Topic: Leave negative feedback for Yobit spamming? - page 2. (Read 1095 times)

Good riddance.

The forum has a net-gain with paid signatures being allowed (spam is an 'acceptable consequence' of it). Removing signatures means a decent part of the forum's activity drops as "only-here-for-the-pay" members leave. We should try it though.

No-sig September, anyone?

 if you do that,why wouldnt you remove signatures instead for more convenience? simple as that.

This makes 0 sense, the downfall of the forum is related to the downfall of the market.


Also after the bump of the last month.

It does not as Yobit would be allowed to have an ANN thread like any other service. Signature AD ban =/= service ban.

To be fair banning their signatures will be a little bit unethical from this forum because it automatically means theymos and whole administration rejects yobit service and let other scam services to run here.
I think tagging only shitposter will be fair, if yobit still wants red tagged people, then ban can be a deal.
Seems they don't care about forum, don't wanted to say here again but this company is very shady and it has no limit.

The problem here is, theymos is making money from their activity.

If we ban every shitposter there is and scare people away, there would be 50 active users left in the forum posting relevant stuff.

This is nothing new anyway. I remember it was exactly the same in 2014 and I know it will be exactly same 5 years later. Just leave it to the mods.

Also:


It doesn't look good already. Banning yobit sigs will definitely not make it better.

This would make the much feared red tags so common in the forum and it would make them lose their credibility.
Imagine if red tags became a common thing in  the forum and people no longer cared about getting them. Scammers would just swarm in like never before with no limits.

I think we should be careful with the Negative trust thing and should only apply it when it's appropriate and very necessary.

Which is fallacious stance. Banning all of YoBit ADs does not touch the 'freedom to say anything'. You can say everything you want to without their signature.

Afaik, tagging at trust-feedback only for users who broke the trust rules (in general behavior): what happened, who is he/her, and how it happens; especially for trading, monetary and security system. And DT members work in this area.

For the user who broke some forum rules. I think it's clear enough that users should get sanction/punishment, terma/permaban from the forum. And this is moderator should do so.

I agree we need a heavy handed approach here, but I don't think it has anything to do with laziness. If theymos wanted to ban the YoBit campaign and their spammers, I'm sure he would do so. It's more an issue of how far you let individual users' freedom to say what they want (including spamming) encroach on everyone else's ability to actually use the forum.

If it were down to me, I would immediately hand out a 7 day ban to the majority of the YoBit spammers, and disable all signatures which mention YoBit for 7 days. Obviously theymos disagrees.

Leaving this to the moderators has never worked before. Why exactly would anyone argue for this? It will not work again, stop drinking kool-aid. This warrants the nuclear option (kill all yobit ads of any kind), but theymos is too lazy.

Well the catch is...I've had some neg trust in the UNTRUSTED area...on yobit

as sketchy as this exchange is...I think all exchanges are such..just never leave coin or $$$ in them and you are golden...if you do leave coin

or $$$ in them you can be screwed even by legit exchanges that get hacked like http://www.cryptopia.co.nz/ which I missed that bullet by being 'exchange paranoid'

but none of that effects my overall trust rating (so far)...22+

thus it is kinda a moot issue unless somebody with the multi-BTC deals that gave me positive feedback

back in the early days of 2013-2016...is suddenly offended..(for the crapload of $150 USD BTC I gave them for a somewhat

dubious USB miners back in the day...I doubt they have any issues with that at this late date!)

I doubt it is gonna affect anything.

IF the moderators suddenly don't want that tag line under my avatar...well then it is gone....and I would guess yobit would have to adjust to such as well or everyone would leave.

The last point, I have turned DOWN campaigns which pay more than yobit due to the fact ALL OTHER campaigns I've tripped over...recently only open ones since Jan 2019 all

require you to CHANGE your avatar to their corp avatar Ad. (sorry like my hat..so I resisted that much).

So at least they are the only open campaign I've seen that leaves the avatar alone these days.

Just saying. Not that I know squat. But my 'justification' (barring any other drama of an evil nature from yobit) on why I went 'meh' and stuck the sig campaign on

brad

When some accounts just woke up to post for Yobit ,then it simply means they are financially motivated. Few of the spammer are already earning in this campaign.  Feel free to read [FABLE] The Resurrection of YoBit and tell me how many of the spammers are now thrown out of Yobit campaign for spamming .

Yesterday I checked some of those accounts for alts and it seems that shimbark123 (summoned after six months of deep sleep) has one. - hyunee, currently participating in another spammy campaign. All three accounts (including banned - robbietobby) write regularly in the Pilipinas local board. Coincidence?

By the way here is what theymos got say during the default trust changes that happened in the forum recently, and I think all DT members concerned about the spam created by the campaign (or for any other campaign in that matter) should take a note about this.


We should remember that the the quality of post or the sense of the post in relation of the topic does not relate to the member's “trusworthiness” in the forum like what theymos has said. All we can do now is either continue what were doing in the Meta now (complain/report about something or help the moderator eliminate spam (and therefore eliminating their post count which will hopefully change their post quality) by using the “report to moderator” function

Oops! It seems that the eagerness to hunt those Yobit spammers lead us to another issue.

Hmm, in my opinion every member who proven guilty of spamming should be reported whether he wear a Yobit signature or other signatures or even not wearing at all. There should be no exception upon the law.

So if you found a spammer based on your own judgement then report it as long as it is reasonable, and after that let the mods decide for the final verdict. But if there's an emotional attachment for every time you report then I might say that's not healthy at all because you become bias without noticing it. Better to stop it because you are getting toxic. (Just a friendly reminder for Yobit campaign antagonists)

All campaigns that require a certain amount of post each week could be seen as adding more spam  to this forum, Yobit campaign is paying people without the need to reach a certain amount of posts how great is that. They also never said that you should post the max amount of post they are willing to pay and when Yobit did announce the relaunch of the signature they directly added some extra rules to this campaign so they did thought about the problems from the last signature campaign.

It's never good to judge about a whole group of people when some individuals are the main problem, in each campaign you will find rotten apples and if people go to far you have always the forum mods and staff that can kick/block people from joining a specific campaign.



https://yobit.io/en/signature/details/
★☆★ Rules ★☆★

Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign. You don't need to write an essay with each post but one word replies in spammy off topic threads or streams of constant half-assed one liners will immediately get you removed. Please just put some effort in to your posts and you'll be fine.

Users with negative feedback from defaulttrust members are no longer permitted on the campaign. If you sign up you will be removed.

Any user who hasn't made a post in over a month will also be removed.

Even most of the DT members says it is not appropriate to tag spammer because DT system is not meant for spammers.

If you find spammers just use Report to Moderator button which is the right thing if we want to clear spams.If we tag spammers then most of the bounty participants were spammers so we are going to tag them all?

I am not in favor of tagging spammers too. Same reason, it wasn't meant for that.

We should rather encourage members to report each spam post they see. It would be hard as we can't please everybody, but it will be good for the forum if ever. You are worried about mods being unable to handle the reports, it seems like they can still handle them atm. When the time comes that they can't I think theymos will make a way.