Topic: "Learn Bitcoin" is silent when farmed account queries are raised - page 2. (Read 1448 times)

 There are sometimes when people just like to raise dust. The accused individual has stated like you mentioned that he has no interest in defending himself on this matter so why don't you drop it? This won't be the last time that we see cases of farmed accounts or people with questionable behavior so bringing it up here for discussion will not make the person change or make the issue stop so sometimes these threads aren't necessary. Except it's your plan to make some of the users on here bring up their old beefs with the other forum members.

Like the old story, you don't even have any evidence to reopen the case. It's just your assumption because he didn't reply to your messages.

Maybe you should learn how the legal system works, how to reopen old cases, find new evidence/novum. Ah, it seems like I'm talking to a rock, I doubt your brain capacity from the past, present, and future.

So? Continue your assumptions with the logic of perception, and perception is always subjective.

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I do not mean to imply any contradiction to your comments but I think there is far more going on here than what you alluded to. Why would Starbets pick him out to send PMs rather than other members?

Keeping that aside, when it becomes a matter of infiltrating DT either by design, default or unintentionally it becomes a far more serious issue than just having several farmed accounts enrolled in various campaigns. I would go as far as to confidently state that Royse is probably aware of all if not most of the accounts in the naim027 farm by virtue of defending him when literally nobody else did. On top of that Royse is employing him as his sidekick to check spreadsheets and quotas therefore though not conclusive, there is reason to believe they have a strong bond.

Regarding merits ... I can say that jeremypwr often invites me via PM to take part in various contests. I also invite many users, and since such PMs are rhetorical in nature, sending merits is a sign of good ethics... a kind of signal that I saw the PM, and appreciate the invitation, the time spent and the work done. So I wouldn't be surprised if LB received messages from Starbets, and also showed good business ethics by sending merits.

What they chat about in private cannot be proven, yes. But the actions they do, the way they talk, and the things that inspire them can be linked very quickly; at this point, it's a habit that will run in a loop; if they change it after reading this, you can notice that, too.


I am not familiar with naim027's case, but with rabbit, lm, and royse. recently, I made a connection in an AI-generated text thread.

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User: hedgehog1 (Started defending LM when Igebotz gave an overview of gambling posters)


User: lgalga (Newbie giving, or pretending to be giving evidence to Royse "Friend of LittleMouse" [Can easily be checked with their public communication style])
Royse also tried to get Small Rabbit reformed and didn't disclose his info, even when he scammed over 10k USD.
But the reply of Small Rabbit was: He fks DTs on this forum and has another account to manage bounties/campaigns (At this point you can very easily guess who that person might be when you read Mammals comparison at the bottom of this post."
If I remember correctly then Small Rabbit deleted that post, but someone Quoted the archived version on Loyce's Club website.


When Royse got that info of Small Rabbit from lgala or from someone else, then did they disclose it?: No

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Both Little Mouse and Small Rabbit use "Dear" it does prove that they both are from Asian countries

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LittleMouse, RapTarX (connection I made in past): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58168075

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1. Small Rabbit
2. Little Mouse  
3. hedgehog1 (Defending Little Mouse in AI generated content reports, and telling others to give praise to Little Mouse)

Now interesting fact: All three (1,2,3) of these usernames are all Mammals

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Now here (Could be coincidence)

hacker1001101001 joined to protect littlemouse (Just like hedgehog did, awoke after a long inactivity)
Lauda has mentioned on RapTarX's profile

Accounts connected: Little Mouse (UUID = 2344286), RapTarX (UUID = 2530429).
Deception. Multi-accounting. One of two accounts is either farmed up or the result of account trading.
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2530429

Hacker uses the username "hacker1001101001" (Most likely a rushed username, inserting 1001101001 after the username (could be binary too) | Small Rabbit's Telegram username (looks rushed too, for a quick exit scam): @Rabbit2233 (Link)

Now this Small Rabbit's username resembles Chinese/Japanese text characters, but The China blocked Binance in September 2017. So Small Rabbit did it intentionally to hide that he might not be from Bangladesh,
He cannot use Binance to pull this scam when it's banned in his region (Based on his telegram current username, someone else might be operating that username too but it's been inactive for a very long time so chances of being that is Slim). But it proves one thing: Small Rabbit cannot be from China like his current telegram text indicates.

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It's also worth noting these usernames came to the Aid of Small Rabbit after a long period of inactivity in accusation cases against him.

Now that you mention it, I think he was even given access to the Starbets login and even posted using their account for a while (as he was their employee). I think that was mentioned in one of the previous threads related to him.

I like the way you summed this up. For reasons never understood or known, Royse is a long standing supporter and employer of Naim027. He has Naim027 employed to check the spreadsheets and quota count.

One key thing to note is that it was not known which other account (or accounts) he was using before he purchased/hacked his Royse account from the original Russian account creator, but there are suspicions he is from Bangladesh. We know naim027 is from Bangladesh therefore that brotherly bond between the two could based on that.

Not everything can be proven but some of us already connected some of the dots.

I am glad you have mentioned this. If I have time I will try to find the posts you allude to otherwise feel free to send a PM if you do not want to mention it publicly. It was not that long ago he was defending naim027 therefore nothing he does would not surprise me.

You are definitely not the only one who believes "Learn Bitcoin" is one of several farmed accounts belonging to naim027. Thank you for compiling the information in your informative post.

People getting mad isn't a part of drama?
I wanted to pour some chilly oil into this whole dish, but something stopped me, a memory from childhood related to some family member and drugs...

P.S. What will you do if your statements offend people even after your return just because they're on drugs or too emotional? Will you go on another retreat and hope same people won't get offended by what you say?

I am going to put the entire Reputation section on ignore until 2025. The drama hadn't even started yet and I've already had two people get mad at me for suggesting something obvious. So I'll leave the drama for those of you who are in the mood for it.

So, I'm not the only forum member who thinks 'Learn Bitcoin' is the alt of 'naim027'. Looks like none of us found any strong evidences to prove what we think. I had done a little investigation after this post of 'nutildah'.

My investigation was based on the merit sending activity. He had sent a merit to wintomato on the 7th June of 2023. JohnTwice account was created on the same day and started to work as Wintomato representative from the same day. The username of the account is similar to one of the alt account of 'naim027' (John Abraham ~ JohnTwice).

There was another reason to suspect him as 'naim027'. He had sent some merits to StarBets representative account (check). Most of those merits were sent to random posts of StarBets account (not merit worthy post). 'naim027' had the habit of merit transferring in such way. Some alts of 'naim027' had also sent merit to StarBets account. 'decodx' had pointed out some reasons to show that StarBets account was operated by 'naim027'.

Anyway, the promotional related posts were being made within a few minutes gap from both of those casino representative account (Wintomato and StarBets) since 9 June 2023. Which had made me believe that both of those accounts were operated by 'naim027'. And I think 'Learn Bitcoin' is somehow connected to 'naim027' for the above reasons.

Most of the time, when people defend someone in public then, there are the following reasons I have seen:
1. They don't want something to happen to them that has happened to the person they're defending.
2. They're close.
3. They've business deals (Can be shown in private or not, depending on many factors).

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Anyways, there's another person Royse was defending in the past who got accused of scamming a good chunk from bounty (Advice to reform was given, but the guy straight out exited the convo with F**K You attitude), but due to lack of evidence and slippery tactics, the person got away. I have no problem with it; people around me in real life use these tactics more effectively than people here do online.

I have no idea who Naim027 is, but I can say that when I saw this thread I remembered that one of the Starbets employees mentioned this name in the work chat in the context of this user having access to their corporate account. From what I understood from the conversation, he was doing some work for them .. maybe announcements or something like that. I don't have any archives of the chat because it was about two years ago.

Man, Royse777 AB, long time no discussion you and me around here. Is Naim027 still working for you? Yeah well, I wouldn't be surprised if you'd be upset too if I told you that when you go to talk about someone it wouldn't hurt to spend a few seconds of your life visiting their profile.


I couldn't care less.


I am not.


You are confusing me with JG here. I'm not the one who sent Learn Bitcoin a PM and I'm saying it's suspicious that he doesn't respond, the one who is saying that is JG.

I wouldn't respond to nonsense either, that's why you can open a thread about me being an airfinex alt. But I hope you don't show up with a Telegram screenshot, which I haven't even had installed for months.

Agreed. The only way clarity can be ascertained is by asking about it.

I also cannot recall him scamming either but enrolling as many farmed accounts as he could on campaigns in one thing but eventually by default infiltrating (or possibly one day being in a position to infiltrate) DT is a different matter altogether. In the scamming department he might have kept away from controversy but if someone is conducting in form form of nefarious conduct then there is no reason to believe they will not change paths if an opportunity arose.


I would agree in the general sense but when it comes to Naim027 I would try advocate caution because if he infiltrates DT then it is not good for anybody using the forum.

Says the person that congratulated Naim027 for getting the ban lifted. Not only that, also employs him to check spreadsheets and works with him and speaks highly of Naim027  

Maybe knowing how heated things can get here, Learn Bitcoin is trying to avoid the Reputation board for now. I know another member who avoids the reputations board even when his name or suspicions are mentioned but without anything proving the criminating evidence, then I think we should let them be. Silence does not mean someone is guilty.

Looking at this

Potentially, Poker Player can help us point out how he concluded that Learn Bitcoin = naim027. I am one of the members who dealt with him in the past and left him some positive feedback because he was helpful to me, so to some extent I am concerned about this development.

When you leave reasons for annoying then obviously people will be annoyed. Don't expect people to bravo you for nothing.

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You know what I suspect? Poker Player is airfinex (I have a heavy feeling about it but I have no proof).

So, how are you going to handle the accusation?

You can not prove you are not. If you are airfinex then obviously you will not admit it. Which means unless you are stupid, it is wise for you not to response the nonsenses. Both you are JG are nonsense that's why the topic came to this far. 

False.


The questions yes, but not these statements:



I agree on this


No, it's not a big issue but you make me think you've had a few drinks when you're arguing basic stuff with me.

You assume I should remember every douche on this forum is where I have an issue. Regardless of whether I search a guys name and get acquainted with his past, my questions are still valid. Now that Jollygood has reminded me of him, it's a case of plagiarism, nothing more IMO. Still should be banned but not on the top 100 bitcoin scammers ever. So essentially a waste of everyones time to even care about the guy.

It's definitely not worth you or myself going off as IMO he doesn't matter and why we are talking about it still is beyond me. If you have that big an issue, refrain from commenting my name and i'll do the same for you. Pretty simple solution.

False. Unless for you "has decided only his way matters"  is to suggest to someone that when they are going to talk about another person in this section, they should spend a few seconds visiting the other person's profile.

For me you got mad at me because you got annoyed that I told you something obvious that you hadn't done and now it's your emotional part that is responding.

I vaguely remember the Naim guy and the quote of mine stating the mods fucked up, but that doesn't change the fact that just because I comment in a thread I am not allowed to ask questions as to your end game, nor does it make my comment wrong.

I have no issue with this thread and you trying to investigate if someone is connected to someone who should be banned. Let's not forget that the guy was banned for plagiarism which doesn't exactly make him a big bitcointalk scammer, just a lazy douche.

Not sure why Poker Player has decided only his way matters, but it is what it is. Like i said, I deal with thousands of users a year and don't recall everything right off the top of my head in most cases.

Well, he sent a PM effectively stating he does not want to engage therefore it certainly does not look good on his part. If it were about him being linked to a signature spammer working for tainted companies (such as 1xbit etc) then it would be different but he has been connected to a lowest of the low chief manipulator and compulsive liar in Naim 027 yet is happy to not pass comment. Maybe this thread will not achieve much but that is the way things go sometimes.

I understand your position, it really is hard to keep up with all the disgraced names that have been mentioned over the years and though you might not have any recollection of Naim027 and his known farmed accounts, some of us do. Actually, it was not that long ago that he used his farmed accounts creating multiple problems but if most of that was not picked up on your radar (or by other members) then that is something to be expected.

He could possibly have searched for it (and I did link several threads in the OP too) but he and others might not recall. In the case of yahoo62278 he did post at least once about Naim027 but it is understandable sometimes threads and dramas pass do easily people by or they/we cannot recall every instance of that occurs or even remember posting in those threads at the time.