Topic: "Learn Bitcoin" is silent when farmed account queries are raised - page 3. (Read 1448 times)

Man, doesn't this seem a little twisted on your part? It's okay if you don't respond to every accusation against you, but it's a mistake if someone else ignores such things. 
The next thing in this case is to start some discussion that was closed much earlier and I did not see that any new case or evidence was presented about the whole matter. It is quite unclear to me why this topic is here again and what is expected as the final resolution here.

I exchanged a few messages with Learn Bitcoin a couple of times and I did not notice any bad behavior from him. I don't know if it is anyone's alt account, but with the second part here I would agree with Poker Player's statement, currently, LB seems like a correct member of the forum and until proven otherwise, I would not base an opinion about him based on presumption.

Man for 10 years in the forum I say it would not be bad that when they talk about someone in a reputation thread and you are going to respond do something as easy as putting “naim027 bitcointalk” in a search engine and click, it can cost you 10 seconds or less.

In addition to the fact that Naim027's case is quite well known.

I've been on this forum over 10 years and dealt with thousands of users in that 10 years. I don't remember every user unless I had some sort of memorable interaction with them.

Hey yahoo62278, you seem like a broken record. And although you are generally right when you say this you don't seem to know who Naim027 is. Yes, he ban evaded and although he didn't scam I think he is one of the most hated people on the forum. Check out his profile and his 13 red tags.

I think, JollyGood, that you are not going to get very far with this thread as nutildah has also long had suspicions that some particular account is operated by naim027, but he has no proof, and he is surely not the only one.

I think I agree on this.

Many times those that came along to defend themselves in the Reputation thread inadvertently exposed more accounts therefore on that front it probably makes sense for anybody that wants to hide their other farmed accounts to not try to defend themselves. Having said that, as I mentioned earlier by not posting in response does not equate to guilt but speculation will remain.

In the general sense I do not have much of an interest when something such as this happens but when it comes to Naim027 if there is any way to either confirm an account is or is not operated by him, I would take an interest (and the extent of which thus far is to create this thread).

Alt accounts are allowed. If the person in question isn't ban evading or scamming, then let them be IMO. What is your end goal here? To flush out an alt? I think that's where you need to start in your thinking. Are you suspecting them of a bigger picture scam? Does it just bother you and you need to know? I don't like stirring the pot if there is no reason for it is why I ask.

I think the opposite, that he did the best thing for himself by not answering to those accusations because no matter what he says, those who think that account is part of the farm probably wouldn't change the opinion.
And we saw many times those who came and defended themselves just got into more troubles.

Mine are summarized in the neutral feedback and in what I commented in this thread.

I'm sure Learn Bitcoin had at least one forum account before this one, and knows how to get positive feedback and get into DT. I also believe that he is a good forum user with this account, and I reflected that.

I have no strong evidence that this is an alt of Naim027, otherwise I would have red-tagged him. As everyone knows, I have a more precautionary view of the trust system, and I think that even if you do not have irrefutable evidence, if you have a fairly high subjective certainty (in my case 90% or more), you should leave a red tag if you think there is a high risk of trading with that person.

But whether it's an alt account of Naim027 or not, what I see is good behavior and that's what I have to go by. So I hope it stays that way and that's my final feedback.

I also believe that Naim027 has active alts on the forum and that he will eventually learn, if he hasn't already, that it is more profitable to follow the rules than to be an asshole. So unless we find evidence to the contrary, it's not worth wasting a lot of time and energy on this.

A while back a post was made by Poker Player effectively stating he had suspicions that the Learn Bitcoin account was being operated by a known chief manipulator and multiple account operator (naim027). For those that might have no idea of the background to this matter, here is the post in question:


Here are some threads related to naim027:

'John Abraham ≈ naim027' Coincidence or Connection?
Please permaban naim027
an Appeal For naim027. (SOLVED)
Hello World || Welcome back again!

When an accusation is made, there are no set rules how one should address them. In my case, I mostly ignore threads are created in the Reputation board about me and maybe others can do the same if threads are created about them because not responding should not and does not imply guilt. However, I did send a PM to Learn Bitcoin asking him to post a direct response in that thread but he refused.

Here is my point of view on the matter. I think the Learn Bitcoin account has made a mistake by not responding to the comment in the same thread it was made. His subsequent refusal to address it does add to the speculation especially because naim027 was a prolific account farmer and also a compulsive liar that would gladly do whatever it took to line his pockets regardless of the way he did it.

Any genuine member that is assumed/presumed/accused/alluded to being an account operated by naim027 should probably address matter early on or as soon as possible to distance themselves from that name. I brought that post and thread to his attention via PM but the Learn Bitcoin account refused to post in that thread or engage.

Overall, what are the general views within the community on this matter?