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Topic: Leave negative feedback for Yobit spamming? (Read 1095 times)

legendary
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฿uy ฿itcoin
April 22, 2019, 03:32:04 PM
#57
Problem solved, topic will be locked.
legendary
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There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain
<...>Admin solved it with helps from DdmrDdmr (maybe).<...>
Not really. I figure that those banned 129 signature bearers did their share by misrepresenting the brand, and the reports that people rightfully placed, that led to them being investigated and eventually temp-banned, did the rest.

Objectively, that amount of banned users on a single incipient campaign denotes a clear lack of campaign management, and although things built up pretty fast, it should have been foreseen as a possibility and  gateways should have been installed beforehand to campaign participation, further than the mere rank.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 2420
The problem here is, theymos is making money from their activity.
If we ban every shitposter there is and scare people away, there would be 50 active users left in the forum posting relevant stuff.
This is nothing new anyway. I remember it was exactly the same in 2014 and I know it will be exactly same 5 years later. Just leave it to the mods.
Also:
[img width:100]https://i.ibb.co/CJxNd7w/dder.png[/img]
It doesn't look good already. Banning yobit sigs will definitely not make it better.

129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

Wow I didn't expect that one.

He actually did it. I believe this is the first time he mass banned signatures of a significant company. Am I wrong?
legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
Its better to leave spamming issues for moderators where mods will take their decission to take appropriate actions against them. Reporting to moderators is our responsibility if we find spammers activity on forum. So I think same things will be fair for yobit too.
Admin solved it with helps from DdmrDdmr (maybe). DdmrDdmr helped theymos months ago to add dozen of merit sources, so I guess he helped admin again. Singature ban 14 days or 60 days, depends.
copper member
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✅ Need Campaign Manager? TG > @TalkStar675
Its better to leave spamming issues for moderators where mods will take their decission to take appropriate actions against them. Reporting to moderators is our responsibility if we find spammers activity on forum. So I think same things will be fair for yobit too.
sr. member
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Merit: 254
Tontogether | Save Smart & Win Big
Lauda, I am agree with you.

Would you also tell us your arguments without wearing the Fortune Jack Signature ?  Grin

[Double Standards]
Unlike you, mr. Pajeet, I am not required to make a single post. Kiss Double-standards only if you're a shitposting baboon with limited eye sight brain power.



What is your definition of Shit posting ?

A Person with a Negative trust is a shit poster ..

A person with a Yobit Signature is a shit poster  ...

What Else  you have in your Brain Power   Kiss
legendary
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Terminated.
Lauda, I am agree with you.

Would you also tell us your arguments without wearing the Fortune Jack Signature ?  Grin

[Double Standards]
Unlike you, mr. Pajeet, I am not required to make a single post. Kiss Double-standards only if you're a shitposting baboon with limited eye sight brain power.
sr. member
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Tontogether | Save Smart & Win Big
but theymos is too lazy
I agree we need a heavy handed approach here, but I don't think it has anything to do with laziness. If theymos wanted to ban the YoBit campaign and their spammers, I'm sure he would do so. It's more an issue of how far you let individual users' freedom to say what they want (including spamming) encroach on everyone else's ability to actually use the forum.

If it were down to me, I would immediately hand out a 7 day ban to the majority of the YoBit spammers, and disable all signatures which mention YoBit for 7 days. Obviously theymos disagrees.
Which is fallacious stance. Banning all of YoBit ADs does not touch the 'freedom to say anything'. You can say everything you want to without their signature.


Lauda, I am agree with you.

Would you also tell us your arguments without wearing the Fortune Jack Signature ?  Grin

[Double Standards]
legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
When newbies found spamming then they will be nuked by mods,but if they atleast reached Jr.Rank or above then nuke is not possible they might get temporary or perma ban as punishment.
Spam or shitposts only might lead to temp bans, if they don't violate and get the fourth bans, that will be perm bans. Only plagiarism will lead to immediately permbans. I don't see rules on account nukes, in the topic below. So, if forum staffs read my post, please help with links to rule on nuking accounts. Or, if someone knew about it, and had links, please share them here.
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First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban
Source: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/signature-campaign-guidelines-read-this-before-starting-or-joining-a-campaign-1684035
sr. member
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All campaigns that require a certain amount of post each week could be seen as adding more spam  to this forum, Yobit campaign is paying people without the need to reach a certain amount of posts how great is that. They also never said that you should post the max amount of post they are willing to pay and when Yobit did announce the relaunch of the signature they directly added some extra rules to this campaign so they did thought about the problems from the last signature campaign.

It's never good to judge about a whole group of people when some individuals are the main problem, in each campaign you will find rotten apples and if people go to far you have always the forum mods and staff that can kick/block people from joining a specific campaign.



https://yobit.io/en/signature/details/
★☆★ Rules ★☆★

Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign. You don't need to write an essay with each post but one word replies in spammy off topic threads or streams of constant half-assed one liners will immediately get you removed. Please just put some effort in to your posts and you'll be fine.

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

Any user who hasn't made a post in over a month will also be removed.

Enjoy it while it last though. Yobit campaign was known to pay so delayed like more than two weeks. If you read the old threads they have some users are complaining about the funds running out so you have to wait til they put funds for the withdrawals of the participants. They don't scam bounty hunters but will keep you waiting that's the issue awaits.

full member
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TIME TO BAN THE YOBIT SCAM!!
Q: Leave negative feedback for Yobit spamming?

A: Yes, absolutely.

Yobit have been scamming for years, everyone knows that, especially the (tens of?) 100's of users who have been scammed by them. Moderators have already deleted their service thread which was crammed with fake/shill/bumping accounts & they have a multitude of scam accusations against them that Yobit have completely ignored - every single one of them. They are the scourge of both the crypto sphere and this forum.

It is right that scams be tagged & it is also right that those who promote scams should be tagged - Yobit are no different, in fact they are the worse kind of scam, the one that preys on noobs who don't know any better. I have always tagged scams & I will continue to do so, it helps warn others as well as myself that certain members are untrustworthy & unethical.

Yes, MODS have a job to do, but so does the BCT community.
legendary
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🤩Finally Married🤩
Instead of leaving Negative Feedback, Forum Spammers should just be nuked and banned.
I don't think spamming will result in nuking accounts? I have never read such rule on nuking accounts due to spamming. Maybe I missed it. So, can you point it out if there is really a rule on nuking accounts due to spamming, please. Smiley

There are no such rule mate, but I have seen it already somewhere here. To make it short, it depends on the Mods' own discretion whether the user deserves to be nuked.

(And actually its only my idea, and I don't see it as a bad thing, especially if these users are only intended to spam in the first place.) Tongue
hero member
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Cant judge them all on the sig only, stubborn users that are repeatedly breaking the rules and get annoying would be material to distrust/ignore/tag
hero member
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https://www.betcoin.ag

Never have complains about yobit but they are shady for pumping and dumping coins every time. You can read in their chat about which coin are pumping, users are shouting on the chat box. Its hard to prove their involvement but then of course we already know exchanges are doing it. Who knows what Binance are doing before they got their current status.  So lets all be fair to all. If you leave red to those yobit signature campaign bounty hunters, you might just give negative to those who suggest use binance.
hero member
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Bitcoin = Financial freedom
Instead of leaving Negative Feedback, Forum Spammers should just be nuked and banned.
I don't think spamming will result in nuking accounts? I have never read such rule on nuking accounts due to spamming. Maybe I missed it. So, can you point it out if there is really a rule on nuking accounts due to spamming, please. Smiley
When newbies found spamming then they will be nuked by mods,but if they atleast reached Jr.Rank or above then nuke is not possible they might get temporary or perma ban as punishment.
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 3858
Farewell o_e_l_e_o
Instead of leaving Negative Feedback, Forum Spammers should just be nuked and banned.
I don't think spamming will result in nuking accounts? I have never read such rule on nuking accounts due to spamming. Maybe I missed it. So, can you point it out if there is really a rule on nuking accounts due to spamming, please. Smiley
legendary
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Merit: 1165
🤩Finally Married🤩
Instead of leaving Negative Feedback, Forum Spammers should just be nuked and banned.

As of now, I have abused the "Report to the Moderator" Button and reported mostly Yobit Participants who made Post Bursting and spamming every Sections especially the Yobit Signature Campaign Thread in Service Section.

More will be reported, as long as I can see non sense replies and feedbacks. With this I can make a Report for about a hundred in just a day!  (This really killing my time, good for me for I'm at the Recovery Phase herein the hospital Cheesy -  for I have something to do while in bed)
legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o

It is inappropriately to call Yobit as a scam exchange, at least so far.
I think I've voiced my opinion enough times on this matter, so I won't get into my opinion about whether their new campaign is a good idea or good for the forum.  Well, at least not extensively.

But I've always said I missed Yobit's campaign after I quit it and when it subsequently ended.  As far as signature campaigns go, it was fantastic and was the first one I ever joined after being a member here for about 9 months if I recall correctly.  There were never any problems with payouts, and you didn't have to wait a week to get paid--they pay out within hours.  The only lousy thing about it was that your payment went directly into your Yobit account, which you were obliged to have, and if you wanted to withdraw your funds there was a fee.  I recall it being pretty steep and I often converted bitcoin into an altcoin that had a lower withdrawal fee.

Yobit's bitcointalk account is painted red, and I'm sure it deserves it, but I just can't wrap my head around Yobit being a scam exchange overall.  For me they've always done everything I've expected of them.  Every trade I've done was without issue and I never had any trouble withdrawing my funds. 

That said, I don't doubt others who say they've had trouble with Yobit.  I think the major problem with them is their customer service.  They just don't resolve issues quickly or at all.  I think of Yobit as more of an exchange that's run very poorly but one that isn't truly a scam service.

Anyway, we'll see how this all plays out.  I'm definitely noticing a lot of shitposting by members wearing the Yobit sig, and that's not good.
hero member
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https://www.betcoin.ag
if you do that,why wouldnt you remove signatures instead for more convenience? simple as that.

The forum has a net-gain with paid signatures being allowed (spam is an 'acceptable consequence' of it). Removing signatures means a decent part of the forum's activity drops as "only-here-for-the-pay" members leave. We should try it though.

No-sig September, anyone?

In September, the forum would be dead as well. Believe it or not, we have a good thing going on in the forum. The best thing that a forum could ever happen. If you have been on the internet for quite awhile you must have heard of Digitalpoint Websmaters forum, they also allow signatures to be rented before 2010. Digitalpoint was a very busy forum until they disallow renting. Now they are dead.

Theymos hired mods and staff. Let them handle all these. Just walk care free in the forum.
legendary
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be constructive or S.T.F.U
You all enjoy the forum for free, but as adults you should have probably learned that nothing comes for free, the forum needs traffic,  shitposters provide that, so everytime you run into a shitpost from a Yobit member consider it forum fees.

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