Topic: lefties righties - page 3. (Read 4292 times)

So, the big business option for you then?

http://opensourceecology.org/

http://opensourceecology.org/gvcs/gvcs-machine-index/#prettyPhoto

This guy just so happens to be posting open source blueprints for machines that can be built with nothing more than a welder and scrap metal.

Oh and I almost forgot about this:

http://dornob.com/just-add-water-concrete-buildings-built-with-air-h2o/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv3SII568v0

Who then?  Big business or people with picks an shovels.

Nice rebuttal.

Not everybody is a selfish or bitter asshole like you which is what I think when you make statements like that about other people.

Sure you don't need them to do it but if you seriously believe that the people will go out with picks and shovels and build them you're deluded.

What you might get is "Mega Roading Corp" that charges you $1 per kilometer to use.  We all know how big business loves looking after us after all.

Well... I dont live in the US and the roads here arent bad.

But, yeah, I am serious.  Are you serious that you would be better off without them?  How will you get around?  Pogo sticks?

You don't need to be authoritarian to build roads, that'd ridiculous, the fact that people still genuinely believe this annoys me because there's nothing preventing people from getting the equipment together and doing it themselves or pooling the money to build one.

Roads?

The less government interference the better. It really doesn't matter if you're more to the left or to the right. Nothing good comes from being authoritarian, that's a fact.

I fully agree, life isnt black and white so you need both, only when you are in a shitty position you miss some socialism..

Both?

Free market is good in some sectors, socialism in others. Mix of those is best for most, extreme of either to a few (those who have power).

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-changing-my-ideology-from-socialism-to-libertarianism-what-about-you-723537 ...

Let me help you out with that OP. Here is a 4-way political compass: http://www.politicalcompass.org/test



I score at the far bottom left, as an anarcho-socialist. I believe firmly that human beings are neuro-biologically wired for empathy, and that selfishness and competition are culturally imbued values.

If you want to see evidence for that assertion, you need only tune your TV to any American (un)"reality" show. Contrast that culture against the emotional openness of very young children or indigenous tribes.

Another member S.Boxx had brought this up before and we decided instead of Left and Right we could devide everyone up into Tentacles and Snakes. We call it Squish. The OBJECT of SQUISH is to find TENTACLES and SNAKES.  A TENTACLE is an email address used by a real person for the purpose of concealing their identity from others. A SNAKE is a TENTACLE that is particularly wicked and evil and will lie and trick others into believing the TENTACLE is real. In words, the more consequential and malicious a TENTACLE, the more it is a SNAKE.

> The TRUE NAME of a person behind a tentacle is also called the MOTHER or the MONSTER. Some of the TRUE NAMES are BIG MACS and some are SMALL FRIES.

> A MEDUSA is the leader of all SMALL FRIES and BIG MACS, a wicked, evil incarnation of SATAN on the Internet. She is the originator and chief proseletyzer of the art, science, and religion of lies. MEDUSA has dozens of SNAKES all over the Internet, particularly in extremely sensitive areas such as Internet protocol development(e.g. mercantile or digital cash protocols), posting from public access sites and even `covers' and `front' sites, these are called POISON NEEDLES. Corrupt administrators are always either BIG MACS or SMALL FRIES. Some sites have administrators who are unaware orapathetic toward infiltrations, these are called PAWNS.

> Anyone who knows about a tentacle or other CONSPIRACY, an `insider', is called TAINTED. People who don't know are called CLEAN. Some CLEAN and BYSTANDERS are particularly NAIVE and believe everything that BIG MACS and MEDUSA says, they are called BRAINWASHED. The ones that defend BIG MACS and MEDUSA are called BLIND. Those that simply don't care are called BRAIN DEAD.

> When MEDUSA infiltrates many sites and spews extremely dangerous disinformation and propaganda, this is called SABOTAGE. Telling people to go somewhere else and dominating conversations with irrelevant topics is called STRANGLING or GANG RAPE. Stealing sensitive information from others is called ESPIONAGE. Sabotage, strangling, espionage, and other types of cyberterrorism are called POISON. MEDUSA hides her activities beneath the various phrases PRIVACY FOR THE MASSES, the CRYPTOGRAPHIC REVOLUTION, and CRYPTOANARCHY in respectable media outlets like Wired and the New York Times. Sometimes this is accomplished by fooling reporters, but note that not all reporters are CLEAN, and bribery may be possible.

> MEDUSA is the orchestrator of a MASSIVE INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY to STRANGLE, SABOTAGE, and POISON THE INTERNET. Anyone who can drive MEDUSA and all the corrupt BIG MACS from Cyberspace and from the real world forever is called THE SAVIOR and said to have DRIVEN THE PHARISEES FROM THE TEMPLE.

Probably best to post in politics section but yeah its a lot more complicated then just left or right.  Most people here would favour a free market style i should think but you could break that up into hundreds of different types of systems alone.

Personally i like to see resources distributed without money but wont happen in my lifetime. 

Left and right is an attempt by people in power to pigeon hole everybody into convenient, easy to control and manage categories.

You're right, the poll is lacking some middle ground there - but I wouldn't really go as far as equating Soviet Russia to socialism, despite all the propaganda to that effect. The basic idea behind socialism, as far as I know, is worker control of the means of production; something they had none of, in Russia at that time. I suppose you could have called it a form of state socialism instead, or something, but it seems to me to have been just another excuse for a totalitarian state, and not much of a representation of socialism.

Leftie and rightie is more effectively used as a description for the curvature of a penis than as an accurate description of political viewpoint. What you have on this forum are usually anarchists, anarcho-capitalists, libertarian anarchists, libertarians, argumentative religious fundamentalist conservatives here to cause trouble and MoonShadow who defies classification.

How about a choice of:

1) more government
2) less government

Doesn't really matter if the government is left, right or centrist.