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Quote from: Lethn on October 12, 2014, 12:46:57 AM

that is not Anarchism, stop trying to pretend it is

Where did I say it was? Anarchism has only come in with your last two posts, I never mentioned it.

You asked for a historical example of what I was saying.

Stop attributing things you think to what I say.

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Feudalism is a grouping of legal and military customs, prevalent in medieval Europe, which flourished between the 9th and 15th centuries, or any similar grouping of legal and military customs. Simply defined, it was a system for structuring society around relationships derived from the holding of land in exchange for service or labour.

In Feudalism lords would give land over to people who would swear loyalty to them, that is not Anarchism, stop trying to pretend it is, nevermind the fact that the system you're describing has a completely different word associated with it which you chose to ignore as well.

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Quote from: Lethn on October 12, 2014, 12:42:32 AM

Feudalism is something else entirely and is based on an Aristocracy ruling over a region

No it's not. READ the link, it is in the first paragraph.

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Feudalism is not Anarchism, as I thought, people who complain about Anarchism don't even seem to know what it actually is, Feudalism is something else entirely and is based on an Aristocracy ruling over a region which completely goes against what Anarchism is.

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even assuming that society had to "break down" in the first place (which it most certainly does not, it can simply evolve).

Society did not break down, the government did. It is a direct historical case of what was asked for, and I only quoted one example. Many cultures have gone through the exact same thing with the exact same results, click on the links, read about them.

As to if it would happen again the tenth or whatever time around, who knows, but the odds are good.

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Quote from: Mike Christ on October 12, 2014, 12:26:04 AM

Hitler and Free Market are analogous...

Never heard of hyperbole?

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Quote from: Lethn on October 12, 2014, 12:21:52 AM

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It has been tried, it does not work. Those times froze human progress for close to 600 years.

You said it has been tried and it froze human progress, surely you have actual examples of what you claim?

I get you now, you should have quoted that bit Wink

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Around about the 8-9th century governments broke down and everyone had to fend for themselves and their neighbors, a system call feudalism;-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism

It lead to what we call the Dark Ages that in many ways everything went backwards (science, literature, all the good stuff);-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)

It ended somewhere in the 14th to 15th century in a period called "The Renaissance" when the city states expanded back into countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Renaissance

I am surprised you dont know this stuff.

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I'm not saying you should never argue, but when you argue with a guy who thinks Hitler and Free Market are analogous...

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It has been tried, it does not work. Those times froze human progress for close to 600 years.

You said it has been tried and it froze human progress, surely you have actual examples of what you claim?

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Quote from: Lethn on October 12, 2014, 12:02:13 AM

LOL! I asked you to post some historical examples and you call me a dumbass? Genius way to avoid the question Tongue

I wasn't talking about currencies either.

You lost me sorry, your argument is getting fragmented and I suspect I need to be inside your head to understand it.

You want historical examples of what?

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LOL! I asked you to post some historical examples and you call me a dumbass? Genius way to avoid the question Tongue

I wasn't talking about currencies either.

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Quote from: Lethn on October 11, 2014, 11:54:14 PM

....... -_-

Post some examples, but I bet you're going to inevitably end up with something that had some kind of cruel Authoritarian regime that you love so much keeping everybody in the dark ages and just don't acknowledge that they did it.

Your a dumbass but OK, here is a start, fix your government by taking away their ability to manipulate your currency;-

https://bitcoin.org/

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I am fixing it.

Good, so am I. Careful you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater!

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....... -_-

Post some examples, but I bet you're going to inevitably end up with something that had some kind of cruel Authoritarian regime that you love so much keeping everybody in the dark ages and just don't acknowledge that they did it.

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Quote from: Lethn on October 11, 2014, 11:48:11 PM

Do I really have to go through something that blatantly obvious or are you that unimaginative and stupid?

. Negotiate with farmer

. Pool money or get people to donate materials/mine it themselves

Don't you learn from history, perhaps I am not the stupid one.

It has been tried, it does not work. Those times froze human progress for close to 600 years.

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Quote from: MineForeman.com on October 11, 2014, 11:45:22 PM

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theory you could build a road just by laying it out and spraying water on the thing depending on how it was applied.

Where would you build that road? Through whose farm? Who will pay for it?

Do I really have to go through something that blatantly obvious or are you that unimaginative and stupid?

. Negotiate with farmer

. Pool money or get people to donate materials/mine it themselves

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There is nothing wrong with business. Businesses can only grow so big when the market is free and competition can flourish. It only gets messy when business and government combine to form corporatism, effectively outlawing competition in the marketplace.

I get it, I really do. Your government is fucked, so are your big business.

Why not fix it instead of going back to feudal times. That was a horrible point in history, let's not go there again.

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Quote from: Lethn on October 11, 2014, 11:42:42 PM

theory you could build a road just by laying it out and spraying water on the thing depending on how it was applied.

Where would you build that road? Through whose farm? Who will pay for it?

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*facepalm*

Okay, first the machines make it possible to build machines needed for modern civilisation that can build stuff without a huge amount of cost and relying on a government, the technology of the concrete cloth means in theory you could build a road just by laying it out and spraying water on the thing depending on how it was applied.

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Quote from: Lethn on October 11, 2014, 11:27:58 PM

http://opensourceecology.org/

http://opensourceecology.org/gvcs/gvcs-machine-index/#prettyPhoto

This guy just so happens to be posting open source blueprints for machines that can be built with nothing more than a welder and scrap metal.

Oh and I almost forgot about this:

http://dornob.com/just-add-water-concrete-buildings-built-with-air-h2o/

Not getting your point, they are technologies and ideals, they are not going to build roads for you.

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