⚽ Lega Serie A 🇮🇹 (Italian League) Prediction Thread 2023/2024⚽ - page 54.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on May 17, 2024, 09:25:58 AM

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Do you think Allegri will stay? Huh

It must be right after you said this, Allegri got sacked. Tongue

However it was unexpected chain of events for me. I know he has been managing the team since the beginning of the 2021/2022 season. But Juventus were dealing with bigger issues than the manager. They just couldn't manage to make the squad strong for real for a long time.

Therefore I waited for Allegri to be kept for one more season but this time with letting him make necessary signings for certain areas to make an impact on next season. But here we are.

Now I wonder who their next manager is going to be... There are options who can be signed such as Conte, Motta for example.

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Quote from: bastisisca on May 17, 2024, 08:21:07 AM

Quote from: Sunderland on May 16, 2024, 03:39:02 PM

No, Italy gets 1 additional spot for the Champions League from UEFA and that means there will be 5 clubs from Serie A competing in the CL next season.
Top 6th will play in the Europa League and top 7th will be qualify for the Conference league.
But Roma position is still not safe yet, Lazio might overtaken them if they failed to win in the last 2 matches of this season.

let`s also say that it is not mathematical that he will not enter the Champions League but that his hope is hanging by a weak and thin thread
maybe he succeeds, if De Rossi is lucky enough, he would become a hero without having done anything but only having enough luck to finish in 5th place with Italy which this year takes 5 teams

Well now everything is mathematically decided, Atalanta is the fifth Italian team to qualify for the next Champions League. With today's 0-2 victory at home against Lecce, they have mathematically secured the last available place. Roma have to be content with the Europa League again next year, most likely together with Lazio, and Fiorentina in the conference league even though they are not mathematically qualified

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Quote from: giammangiato on May 17, 2024, 08:33:06 AM

look, I am a Juventus fan and I am Italian, winning the Italian cup means nothing
lets say it is just a pastime if you have nothing to do, it is no coincidence that Inter played with the third team, it is no coincidence
unfortunately this is the ugly situation of this Juventus season
Lets hope the next one is better

Inter didn't care about the Coppa Italia, I agree with that. They were fully focused on the Serie A title that they got eliminated early in the Champions League as well. But they reached their goal in Italy eventually.

However as for Juventus, they really had to care about this cup. Because they had no other target left. At least they wanted to use this trophy like an apology to their fans. But would this be enough? Of course it wouldn't. The fans will certainly have bigger expectations from Juventus next time.

Do you think Allegri will stay? Huh

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Quote from: boltz on May 16, 2024, 08:14:29 AM

Juventus won yesterday their only trophy in the last 3 years and that was a poor performance from them and only won because Atalanta is way more focused on winning Europa League than rather risking a key injury against Juventus.

Meanwhile , we do have a great battle to avoid relegation in Serie B with Bari vs Ternana in all or nothing game.

look, I am a Juventus fan and I am Italian, winning the Italian cup means nothing
lets say it is just a pastime if you have nothing to do, it is no coincidence that Inter played with the third team, it is no coincidence
unfortunately this is the ugly situation of this Juventus season
Lets hope the next one is better

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Quote from: Sunderland on May 16, 2024, 03:39:02 PM

No, Italy gets 1 additional spot for the Champions League from UEFA and that means there will be 5 clubs from Serie A competing in the CL next season.
Top 6th will play in the Europa League and top 7th will be qualify for the Conference league.
But Roma position is still not safe yet, Lazio might overtaken them if they failed to win in the last 2 matches of this season.

let`s also say that it is not mathematical that he will not enter the Champions League but that his hope is hanging by a weak and thin thread
maybe he succeeds, if De Rossi is lucky enough, he would become a hero without having done anything but only having enough luck to finish in 5th place with Italy which this year takes 5 teams

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Quote from: bitgolden on May 16, 2024, 01:54:03 PM

Roma definitely dropped the ball on those last weeks, they could have been as high as fourth place by now if they played well, but they are not and they lost and drawn at the times they shouldn't.

It's clear that they are going to finish sixth, and they will go to conference if I am not wrong in that case, right? If that is the case then we are going to see Roma do not that bad next season, because they are good enough to be a title contender right off the bat, unless something worse happens like injuries and unexpected losses, they should be fine. And while doing that, they could focus on the league as well, because they will have easy wins at group stages of the conference league, meaning they can focus on the league a lot more and get wins they need.

No, Italy gets 1 additional spot for the Champions League from UEFA and that means there will be 5 clubs from Serie A competing in the CL next season.
Top 6th will play in the Europa League and top 7th will be qualify for the Conference league.
But Roma position is still not safe yet, Lazio might overtaken them if they failed to win in the last 2 matches of this season.

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Roma definitely dropped the ball on those last weeks, they could have been as high as fourth place by now if they played well, but they are not and they lost and drawn at the times they shouldn't.

It's clear that they are going to finish sixth, and they will go to conference if I am not wrong in that case, right? If that is the case then we are going to see Roma do not that bad next season, because they are good enough to be a title contender right off the bat, unless something worse happens like injuries and unexpected losses, they should be fine. And while doing that, they could focus on the league as well, because they will have easy wins at group stages of the conference league, meaning they can focus on the league a lot more and get wins they need.

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Juventus won yesterday their only trophy in the last 3 years and that was a poor performance from them and only won because Atalanta is way more focused on winning Europa League than rather risking a key injury against Juventus.

Meanwhile , we do have a great battle to avoid relegation in Serie B with Bari vs Ternana in all or nothing game.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on May 15, 2024, 02:24:40 PM

unfortunately still the mathematics do not condemn Roma even though they have little hope.

5 - Atalanta 63 points 35 match
6 - Roma 60 points 36 match

At the moment Atalanta are only 3 points ahead of Roma but they have a match to make up, so they could potentially get another 9 points in total until the end of the championship.

On the other hand, Roma can score a maximum of 6 points until the end of the championship. Atalanta would only need to win one match and would be mathematically fifth in the standings, Roma just have to hope that Atalanta loses all their matches.

As I said before, it is difficult for Roma but they still have a very small chance to get a place in the Champions League, although personally I prefer Atalanta to go to the Champions League

ah ok, now everything adds up, you did the math very well
so mathematically Roma are not out of the game but they have to hope Atalanta loses as well as they have to win always and in any case
Let`s say it is very complex and difficult to make it, but you never know in life
So for me Roma dont go in Champions League

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obviously I dont see any other easy games
I throw myself into this single match for Roma who I hope will win with dignity against Genoa
clearly if he doesnt win patience, their championship is now gone

So i bet only on winning of Roma

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Quote from: babo on May 16, 2024, 04:00:59 AM

Look, it's so complex to succeed that it would take a miracle, which can't happen
my beloved and favorite Atalanta can have flaws in everything except losing strategic and important matches
in the end next year's Champions League will help them raise cash to strengthen themselves even more

I had bigger expectations from Atalanta in the Coppa Italia finale but they couldn't find the target despite all those attempts. The match was just too boring to tell the truth. Sad

But I think this season can still be considered successful for Atalanta. Because they are in the Europa League finale and they are most probably qualifying for the Champions League as well. That win against Roma was really valuable. By the way I didn't know Gasperini has been in charge for this many years, wow. This is his 7th season. His contract expires by the summer of 2025 but I think they can extend that time after this effort.

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Look, it's so complex to succeed that it would take a miracle, which can't happen
my beloved and favorite Atalanta can have flaws in everything except losing strategic and important matches
in the end next year's Champions League will help them raise cash to strengthen themselves even more

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Quote from: bastisisca on May 15, 2024, 10:21:06 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on May 14, 2024, 05:16:52 PM

By now Juventus and Bologna have the certainty of playing in the Champions League next year so for them the championship is now over, I do not think that Bologna is interested in finishing fourth or third, they have now achieved their goal of the season. The fight remains only for Atalanta and Roma who will compete for the last place available for the Champions League, i.e. fifth place. Let's not forget that if Atalanta were to win the Europa League they would have access to the next Champions League and Italy could have as many as 6 teams

Roma certainly disappointed their fans with so many expectations, they failed in the match against Bayern Leverkusen, they weren`t able to beat Atalanta and consequently they missed out on several useful points to be able to stay in the games.
So is his non-participation in the Champions League mathematical?

unfortunately still the mathematics do not condemn Roma even though they have little hope.

5 - Atalanta 63 points 35 match
6 - Roma 60 points 36 match

At the moment Atalanta are only 3 points ahead of Roma but they have a match to make up, so they could potentially get another 9 points in total until the end of the championship.

On the other hand, Roma can score a maximum of 6 points until the end of the championship. Atalanta would only need to win one match and would be mathematically fifth in the standings, Roma just have to hope that Atalanta loses all their matches.

As I said before, it is difficult for Roma but they still have a very small chance to get a place in the Champions League, although personally I prefer Atalanta to go to the Champions League

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Quote from: Tauja on May 14, 2024, 05:43:27 PM

It looks like it will be quite difficult for Roma to overtake Atalanta because Roma are already 3 points behind, in fact Atalanta has one match they haven't played in the 36th match, so there is a big possibility that Atalanta will get points in the 36th match which will make Roma fall further behind. Roma actually wasted a lot of points in their last 5 matches because they failed to win in the last 3 matches which made them fail to maintain their position. I think Roma will finish in 6th position and they will fail to play in the champions league.

There is hope for Roma that they will get luck if Atalanta loses points in the next match. Then it will be an interesting competition for these two teams in the last two matches of the season. For Juventus and Bologna, of course their position is safe and they will play in the Champions League next season. The last two matches for Juventus and Bologna will only determine their position at the close of this season but I think Juventus will try to reach 3rd place.

Honestly the only thing that matters to me now is that in one way or another Juventus will eventually go to the Champions League
Of course we need to sort out the situation a little, if we go like this we will immediately exit the Champions League and therefore, ok we are in but now lets work to do well.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on May 14, 2024, 05:16:52 PM

By now Juventus and Bologna have the certainty of playing in the Champions League next year so for them the championship is now over, I do not think that Bologna is interested in finishing fourth or third, they have now achieved their goal of the season. The fight remains only for Atalanta and Roma who will compete for the last place available for the Champions League, i.e. fifth place. Let's not forget that if Atalanta were to win the Europa League they would have access to the next Champions League and Italy could have as many as 6 teams

Roma certainly disappointed their fans with so many expectations, they failed in the match against Bayern Leverkusen, they weren`t able to beat Atalanta and consequently they missed out on several useful points to be able to stay in the games.
So is his non-participation in the Champions League mathematical?

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Quote from: bastisisca on May 14, 2024, 09:42:07 AM

so in the end we have three teams for two places: Juventus, Atalanta, Roma
I remember that Atalanta also has a game less, which they will have to recover and consequently probable more points
It seems to me that Roma are the ones at risk, as you say

not good for Roma and De Rossi

It looks like it will be quite difficult for Roma to overtake Atalanta because Roma are already 3 points behind, in fact Atalanta has one match they haven't played in the 36th match, so there is a big possibility that Atalanta will get points in the 36th match which will make Roma fall further behind. Roma actually wasted a lot of points in their last 5 matches because they failed to win in the last 3 matches which made them fail to maintain their position. I think Roma will finish in 6th position and they will fail to play in the champions league.

There is hope for Roma that they will get luck if Atalanta loses points in the next match. Then it will be an interesting competition for these two teams in the last two matches of the season. For Juventus and Bologna, of course their position is safe and they will play in the Champions League next season. The last two matches for Juventus and Bologna will only determine their position at the close of this season but I think Juventus will try to reach 3rd place.

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Quote from: bastisisca on May 14, 2024, 09:42:07 AM

Quote from: Farma on May 13, 2024, 07:17:22 AM

Juventus' poor performance is a bit of an advantage for Bologna and I think now Bologna is safe enough to finish in 3rd place, but apart from that, the most important thing is that they can get a ticket to the Champions League next season and I think that is quite certain.

Roma, who are competing for tickets to the Champions League next season, also seem to have lost any hope after losing to Atalanta this week, and so now there is no more competition at the top, I think everything is over and It's quite a shame that De Rossi failed to fulfill management's target, namely getting a place in the Champions League next season.
Even though De Rossi has made ROma's performance quite good since his arrival, their performance has slowly declined.

so in the end we have three teams for two places: Juventus, Atalanta, Roma
I remember that Atalanta also has a game less, which they will have to recover and consequently probable more points
It seems to me that Roma are the ones at risk, as you say

not good for Roma and De Rossi

By now Juventus and Bologna have the certainty of playing in the Champions League next year so for them the championship is now over, I do not think that Bologna is interested in finishing fourth or third, they have now achieved their goal of the season. The fight remains only for Atalanta and Roma who will compete for the last place available for the Champions League, i.e. fifth place. Let's not forget that if Atalanta were to win the Europa League they would have access to the next Champions League and Italy could have as many as 6 teams

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Quote from: Farma on May 13, 2024, 07:17:22 AM

Juventus' poor performance is a bit of an advantage for Bologna and I think now Bologna is safe enough to finish in 3rd place, but apart from that, the most important thing is that they can get a ticket to the Champions League next season and I think that is quite certain.

Roma, who are competing for tickets to the Champions League next season, also seem to have lost any hope after losing to Atalanta this week, and so now there is no more competition at the top, I think everything is over and It's quite a shame that De Rossi failed to fulfill management's target, namely getting a place in the Champions League next season.
Even though De Rossi has made ROma's performance quite good since his arrival, their performance has slowly declined.

so in the end we have three teams for two places: Juventus, Atalanta, Roma
I remember that Atalanta also has a game less, which they will have to recover and consequently probable more points
It seems to me that Roma are the ones at risk, as you say

not good for Roma and De Rossi

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Quote from: Awak Bambi on May 14, 2024, 06:50:06 AM

Bologna next week will meet Juventus, this really depends on their third position because Juventus is also aiming for third place, meaning Bologna must be able to win especially since they will be playing at home.

If not for the fact that Bologna too can be inconsistent recently, I would have gone with a win for Bologna. Bologna winning Napoli was not too big a deal because Napoli are really out of form this season and even though they manage to win some games, they've had a pretty bad season. Bologna on the other hand has been good so I expected them to win Napoli.
Juventus is going to be a big test for them. What I'm sure of to a certain level is that Bologna won't lose that match. The worst might be a draw. This year, I think the only league match Bologna has lost at home was against Inter Milan and that's understandable. Inter are the best team in the league this season and it was only a 1-0 win. Aside from that, Bologna never lost at home. A double chance option for Bologna won't be a bad idea, plus the odds won't be small.

Another team I would like to see in the Champions League next season is Roma. I'd like to see how De Rossi performs in the UCL, unfortunately, they might have blown their chances of Champions League football when they lost to Atalanta last week. Roma haven't won any of their past 5 games, that's worrisome.

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Quote from: Distraction on May 14, 2024, 06:24:59 AM

Bologna have done a wonderful job this season. There is really a Thiago Motta effect here. Wink

He accepted the job in the first times of the 2022/23 season. His first season wasn't that great you know, he finished in the 9th place. But the board still wanted to trust him for another season, and here we are!

There is a Bologna - Juventus match in 6 days. If Bologna win (which is quite likely to happen I think) they are going to guarantee finishing in the 3rd place. Because head-to-head matches are prioritized if there is equal points condition.

The board should extend Motta's contract immediately which is ending this summer for now.

Motta really repaid the trust given by Bologna management this season, Motta brought the Serie A club to qualify for the Champions League, and is in third place in the current standings, with players who are not labeled stars but are able to place themselves in the top flight. top position. Third position, with good results this season, I think the Bologna board of directors should appreciate Motta's hard work in this great season with the Bologna team.

Bologna next week will meet Juventus, this really depends on their third position because Juventus is also aiming for third place, meaning Bologna must be able to win especially since they will be playing at home, we can see that currently Juventus is in a slump and last week Bologna managed to beat Napoli at home to Napoli, this can be a motivation in itself considering that the opposing team is in a slump, Bologna can take advantage of it, I agree with you that Bologna will be successful in getting three points at home and establish themselves in 3rd place in Serie A this season.

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