Topic: Ledger Nano S Vs Trezor (Read 440 times)

Yeah, I actually find it a bit disingenuous of all hardware wallet manufacturers to list 1000+ coins/tokens/assets. Once you support Ethereum, then you can just add every single new shitcoin/ICO that is created as another number to your tally.

I would also much rather Ledger worked on full bitcoin functionality with things like native SegWit support and UTXO selection in Ledger Live, rather than just supporting more and more useless alts that 99% of users don't care about. Ledger Live is a really nice interface, but Electrum still works better.

Additionally... most of these "coins" are actually just ERC-20 tokens. I would think that adding new ones is relatively trivial after initially implementing ERC-20 support.

However, I do note that Ledger actually refer to the items in their list as "assets" rather than coins and/or tokens... whereas Trezor uses "Coins & Tokens".

Number of supported coins in Ledger is 1185, and in Trezor is 1071, so Ledger is have a small advantage for that matter. To me this number is not something which is too important, but I understand that some users literally counts each coin before they decide to buy hardware wallet.

What is more important when comparing hardware wallets is general support and price. Most users have never heard for most of the supported coins, and they will probably never use it.

What I don't like about the Trezor is that they created a new hardware device with support for coins the previous version lacked, whereas Nano Ledger is more versatile and, it seems, more backwards compatible when you upgrade. Lots of bitcoin maximalists like the Trezor, but for those who like alts I think the Ledger Nano is better.

Just because I want (and any other user probably ), to have some recognizable address, in my case it was for signature campaign. It did not occur to me that address which is part of the wallet will not be checked by Ledger app.

Regarding support, it is certainly not at the level where it should be considering the seriousness of the company. They produce and sell hardware cryptocurrency wallets, not children's toys or cutlery.


https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006554854-How-to-contact-us

It would be nice to have 24 hours support, and not only 5 days in week. But I must admit that I first time see option for live chat, however it seems that it is not working at weekends.

Maybe Ledger is not make smart move with no support for Windows 7, this will for sure take a portion of the users on Trezor side. They should provide support for this OS at least until Microsoft provides support for the same.

BitCryptex, I know Trezor support W7, it is one advantage they have at this time, and they show it is possible to do that without any problems for company or users. Thanks for info regarding Telegram support

According to the wiki, Trezor devices are compatible with Windows 7 so there shouldn't be any major problems. Trezor support acts quickly. You can even contact its team on the Telegram.

Yeah, it seemed like there were a LOT of users that used that "sign message" option to get a Bitcoin address to send out as a receive address?!? I'm still not sure why people would do that and not simply click "receive"?

In addition, it really didn't help that the addresses in that dropdown box were order "alphabetically" rather than in actual address index order (as per derivation path)... this often lead to users getting an address that was a change address (as in this case) or out past the gap limit on other wallets etc


Dropping support for older operating systems is always a contentious issue... a lot of companies seem to underestimate how many users are actually still running really old operating systems on really old hardware. Still, the reality always seems to be that the majority of people can and do upgrade... but of course you don't hear about it, because they don't complain. You only ever see complaints from the (very) vocal minority who don't/can't upgrade


I'm happy with my Nano S (aside from the current issue with the ETH app hogging the limited memory)... and I'm happy with my Trezor ONE. Honestly, at the end of the day, I'd happily recommend either.

It may be best to start from the beginning when I buy Nano S, it was a new toy and like many others I explore all options in Ledger Bitcoin App / Manager. We all like some unique coin addresses, and I find option for sign message in Bitcon App with many addresses, pick one and use it for receive payment. What I did know at that time is that this address is change address, and that Ledger will not check that address - so my transaction history never show that transaction, nor did the balance increase for the amount received. I sort it out with help of user HCP and Electrum. Then for the first time I see how bad is Ledger support, they had no idea how to solve this problem and they are probably in same situation today.

Then firmware updates are come, and this was a one big mess, especially for those on Windows 7 (Ledger still support it at that time). It take hours to update, and I do not need to mention that I was thinking Nano S is bricked. Ledger also in some way disappointed many users with latest firmware ( less apps in same time), but they also make something (at least in my case), with this firmware which is crushing Ledger Live on Windows 7. Do you know what Ledger support say to me? To try with Windows 10, as if I did not even know it myself...

It is possible that Trezor also has similar problems, but I did not notice that it was so pronounced, at least on this forum. I have an impression that I would have better experience if I buy Trezor instead Ledger, but that's just my personal opinion.

The primary objective of any hardware wallet is to protect private keys, and for now there is no problem with that. However, a user experience is also important, and my with Ledger is not so good.

Can you go into more details what exactly you don't like about the Ledger?
I have been using one also for some time and honestly haven't had any issues yet. Hopefully it will stay that way. 

I think trezor vs ledger compare is not suitable because are 1 phase both same as flash .
A wallet for crypto currency must be give feeling powerfull without 3rd-party platform.
If company focuse on historical wallet have been successful to mind people .

I wouldn't trust Ledger after what they had done to Ledger Blue. Trezor is constantly updating their first model and it's even going to get a completely new software, ported from Trezor T which means that some of its coins will also become available on the older model.


The same applies to Trezor. Security holes are constantly being found in hardware devices. Most of them require the attacker to have a physical access to the device. Yesterday, Trezor released a security update.

You can buy Ledger too if you want while the price is getting a big discount because they release new hardware.

I prefer to use Ledger than Trezor because I don't know more about Trezor and I have one Ledger S Nano to save my coins in that wallet.

But I heard about the news that says people who have Ledger needs to update the software because it's risky and has a hole, but I don't update it yet. Maybe later I will download the software first.

There are other ways to use Nano S, and I use Electrum for bitcoin because I got used to that user interface from time I use Electrum as desktop wallet. I never try to use other forked Electrum versions for Dash, Litecoin or Electron Cash for BCH, but I guess they have support for this HW. It is much better to have most of supported coins in one UI, or at least the most important ones. Time for Windows 7 slowly passing, but many still use this OS, so it is perhaps a bad decision from Ledger to stop support for this OS.


You're welcome, but consider that I am not user of Trezor, only at this point seems to be a better option in my opinion. Ledger has become a bit messy lately, but some may say this is nothing new for them. Maybe I'm wrong, but there is a lot more problems associated with Ledger then Trezor, only if you look at the information in this forum.

Thanks for sharing your feedback on Ledger. This is very helpful since feedback is coming from a Ledger user himself. Appreciate it.

Man you are making it difficult for me to decide LOL but thaks as well for that input and its noted.

Bear in mind there are other ways to use a Ledger Nano on Windows 7. You don't have to use Ledger Live, which as Lucius pointed out, is largely broken on Windows 7 following the most recent updates. Using a Ledger device to unlock an Electrum wallet is also a particularly popular setup.

If you ask about Ledger Nano S, there is no problem with Windows 10, this OS is officially supported by Ledger :


I use it on my Windows 7 until recently without problems, but after update to 1.5.5 firmware, Ledger Live (all versions) are not working. On the other hand Trezor is supporting Windows 7 :

---

If you have in plan to use Ledger or Trezor on Windows 10, they will work fine, you do not have to worry about it. It is up to you to decide what HW to buy, but as Ledger user I can only say that I am not too happy with them, and I seriously consider to buy Trezor.

This is the reason why I am thinking of getting Trezor there are blogs that I read stating that the number of Coins they are supporting is almost the same. The only difference is the type of Coin.

Now that you mentioned it, I am currently using Windows 10 on my laptop and Windows 7 Ultimate on my desktop, any idea if it will work with Windows 10 without encountering any problem? I am still torn between Ledger and Trezor.

Maybe one, but for some users important advantage is that Trezor is officially supported Windows 7, and Ledger is not. The fact is that many users still use Windows 7, it will have support from Microsoft until the beginning of the next year.

I recently updated Nano S to latest firmware 1.5.5, and after that Ledger Live is not working on my Windows 7. It start, but after 1-2 minutes it just crush. I try with older versions of Ledger Live, but situation is same. Before I update to 1.5.5 there is no problem, so there is something in latest 1.5.5 firmware what causes Ledger Live to not work properly.

I've got both. 

Personal preference won't count for much if one of them doesn't support the coin you need, but I much prefer the Trezor.

It feels friendlier to use and I prefer the openness of the developers to problems and upgrades. Ledger are snooty fuckers.

Nice info, but you need to post a proper source, so you won't to be accused in plagiarism.
I see that you are support of the website you are promoting and copying info from, but here are some strict rules regarding plagiarism. Quote the info properly.

BTW we have a Hardware Wallets section now