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legendary
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August 04, 2018, 07:32:10 AM
#38
bitcoin cash is on same address not on same seed.

So i create 24 word phrase,send bitcoin and i see balance, after few months i login again with same seed and i see balance,after this come new update and bitcoin cash fork,I did not tried update softweare few months because i didnt have access to ledger because i was in another country.After some time new update comes again and after few months i tried to update firmware(december) but with no success. I tried around 30 times from time to time but i was unable to update software.I tried everything what i find on internet about and i talked with support few times without solution.They just talking again same and same thing in loops which never worked.I am angry ,i cant access to my wallet.Finnaly come new Live app and after few attempts i have success to update software,But when i login i see not same address and 0 balance.Im deeply convinced that i lose my coins because ledger nano s bug.I don have any other explanation what could happen.Only think what can be possible if i create separate new seed with same 24 words in the same order,but i think this is not possible.

Now you say your BCH is not on address created by same seed, so how can that be true if BCH&BTC are allegedly share the same address? One seed is generated both address, so you should see balance for both coins.

Seed is only thing which is important for your problem, even if device does not work properly there are ways you can restore your coins/private keys. So if you import correct seed in Electrum wallet and select derivation path for Legacy or Segwit your BTC should be shown there.

Ledger support it's not something you can rely on, I have experience with them and you can get more help just by surfing on their website or ask for help on this forum.

We give you many advice, try to read them from start - maybe you missed something. What I would do in your place is reseting device and make new firmware update, the possibility exists that the firmware is maybe corrupted. You should also remove all Ledger Apps from Chrome and make fresh install from Ledger site.
jr. member
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August 04, 2018, 06:52:39 AM
#37
bitcoin cash is on same address not on same seed.

So i create 24 word phrase,send bitcoin and i see balance, after few months i login again with same seed and i see balance,after this come new update and bitcoin cash fork,I did not tried update softweare few months because i didnt have access to ledger because i was in another country.After some time new update comes again and after few months i tried to update firmware(december) but with no success. I tried around 30 times from time to time but i was unable to update software.I tried everything what i find on internet about and i talked with support few times without solution.They just talking again same and same thing in loops which never worked.I am angry ,i cant access to my wallet.Finnaly come new Live app and after few attempts i have success to update software,But when i login i see not same address and 0 balance.Im deeply convinced that i lose my coins because ledger nano s bug.I don have any other explanation what could happen.Only think what can be possible if i create separate new seed with same 24 words in the same order,but i think this is not possible.
legendary
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August 04, 2018, 04:26:43 AM
#36
bitcoin Legacy,segwit
bitcoin cash main,separate

there is no address anywhere, i have same amount of bitcoin cash on address

So you've managed to connect your Ledger and Ledger Wallet Bitcoin Chrome App, you check address in "Sign Message" option and that address is not shown even there+it is not shown with iancoleman tool also. The conclusion is that the address on which your bitcoin is located is not generated by seed you are using. However it is strange that you see your BitcoinCash coins with the same seed...

Maybe the problem is that you have more than one account related to Bitcoin and you need to learn how to manage those accounts. I will post link to that content, just take time and read step by step : Manage multiple Bitcoin accounts
jr. member
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August 03, 2018, 11:58:04 PM
#35
bitcoin Legacy,segwit
bitcoin cash main,separate

there is no address anywhere, i have same amount of bitcoin cash on address
jr. member
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August 03, 2018, 11:32:20 PM
#34
Ok... so was your address a "1"-type address (ie. Legacy)... or a "3"-type address (ie. SegWit)?

What "Current Chain" is shown in Ledger Wallet Bitcoin chrome app when you connect?

In app is Legacy.. i will login again now and see what about segwit
HCP
legendary
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August 03, 2018, 11:14:12 PM
#33
Ok... so was your address a "1"-type address (ie. Legacy)... or a "3"-type address (ie. SegWit)?

What "Current Chain" is shown in Ledger Wallet Bitcoin chrome app when you connect?
jr. member
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August 03, 2018, 11:03:17 PM
#32

I have 24 words seed and is same seed where i have access before firmware update and seen my balance on ledger
HCP
legendary
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August 03, 2018, 10:53:07 PM
#31
no address in sign message .. i dont have logic explanation..
The logical explanation is that you have restored the wrong 24 word seed mnemonic on your Ledger when you set it up after updating the firmware.


Is possible that I lose coins because ledger bug?I Tried update firmware 20-30 times with no success few months,from autumn 2017 till now when ledger live go out,Is there anything if its an address legacy or segwit? coins were on ledger before bitcoin cash fork
Or maybe i create same 24 word seed from scratch?
Is the address the coins are in a "1-type" address? or a "3-type" address? If it is 1... then you have legacy addresses, and you need to ensure that you are still using the legacy chain in your Ledger Wallet Bitcoin... it should show like this:



However, if you have a "3-type" address... then you have a SegWit address, and you need to ensure that you are using the SegWit chain in your Ledger Wallet Bitcoin... it should show like this:



To change from Legacy to SegWit... or SegWit to Legacy... Click Settings:



Then click "Blockchains":



Then click "Bitcoin":



Then select either "Legacy" (or "Segwit"), depending on which one you want:

jr. member
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August 03, 2018, 04:09:50 PM
#30
Is possible that I lose coins because ledger bug?I Tried update firmware 20-30 times with no success few months,from autumn 2017 till now when ledger live go out,Is there anything if its an address legacy or segwit? coins were on ledger before bitcoin cash fork
Or maybe i create same 24 word seed from scratch?
jr. member
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August 03, 2018, 03:19:07 PM
#29
no address in sign message .. i dont have logic explanation.. i am sure that i log in with this address before firmware update and i see balance
I dont understand why i lose coins
HCP
legendary
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August 03, 2018, 05:57:40 AM
#28
You use OS ( operating system ), but not Windows - so we need to guess which one you use, maybe MAC or Linux - something else?
Most likely he meant "OSX"...

when i connect device and type pin nothing happen
After you type PIN, you have to also select the Bitcoin app on the ledger device, press both buttons and it should display the "use wallet to view accounts" message... Then the chrome app should connect


legendary
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August 03, 2018, 04:58:32 AM
#27
Odd that the Manager picks it up but the BTC wallet one won't... Possibly a weird driver glitch... but that would usually mean that you can't use the Manager either.

Have you tried using the Manager to uninstall all the apps from the device... and then re-add the Bitcoin coin app on the device?  Or maybe try and uninstall and reinstall the Ledger Wallet Bitcoin chrome app?

In post number 6 I suggested to him to uninstall apps from Chrome, sometimes new firmware and old apps create problems. The OP seems to have serious problems with basics, as you say it is not possible that Ledger Manager is connecting and Ledger Bitcoin Wallet not...


I use OS not windows,no sounds,was thinking that I need check singed message through ledger bitcoin wallet extension for chrome not the app inside manager...

You use OS ( operating system ), but not Windows - so we need to guess which one you use, maybe MAC or Linux - something else?
jr. member
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August 03, 2018, 03:39:50 AM
#26
when i use manager app i can connect ledger,but when i use bitcoin app nothing...
the app did not recognize that I connected the device

Do you hear the standard windows connection-sound when you connect your nano s with:
1) the ledger manager open and
2) the chrome wallet open ?

Do you hear the sound in 1) AND 2) ?
Or do you hear the sound only in 1) ? Or do you never hear such a sound ?




I use OS not windows,no sounds,was thinking that I need check singed message through ledger bitcoin wallet extension for chrome not the app inside manager...
when i connect device and type pin nothing happen
legendary
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August 03, 2018, 12:37:24 AM
#25
when i use manager app i can connect ledger,but when i use bitcoin app nothing...
the app did not recognize that I connected the device

Do you hear the standard windows connection-sound when you connect your nano s with:
1) the ledger manager open and
2) the chrome wallet open ?

Do you hear the sound in 1) AND 2) ?
Or do you hear the sound only in 1) ? Or do you never hear such a sound ?

HCP
legendary
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August 03, 2018, 12:21:51 AM
#24
Odd that the Manager picks it up but the BTC wallet one won't... Possibly a weird driver glitch... but that would usually mean that you can't use the Manager either.

Have you tried using the Manager to uninstall all the apps from the device... and then re-add the Bitcoin coin app on the device?  Or maybe try and uninstall and reinstall the Ledger Wallet Bitcoin chrome app?
jr. member
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August 03, 2018, 12:04:42 AM
#23
yes i see your advice but my ledger can not connect to chrome app.. only live and manager app but not btc app
What error are you getting with the BTC app? Is it not connecting? Does it not unlock when you enter your PIN and select btc coin app on the device? Huh

Seems odd that you can connect with the Ledger Manager chrome app, but not the BTC one Huh

yes this is correct
jr. member
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August 03, 2018, 12:03:48 AM
#22
yes i see your advice but my ledger can not connect to chrome app.. only live and manager app but not btc app


What about the following statement then ?

I can access bitcoin ledger wallet via chrome app


Why / How did you lose the possibility of accessing your wallet via the chrome app  Huh
This doesn't make much sense  Huh

when i use manager app i can connect ledger,but when i use bitcoin app nothing...
the app did not recognize that I connected the device
HCP
legendary
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August 02, 2018, 03:54:40 PM
#21
yes i see your advice but my ledger can not connect to chrome app.. only live and manager app but not btc app
What error are you getting with the BTC app? Is it not connecting? Does it not unlock when you enter your PIN and select btc coin app on the device? Huh

Seems odd that you can connect with the Ledger Manager chrome app, but not the BTC one Huh
legendary
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August 02, 2018, 10:12:59 AM
#20
yes i see your advice but my ledger can not connect to chrome app.. only live and manager app but not btc app


What about the following statement then ?

I can access bitcoin ledger wallet via chrome app


Why / How did you lose the possibility of accessing your wallet via the chrome app  Huh
This doesn't make much sense  Huh
jr. member
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August 02, 2018, 10:03:21 AM
#19
I tried iancoleman and  did not see address in first 200 rows ,external or internal... do i have any other options?


The simpliest way to check whether your address belongs to your ledger has already been posted twice..


  • In the Ledger Chrome App... click on "Settings -> Tools -> Sign Message"

    See if the address that has your BTC is displayed. If it isn't, click on the address... it'll open a search box. Start typing the first three or four characters of the BTC address and see if the whole address is shown in the list. If it is, then the address is definitely part of your Ledger Wallet and you have the correct seed.
  • If you are using the chrome application, go to the settings and choose 'Sign message'. Then start entering this address in the drop down menu. It should appear there.
    If it appears, the private key associated to this address is part of your ledger. If not, unfortunately it is not.

Please do this first to verify this address has REALLY been generated by your nano s.


yes i see your advice but my ledger can not connect to chrome app.. only live and manager app but not btc app
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