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Quote from: babo on May 16, 2024, 04:00:59 AM

Look, it's so complex to succeed that it would take a miracle, which can't happen
my beloved and favorite Atalanta can have flaws in everything except losing strategic and important matches
in the end next year's Champions League will help them raise cash to strengthen themselves even more

I had bigger expectations from Atalanta in the Coppa Italia finale but they couldn't find the target despite all those attempts. The match was just too boring to tell the truth. Sad

But I think this season can still be considered successful for Atalanta. Because they are in the Europa League finale and they are most probably qualifying for the Champions League as well. That win against Roma was really valuable. By the way I didn't know Gasperini has been in charge for this many years, wow. This is his 7th season. His contract expires by the summer of 2025 but I think they can extend that time after this effort.

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Look, it's so complex to succeed that it would take a miracle, which can't happen
my beloved and favorite Atalanta can have flaws in everything except losing strategic and important matches
in the end next year's Champions League will help them raise cash to strengthen themselves even more

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Quote from: bastisisca on May 15, 2024, 10:21:06 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on May 14, 2024, 05:16:52 PM

By now Juventus and Bologna have the certainty of playing in the Champions League next year so for them the championship is now over, I do not think that Bologna is interested in finishing fourth or third, they have now achieved their goal of the season. The fight remains only for Atalanta and Roma who will compete for the last place available for the Champions League, i.e. fifth place. Let's not forget that if Atalanta were to win the Europa League they would have access to the next Champions League and Italy could have as many as 6 teams

Roma certainly disappointed their fans with so many expectations, they failed in the match against Bayern Leverkusen, they weren`t able to beat Atalanta and consequently they missed out on several useful points to be able to stay in the games.
So is his non-participation in the Champions League mathematical?

unfortunately still the mathematics do not condemn Roma even though they have little hope.

5 - Atalanta 63 points 35 match
6 - Roma 60 points 36 match

At the moment Atalanta are only 3 points ahead of Roma but they have a match to make up, so they could potentially get another 9 points in total until the end of the championship.

On the other hand, Roma can score a maximum of 6 points until the end of the championship. Atalanta would only need to win one match and would be mathematically fifth in the standings, Roma just have to hope that Atalanta loses all their matches.

As I said before, it is difficult for Roma but they still have a very small chance to get a place in the Champions League, although personally I prefer Atalanta to go to the Champions League

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Quote from: Tauja on May 14, 2024, 05:43:27 PM

It looks like it will be quite difficult for Roma to overtake Atalanta because Roma are already 3 points behind, in fact Atalanta has one match they haven't played in the 36th match, so there is a big possibility that Atalanta will get points in the 36th match which will make Roma fall further behind. Roma actually wasted a lot of points in their last 5 matches because they failed to win in the last 3 matches which made them fail to maintain their position. I think Roma will finish in 6th position and they will fail to play in the champions league.

There is hope for Roma that they will get luck if Atalanta loses points in the next match. Then it will be an interesting competition for these two teams in the last two matches of the season. For Juventus and Bologna, of course their position is safe and they will play in the Champions League next season. The last two matches for Juventus and Bologna will only determine their position at the close of this season but I think Juventus will try to reach 3rd place.

Honestly the only thing that matters to me now is that in one way or another Juventus will eventually go to the Champions League
Of course we need to sort out the situation a little, if we go like this we will immediately exit the Champions League and therefore, ok we are in but now lets work to do well.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on May 14, 2024, 05:16:52 PM

By now Juventus and Bologna have the certainty of playing in the Champions League next year so for them the championship is now over, I do not think that Bologna is interested in finishing fourth or third, they have now achieved their goal of the season. The fight remains only for Atalanta and Roma who will compete for the last place available for the Champions League, i.e. fifth place. Let's not forget that if Atalanta were to win the Europa League they would have access to the next Champions League and Italy could have as many as 6 teams

Roma certainly disappointed their fans with so many expectations, they failed in the match against Bayern Leverkusen, they weren`t able to beat Atalanta and consequently they missed out on several useful points to be able to stay in the games.
So is his non-participation in the Champions League mathematical?

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Quote from: bastisisca on May 14, 2024, 09:42:07 AM

so in the end we have three teams for two places: Juventus, Atalanta, Roma
I remember that Atalanta also has a game less, which they will have to recover and consequently probable more points
It seems to me that Roma are the ones at risk, as you say

not good for Roma and De Rossi

It looks like it will be quite difficult for Roma to overtake Atalanta because Roma are already 3 points behind, in fact Atalanta has one match they haven't played in the 36th match, so there is a big possibility that Atalanta will get points in the 36th match which will make Roma fall further behind. Roma actually wasted a lot of points in their last 5 matches because they failed to win in the last 3 matches which made them fail to maintain their position. I think Roma will finish in 6th position and they will fail to play in the champions league.

There is hope for Roma that they will get luck if Atalanta loses points in the next match. Then it will be an interesting competition for these two teams in the last two matches of the season. For Juventus and Bologna, of course their position is safe and they will play in the Champions League next season. The last two matches for Juventus and Bologna will only determine their position at the close of this season but I think Juventus will try to reach 3rd place.

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Quote from: bastisisca on May 14, 2024, 09:42:07 AM

Quote from: Farma on May 13, 2024, 07:17:22 AM

Juventus' poor performance is a bit of an advantage for Bologna and I think now Bologna is safe enough to finish in 3rd place, but apart from that, the most important thing is that they can get a ticket to the Champions League next season and I think that is quite certain.

Roma, who are competing for tickets to the Champions League next season, also seem to have lost any hope after losing to Atalanta this week, and so now there is no more competition at the top, I think everything is over and It's quite a shame that De Rossi failed to fulfill management's target, namely getting a place in the Champions League next season.
Even though De Rossi has made ROma's performance quite good since his arrival, their performance has slowly declined.

so in the end we have three teams for two places: Juventus, Atalanta, Roma
I remember that Atalanta also has a game less, which they will have to recover and consequently probable more points
It seems to me that Roma are the ones at risk, as you say

not good for Roma and De Rossi

By now Juventus and Bologna have the certainty of playing in the Champions League next year so for them the championship is now over, I do not think that Bologna is interested in finishing fourth or third, they have now achieved their goal of the season. The fight remains only for Atalanta and Roma who will compete for the last place available for the Champions League, i.e. fifth place. Let's not forget that if Atalanta were to win the Europa League they would have access to the next Champions League and Italy could have as many as 6 teams

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Quote from: Farma on May 13, 2024, 07:17:22 AM

Juventus' poor performance is a bit of an advantage for Bologna and I think now Bologna is safe enough to finish in 3rd place, but apart from that, the most important thing is that they can get a ticket to the Champions League next season and I think that is quite certain.

Roma, who are competing for tickets to the Champions League next season, also seem to have lost any hope after losing to Atalanta this week, and so now there is no more competition at the top, I think everything is over and It's quite a shame that De Rossi failed to fulfill management's target, namely getting a place in the Champions League next season.
Even though De Rossi has made ROma's performance quite good since his arrival, their performance has slowly declined.

so in the end we have three teams for two places: Juventus, Atalanta, Roma
I remember that Atalanta also has a game less, which they will have to recover and consequently probable more points
It seems to me that Roma are the ones at risk, as you say

not good for Roma and De Rossi

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Quote from: Awak Bambi on May 14, 2024, 06:50:06 AM

Bologna next week will meet Juventus, this really depends on their third position because Juventus is also aiming for third place, meaning Bologna must be able to win especially since they will be playing at home.

If not for the fact that Bologna too can be inconsistent recently, I would have gone with a win for Bologna. Bologna winning Napoli was not too big a deal because Napoli are really out of form this season and even though they manage to win some games, they've had a pretty bad season. Bologna on the other hand has been good so I expected them to win Napoli.
Juventus is going to be a big test for them. What I'm sure of to a certain level is that Bologna won't lose that match. The worst might be a draw. This year, I think the only league match Bologna has lost at home was against Inter Milan and that's understandable. Inter are the best team in the league this season and it was only a 1-0 win. Aside from that, Bologna never lost at home. A double chance option for Bologna won't be a bad idea, plus the odds won't be small.

Another team I would like to see in the Champions League next season is Roma. I'd like to see how De Rossi performs in the UCL, unfortunately, they might have blown their chances of Champions League football when they lost to Atalanta last week. Roma haven't won any of their past 5 games, that's worrisome.

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Quote from: Distraction on May 14, 2024, 06:24:59 AM

Bologna have done a wonderful job this season. There is really a Thiago Motta effect here. Wink

He accepted the job in the first times of the 2022/23 season. His first season wasn't that great you know, he finished in the 9th place. But the board still wanted to trust him for another season, and here we are!

There is a Bologna - Juventus match in 6 days. If Bologna win (which is quite likely to happen I think) they are going to guarantee finishing in the 3rd place. Because head-to-head matches are prioritized if there is equal points condition.

The board should extend Motta's contract immediately which is ending this summer for now.

Motta really repaid the trust given by Bologna management this season, Motta brought the Serie A club to qualify for the Champions League, and is in third place in the current standings, with players who are not labeled stars but are able to place themselves in the top flight. top position. Third position, with good results this season, I think the Bologna board of directors should appreciate Motta's hard work in this great season with the Bologna team.

Bologna next week will meet Juventus, this really depends on their third position because Juventus is also aiming for third place, meaning Bologna must be able to win especially since they will be playing at home, we can see that currently Juventus is in a slump and last week Bologna managed to beat Napoli at home to Napoli, this can be a motivation in itself considering that the opposing team is in a slump, Bologna can take advantage of it, I agree with you that Bologna will be successful in getting three points at home and establish themselves in 3rd place in Serie A this season.

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Bologna have done a wonderful job this season. There is really a Thiago Motta effect here. Wink

He accepted the job in the first times of the 2022/23 season. His first season wasn't that great you know, he finished in the 9th place. But the board still wanted to trust him for another season, and here we are!

There is a Bologna - Juventus match in 6 days. If Bologna win (which is quite likely to happen I think) they are going to guarantee finishing in the 3rd place. Because head-to-head matches are prioritized if there is equal points condition.

The board should extend Motta's contract immediately which is ending this summer for now.

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Quote from: FanEagle on May 12, 2024, 02:49:20 PM

The fact that Bologna reached third place, and not even with like a lot of wins, they are getting draws and even a loss, but they got at least few wins, all because Juventus basically fails to win games now, shows how bad Juventus got. Bologna was fighting to keep Roma from fourth place just recently, not Roma is sixth and trying to be fifth, and that is not really a good look for them.

This is basically a proof that Bologna is doing great there is no doubt about that but it is also a fact that we are seeing other teams not doing all that well neither, that is the point. If other teams, like Juventus for example, won their games, they would have been ahead, or if Roma had wins, they would have been higher too, but they both failed to win their games.

Juventus' poor performance is a bit of an advantage for Bologna and I think now Bologna is safe enough to finish in 3rd place, but apart from that, the most important thing is that they can get a ticket to the Champions League next season and I think that is quite certain.

Roma, who are competing for tickets to the Champions League next season, also seem to have lost any hope after losing to Atalanta this week, and so now there is no more competition at the top, I think everything is over and It's quite a shame that De Rossi failed to fulfill management's target, namely getting a place in the Champions League next season.
Even though De Rossi has made ROma's performance quite good since his arrival, their performance has slowly declined.

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The fact that Bologna reached third place, and not even with like a lot of wins, they are getting draws and even a loss, but they got at least few wins, all because Juventus basically fails to win games now, shows how bad Juventus got. Bologna was fighting to keep Roma from fourth place just recently, not Roma is sixth and trying to be fifth, and that is not really a good look for them.

This is basically a proof that Bologna is doing great there is no doubt about that but it is also a fact that we are seeing other teams not doing all that well neither, that is the point. If other teams, like Juventus for example, won their games, they would have been ahead, or if Roma had wins, they would have been higher too, but they both failed to win their games.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on May 09, 2024, 01:20:51 PM

Osimhen could be a good striker there is no doubt about that but saying that he would have been worth 150 million is just bonkers, he never worth 150 million and if Napoli sold him for that much then he would have scammed some other team for sure lol, if there was an offer for 150 million and they rejected then Napoli is basically an idiot, they need a better owner or management because that dude worths maximum of 80 million if you ask me. Not that it didn't happen before, Nunez was like 100 million, that dude would have been 30-40 million at most as well.

Sometimes teams overpay, we will see this summer where Osimhen goes and for how much money but I am pretty sure that he is not as good as the money Napoli asks suggests, that is not going to be the case for a long time for sure.

Transfer market is changing really fast. Normally I also agree with you on that. 150 million euros is really a huge value to pay for Osimhen. If he is signed by this amount he is going to be the 3rd most expensive transfer of all time after Neymar (€222m) and Mbappe (€180m). People will surely discuss whether Osimhen is that great player.

However like I said this is the nature of the transfer market. There is inflation here too. Players get more expensive in time. As a result I won't be surprised if a rich team steps forward and pay what Napoli wants for him. Tongue

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 10, 2024, 01:12:12 PM

Quote from: len01 on May 09, 2024, 04:32:56 AM

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But PSG is not a bad option for him, because they reached the semi-finals, they just had bad luck and lost, but they also couldn't beat Dortmund, for some reason Dortmund was the finalist, but this is not bad, therefore when we quickly concluded that at least if Osimhen enters PSG, because I know he has a direct pass to UCL, he would also enter as defending champion, while in MU he has to build everything from the beginning, and if Ten Hag doesn't leave, then things It will be worse, he really has to see what his best future is because they are not in the best moment and with a coach like that I don't see any good future.

as I said before, if Osimhen joined PSG, it wouldn't be a bad thing (if his desire was for money) but it would be very bad if you thought about his future career to gain great experience in a prestigious league like the UCL.
everyone acknowledges all these statements and looking at the rumors circulating, maybe I will ignore Man United, but in fact I would agree more if Osimhen joined Arsenal or Chelsea.
both teams from the EPL need players like Osimhen to regain their glory and the future of Osimhen career looks brighter than having to go to PSG who will only get 1 league title throughout the season.
even though PSG had competed until the semi finals, that doesn't mean it can guarantee Osimhen will get the UCL title because PSG will always fail in the UCL even though they have 10 star players.

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Quote from: Albarq on May 11, 2024, 07:45:39 PM

I think Juventus are currently disappointed because they lost points when facing AS Roma in Serie A because they took too many unconvincing steps in the match with their playing style taking too many risks in the last minute of the match with the Bianconeri holding on with the hosts taking the lead first with a strong second The teams competed equally strong 1-1, so the team I supported lost badly.

Juventus was not only disappointed when they faced Roma, even before facing Roma, Juventus had often lost points and was only able to get 1 point in the last few matches, so Juventus' disappointment has become a natural thing when the club should be able to get as many points as possible but was only able to get 1 point, which means appearance
Juventus is not optimal, winning 1 point against Roma is already a satisfactory result for Juventus because they are still in the Champions League zone with quite safe points but it is not satisfying for Juventus fans who want to see Juventus win in the remaining matches.

Today Juventus will face Salernitana it should be a fairly easy match for Juventus to win against the weakest club in the league but we also don't know what will happen because Salernitana is fighting in the relegation zone to save its position it has to get important points in every match and what he is facing today is a top club even though their performance is inconsistent, but Salernitana is also not easy to steal 3 points from Juventus.

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Quote from: Farma on May 10, 2024, 11:52:27 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on May 10, 2024, 08:33:06 AM

Yes Victor is not only a good player, talented but also a truly decent person
in fact he didnt like how he was treated this season, he scored few goals but it is not his fault... an attacker scores if he is supported by the team, otherwise he simply doesn.
I am sad he leave italy.

With what Osimhen has done this season for Napoli I think it is enough, indeed this season Osimhen has declined a little but it cannot be denied that the injury Osimhen suffered also made him lose his best performance a little, but with the injury he suffered he suffered and made Osimhen often sit on the bench reserve this season, but Osimhen continues to score goals with his current Topscore ranking in third place and can still overtake Vlahovic in second place with a difference of one goal, with this we have to admit that Osimhen is one good sraiker.

With the incident that happened to Osimhen which made him decline a little, this is also because the Napoli team is also not in good form, so in this case this season I think Osimhen is still good even though he has been hit by a storm of injuries and the team's declining performance. Osimhen can still score goals and record his name on the Topscore board.

Those team that succeed in becoming champions will always be able to dominate the title of best player and also the title of top scorer, just like last season when Napoli became champions and won the Scudetto, the top scorer belonged to Osimhen and the best player belonged Khvicha Kvaratskhelia.
Napoli had more than two players who got the best title last season, and the great one was Khvicha Kvaratskhelia because he got this big achievement in his first season with Napoli.
For now, Inter Milan is the champion and Lautaro Martinez is the top scorer and Inter Milan dominates the title of best player.
But for Osimhen himself, if he doesn't suffer an injury, there is possibility that he can match Lautaro Martinez even though Napoli cannot finish in one of the top places.

But unfortunately next season we will not see Osimhen playing for Napoli because there is an agreement that will be made between Napoli and PSG to purchase Osimhen.
Previously, it was also reported that Chelsea had an interest in having Osimhen, but Napoli asked for quite large amount and Chelsea themselves were in difficult financial situation so it was reported that it was impossible for them to compete with PSG to get Osimhen.

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Quote from: len01 on May 09, 2024, 04:32:56 AM

looks easy but very difficult to predict. Tongue

yesterday Inter helped Sassuolo to get 3 points while Milan and Juventus recently chose to end the match with a draw.
for me, betting on one team winning in each match is very risky.
but I really appreciate your betting plan, because maybe you take this risk for the right odds results.

I think Juventus are currently disappointed because they lost points when facing AS Roma in Serie A because they took too many unconvincing steps in the match with their playing style taking too many risks in the last minute of the match with the Bianconeri holding on with the hosts taking the lead first with a strong second The teams competed equally strong 1-1, so the team I supported lost badly.

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I hope Osimhen doesn't sign for PSG. I would rather see him playing for an English team. PSG are a loser in the Champions League. Still no titles and Mbappe has also stated his departure by the end of the season.

The Ligue 1 is like most boring league in Europe. Sad

What will Osimhen do there? He should play in one of top European leagues to improve his game and career both.

Chelsea might be one of the seriously interested teams but they aren't in the Champions League next season. If Osimhen gets an offer from a qualified team then his choice would be that one imho.

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Quote from: boltz on May 10, 2024, 12:28:39 PM

Frosinione - Inter is the only game from Serie A today and honestly I can't expect anything from this game besides the hosts giving 110% in order to take points because Inter has no mean to actually risk some key injuries at the end of the season when the title has already been won. Cool

That should be the case, Inter Milan doesn't have any interest in the remaining matches this season, but the surprising thing that happened is that Inter Milan managed to win with a landslide score of 5 goals without reply.
I was quite disappointed, I bet on Frosinione's victory, I thought that those who needed full points to get away from the relegation zone could show a more persistent game, especially since they were playing at home, but in fact Frosinione lost badly.

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