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Quote from: giammangiato on March 28, 2024, 08:24:07 AM

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In my opinion, however, if there is a culprit, it is Massimiliano Allegri. The club set him up with a team to win the championship, he has no commitments in European competitions, and he is currently in third place in Serie A. Many victories were achieved in the last minutes without ever dominating a match and for me this is a failure. He was supposed to dominate the championship instead he finds himself fighting not to lose even the fourth place. I wish you that the next coach will be a coach who brings you to fight to win the Scudetto

In fact, the season went very badly from this point of view, there was contributory blame but in my opinion it wasnt entirely his fault.

Not because I want to defend him at all costs, but something is not working in the team and if the mechanism has a broken piece nothing will work. My opinion.

Obviously I don't think the fault lies entirely with coach Allegri, certainly in the dressing room there is general discontent and the players don't obey the orders of the coach. Often the will of the players can play tricks on coaches, they can deliberately but tacitly decide whether a coach should remain at the helm of the team or be relieved, and to do this they need only start a series of bad performances. These are obviously absolutely personal opinions

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Quote from: giammangiato on March 29, 2024, 09:33:06 AM

Quote from: boltz on March 28, 2024, 11:56:34 AM

Allegri is the best coach for Juventus right now but the club has so many problems that I doubt this team will be able to hold top 4 until end of the season. I also don't think Juventus they deserve to play in UCL next season as the current team they have is for Europa League level. I must be a bit harsh on this but this is my personal opinion about Juventus this year and how the club is preparing for the next one.

As a Juventus fan I agree with you, I have always had a good time with Massimiliano Allegri as coach, but as you may have noticed, it is been two years in which he is really struggling
I cant even understand what the real problem is
and I dont even think his coach or the club are perfectly aware of it

With a gap of up to 17 points with Inter, Juventus seems to have no chance of winning the championship. The reason was when Juventus lost to Udinese at home, and the previous loss to Inter hurt Juventus too much and caused them to lose much of their motivation. 'The players tried their best and then realized they were still too far behind their opponents, which knocked them down.' The most disappointing thing for fans is not that Juventus lost to Inter but that they surrendered disgracefully. Last season, Juve was eliminated from the Top 6 because of mistakes, but they still made fans proud because of their great spirit of trying to overcome adversity. And now? From the position of competing for the Scudetto with Inter, they are now struggling to fight for a position in the Top 4.
Over the past month and a half, Allegri has been powerless to revive a team that lacks motivation and is mentally exhausted. And, of course, Allegri must be responsible for that series of disappointing matches.

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Quote from: giammangiato on March 29, 2024, 09:33:06 AM

Quote from: boltz on March 28, 2024, 11:56:34 AM

Allegri is the best coach for Juventus right now but the club has so many problems that I doubt this team will be able to hold top 4 until end of the season. I also don't think Juventus they deserve to play in UCL next season as the current team they have is for Europa League level. I must be a bit harsh on this but this is my personal opinion about Juventus this year and how the club is preparing for the next one.

As a Juventus fan I agree with you, I have always had a good time with Massimiliano Allegri as coach, but as you may have noticed, it is been two years in which he is really struggling
I cant even understand what the real problem is
and I dont even think his coach or the club are perfectly aware of it

Massimiliano Allegri has given his best for Juventus, but currently the team is going through difficult times, and I don't think what happened is entirely Massimiliano Allegri should be responsible because there are quite a lot of internal team problems that have an impact on performance.
Massimiliano Allegri has tried to make better progress compared to last season and I think Massimiliano Allegri needs time and support to get Juventus back to its top form.

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Quote from: boltz on March 28, 2024, 11:56:34 AM

Allegri is the best coach for Juventus right now but the club has so many problems that I doubt this team will be able to hold top 4 until end of the season. I also don't think Juventus they deserve to play in UCL next season as the current team they have is for Europa League level. I must be a bit harsh on this but this is my personal opinion about Juventus this year and how the club is preparing for the next one.

As a Juventus fan I agree with you, I have always had a good time with Massimiliano Allegri as coach, but as you may have noticed, it is been two years in which he is really struggling
I cant even understand what the real problem is
and I dont even think his coach or the club are perfectly aware of it

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Quote from: Farma on March 28, 2024, 11:23:05 AM

This season Juventus can be better than last season, so there is indeed positive progress and also internally the Juventus team has a lot of problems so Massimiliano Allegri cannot be completely blamed.

Massimiliano Allegri is a great coach and he has led Juventus to win the Scudetto which indicates that the quality of Massimiliano Allegri's coaching is quite good, so because of that I also think there are many other problems that have an impact on the team's performance.

in short, I absolutely disagree with you, in fact I totally disagree
last year, last season Juventus played cups while this year no cups
for me he had a totally disappointing performance this year, I agree. with you having multiple problems, you have to start trying to fix them somewhere

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Quote from: klidex on March 28, 2024, 11:46:36 PM

Massimiliano Allegri is indeed a good coach for Juventus because he has led Juventus to win the league title several times and I thought Massimiliano Allegri would do the same thing this season but it turns out that Juventus has to face various performance problems and it seems that the mentality of the Juventus players is not yet completely strong in the title competition. With Inter Milan whose players have high confidence and a good mentality in the title race, Juventus must learn from the mistakes of the previous seasons. Why they always fail to win the Scudetto, perhaps one of the reasons lies in the players not performing optimally.

Juventus' performance this season alone in the Seri a is not very consistent, how can Juventus face quite tough matches in the Champions League, especially when Juventus has a busy schedule unlike the current season, at least Juventus is improving its performance so that it can compete closely in the Champions League next season because it's not funny to see its performance Juventus is bad only because of the lack of adequate resources. I hope Juventus recruits good players to improve its performance next season. I really want to see Juventus return to its best performance in Serie A and in the Champions League.

he is a good coach for any team, not just Juventus
However, I believe that the problems of the black and white team are multiple and not just that
honestly, with only the championship I didn't expect him to have this physical decline
we will see in the future

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Quote from: boltz on March 28, 2024, 11:56:34 AM

Allegri is the best coach for Juventus right now but the club has so many problems that I doubt this team will be able to hold top 4 until end of the season. I also don't think Juventus they deserve to play in UCL next season as the current team they have is for Europa League level. I must be a bit harsh on this but this is my personal opinion about Juventus this year and how the club is preparing for the next one.

Massimiliano Allegri is indeed a good coach for Juventus because he has led Juventus to win the league title several times and I thought Massimiliano Allegri would do the same thing this season but it turns out that Juventus has to face various performance problems and it seems that the mentality of the Juventus players is not yet completely strong in the title competition. With Inter Milan whose players have high confidence and a good mentality in the title race, Juventus must learn from the mistakes of the previous seasons. Why they always fail to win the Scudetto, perhaps one of the reasons lies in the players not performing optimally.

Juventus' performance this season alone in the Seri a is not very consistent, how can Juventus face quite tough matches in the Champions League, especially when Juventus has a busy schedule unlike the current season, at least Juventus is improving its performance so that it can compete closely in the Champions League next season because it's not funny to see its performance Juventus is bad only because of the lack of adequate resources. I hope Juventus recruits good players to improve its performance next season. I really want to see Juventus return to its best performance in Serie A and in the Champions League.

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Quote from: boltz on March 28, 2024, 11:56:34 AM

Allegri is the best coach for Juventus right now but the club has so many problems that I doubt this team will be able to hold top 4 until end of the season. I also don't think Juventus they deserve to play in UCL next season as the current team they have is for Europa League level. I must be a bit harsh on this but this is my personal opinion about Juventus this year and how the club is preparing for the next one.

I agree about Allegri. He is technically one of the best managers for Juventus. People are forgetting about a fact here. He has achieved so many championships with Juventus so far. Juventus had their golden age with him.

Now they aren't having a good time. But I don't think this is all Allegri's fault. First of all he should be authorized to rebuild this squad. There are obviously significant weaknesses to fix.

Rather than sacking Allegri I think he should be given another chance by letting him transferring the players fitting his system this summer.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on March 27, 2024, 10:58:06 PM

Spending money on players who have great skills is not loss, and every team needs time to change after the bad conditions they have experienced.
Last season Juventus had series of problems that made things difficult for them and now they are back again, able to have much better performance so they can become one of the team at the top.
We all know that Juventus has well-supported resources and they can get lot of big names in every transfer market, it is long-term investment which in my opinion can be profitable but not immediately.
If this is loss then all team will also experience losses, but in reality many team can still develop very well.

Juventus doesn't really have a problem, their squad is not bad neither, I think the only issue they have right now is that they have a manager who plays them too defensively, and considering they are one of the better teams in the league, they shouldn't worry about attacking all that much, they need to figure out a way to be more forceful and try to score a lot more.

Also, they got a lot of injuries this season as well so that is another topic they were unlucky about, if they give in enough time they should be doing fine. Change the manager and roll it again next season and I bet that it will do a lot better, I do not think that they are going to end up with a worse result, they should be doing fine in the end.

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Quote from: Farma on March 28, 2024, 11:23:05 AM

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on March 28, 2024, 04:25:36 AM

In my opinion, however, if there is a culprit, it is Massimiliano Allegri. The club set him up with a team to win the championship, he has no commitments in European competitions, and he is currently in third place in Serie A. Many victories were achieved in the last minutes without ever dominating a match and for me this is a failure. He was supposed to dominate the championship instead he finds himself fighting not to lose even the fourth place. I wish you that the next coach will be a coach who brings you to fight to win the Scudetto

In fact, the season went very badly from this point of view, there was contributory blame but in my opinion it wasnt entirely his fault.

Not because I want to defend him at all costs, but something is not working in the team and if the mechanism has a broken piece nothing will work. My opinion.

This season Juventus can be better than last season, so there is indeed positive progress and also internally the Juventus team has a lot of problems so Massimiliano Allegri cannot be completely blamed.

Massimiliano Allegri is a great coach and he has led Juventus to win the Scudetto which indicates that the quality of Massimiliano Allegri's coaching is quite good, so because of that I also think there are many other problems that have an impact on the team's performance.

Allegri is the best coach for Juventus right now but the club has so many problems that I doubt this team will be able to hold top 4 until end of the season. I also don't think Juventus they deserve to play in UCL next season as the current team they have is for Europa League level. I must be a bit harsh on this but this is my personal opinion about Juventus this year and how the club is preparing for the next one.

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Quote from: giammangiato on March 28, 2024, 08:24:07 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on March 28, 2024, 04:25:36 AM

In my opinion, however, if there is a culprit, it is Massimiliano Allegri. The club set him up with a team to win the championship, he has no commitments in European competitions, and he is currently in third place in Serie A. Many victories were achieved in the last minutes without ever dominating a match and for me this is a failure. He was supposed to dominate the championship instead he finds himself fighting not to lose even the fourth place. I wish you that the next coach will be a coach who brings you to fight to win the Scudetto

In fact, the season went very badly from this point of view, there was contributory blame but in my opinion it wasnt entirely his fault.

Not because I want to defend him at all costs, but something is not working in the team and if the mechanism has a broken piece nothing will work. My opinion.

This season Juventus can be better than last season, so there is indeed positive progress and also internally the Juventus team has a lot of problems so Massimiliano Allegri cannot be completely blamed.

Massimiliano Allegri is a great coach and he has led Juventus to win the Scudetto which indicates that the quality of Massimiliano Allegri's coaching is quite good, so because of that I also think there are many other problems that have an impact on the team's performance.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on March 27, 2024, 10:58:06 PM

Spending money on players who have great skills is not loss, and every team needs time to change after the bad conditions they have experienced.
Last season Juventus had series of problems that made things difficult for them and now they are back again, able to have much better performance so they can become one of the team at the top.
We all know that Juventus has well-supported resources and they can get lot of big names in every transfer market, it is long-term investment which in my opinion can be profitable but not immediately.
If this is loss then all team will also experience losses, but in reality many team can still develop very well.

in some cases the expense was just a mere commercial operation, for example in the case of Juventus with CR7 it was a single commercial operation, the sheer quantity of t-shirts and gadgets repaid the cost of Cristiano Ronaldo. In fact the player only stayed for one year but is investment not a cost

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on March 28, 2024, 04:25:36 AM

In my opinion, however, if there is a culprit, it is Massimiliano Allegri. The club set him up with a team to win the championship, he has no commitments in European competitions, and he is currently in third place in Serie A. Many victories were achieved in the last minutes without ever dominating a match and for me this is a failure. He was supposed to dominate the championship instead he finds himself fighting not to lose even the fourth place. I wish you that the next coach will be a coach who brings you to fight to win the Scudetto

In fact, the season went very badly from this point of view, there was contributory blame but in my opinion it wasnt entirely his fault.

Not because I want to defend him at all costs, but something is not working in the team and if the mechanism has a broken piece nothing will work. My opinion.

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However in terms of Juventus performance I agree with you that they were able to sustain there performance a bit as most of there players are injured but there consistency was not enough because the pressure was much on them and besides it was actually very difficult for them to perform the way they normally do because most of those injured players covers big role on the club that there absence could affect the team, so that's why I believe that the injured players contributed to there poor performance.

Injuries can significantly impact a team's performance, and Juventus has indeed faced challenges with several key players being sidelined. Injuries are an inevitable part of sports, their impact on Juventus, with its high standards and expectations, can be particularly significant. It's understandable to attribute some of the team's poor performances to the absence of key players due to injury. When crucial players are absent due to injuries, it can disrupt the team's rhythm and affect their ability to maintain consistency on the field. These players have pivotal roles within the squad, and their absence can create gaps that are difficult to fill adequately.

Also the consistency of Inter puts more pressure on them. The pressure on the remaining players to compensate for the missing key players is too big. They may feel the weight of expectations from fans, coaches, and even themselves to step up and deliver results despite the setbacks. This added pressure can sometimes lead to inconsistencies in performance, because the team struggles to adapt to the altered dynamics and find their footing without their injured teammates.

in my opinion there is a lot to change at Juventus, certainly a change of coach could be a wake-up call but there are also other sectors to revolutionize, I've always said it: the athletic trainer doesn't seem as good as he seems and therefore the team has some performances really poor from that point of view

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It is very likely that Max Allegri will no longer be the coach of Juventus next year, given the poor results so far I don't think the club wants to continue to invest in him, but I wonder who the replacement could be? Osimhen will leave even with the qualification to the next Champions League, last summer he already wanted to leave as he had been repeatedly approached by PSG, rather I have the feeling that Kvaraskhelia could also say goodbye to Napoli.

Next year will be a year of many changes
I cant say that I am happy to see him go, after all he is a good coach and I am verry sorry
I am convinced that the poor results are not his fault but a lot of bad luck, for example last season there was the terrible punishment of not playing the cups. Not Allegri fault.

In my opinion, however, if there is a culprit, it is Massimiliano Allegri. The club set him up with a team to win the championship, he has no commitments in European competitions, and he is currently in third place in Serie A. Many victories were achieved in the last minutes without ever dominating a match and for me this is a failure. He was supposed to dominate the championship instead he finds himself fighting not to lose even the fourth place. I wish you that the next coach will be a coach who brings you to fight to win the Scudetto

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Quote from: bastisisca on March 27, 2024, 09:49:06 AM

Quote from: giammangiato on March 26, 2024, 12:20:37 PM

Many teams in all leagues are in debt, the only ones are the super loved ones, which have very strong companies behind them that spend money on famous names, but these companies are more companies than football teams, they spend and do things wisely, see Real Madrid for example, just one name.

Yes, what you say is true, but I think perhaps that in Italy we have the worst situation given that even very usual teams, like the team you support: Juventus, are in financial problems.
I am not saying they risk bankruptcy, but they have to do the math carefully since they are not making money but rather losing money.

Spending money on players who have great skills is not loss, and every team needs time to change after the bad conditions they have experienced.
Last season Juventus had series of problems that made things difficult for them and now they are back again, able to have much better performance so they can become one of the team at the top.
We all know that Juventus has well-supported resources and they can get lot of big names in every transfer market, it is long-term investment which in my opinion can be profitable but not immediately.
If this is loss then all team will also experience losses, but in reality many team can still develop very well.

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Quote from: Salahmu on March 27, 2024, 11:25:26 AM

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However in terms of Juventus performance I agree with you that they were able to sustain there performance a bit as most of there players are injured but there consistency was not enough because the pressure was much on them and besides it was actually very difficult for them to perform the way they normally do because most of those injured players covers big role on the club that there absence could affect the team, so that's why I believe that the injured players contributed to there poor performance.

Injuries can significantly impact a team's performance, and Juventus has indeed faced challenges with several key players being sidelined. Injuries are an inevitable part of sports, their impact on Juventus, with its high standards and expectations, can be particularly significant. It's understandable to attribute some of the team's poor performances to the absence of key players due to injury. When crucial players are absent due to injuries, it can disrupt the team's rhythm and affect their ability to maintain consistency on the field. These players have pivotal roles within the squad, and their absence can create gaps that are difficult to fill adequately.

Also the consistency of Inter puts more pressure on them. The pressure on the remaining players to compensate for the missing key players is too big. They may feel the weight of expectations from fans, coaches, and even themselves to step up and deliver results despite the setbacks. This added pressure can sometimes lead to inconsistencies in performance, because the team struggles to adapt to the altered dynamics and find their footing without their injured teammates.

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It is very likely that Max Allegri will no longer be the coach of Juventus next year, given the poor results so far I don't think the club wants to continue to invest in him, but I wonder who the replacement could be? Osimhen will leave even with the qualification to the next Champions League, last summer he already wanted to leave as he had been repeatedly approached by PSG, rather I have the feeling that Kvaraskhelia could also say goodbye to Napoli.

If the board decide to sack him I think they should think about bringing Conte. He already has a lovely history with Juventus and he would be one of the best choices.

Apart from that I really like Juventus as for defending. They are currently the second least conceding team in the Serie A. However their being really poor at scoring pushes them out of a title rivalry. Sad

New transfers are a must for Juventus from now on. They need more productive players. They can't get enough goal contribution from their midfielders especially. After increasing their revenues by the end of the season they should immediately focus on this.

I mean they should definitely consider sacking him, he looks like the type of manager that is not bringing the success they expected of him. I think Juventus could do much better, and with what they have as players they are doing much better in the end, they will eventually win the title, but it is not going to be all that easy.

This should not be that simple, it should be something that will take a while, and because of that I believe that we are going to see some changes here and there. But that is me, if they change the manager, some of the staff, and do better training maybe they won't have this many injured players neither, which is why I believe that we are going to see them do a lot better eventually.

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Quote from: giammangiato on March 27, 2024, 10:33:07 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on March 27, 2024, 02:31:37 AM

It is very likely that Max Allegri will no longer be the coach of Juventus next year, given the poor results so far I don't think the club wants to continue to invest in him, but I wonder who the replacement could be? Osimhen will leave even with the qualification to the next Champions League, last summer he already wanted to leave as he had been repeatedly approached by PSG, rather I have the feeling that Kvaraskhelia could also say goodbye to Napoli.

Next year will be a year of many changes
I cant say that I am happy to see him go, after all he is a good coach and I am verry sorry
I am convinced that the poor results are not his fault but a lot of bad luck, for example last season there was the terrible punishment of not playing the cups. Not Allegri fault.

Yes, its not entirely Allegri fault, and he also couldnt get the star players he wanted in the 2023/2024 season because Juve only able to play in domestic competitions.
However, maybe he still has a chance to stay until his contract expires, as long as he can bring Juve to win the Coppa Italia.
The rumors spreading now are that Zidane or Conte will become the next Juve manager.

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Injuries really had a role in Juventus to get worse. I mean Juventus already don't have a very impressive squad I'm afraid. When they struggle with injuries too things are just turning into a nightmare.

Indeed Juventus has been going through a lot of injuries if not they would have surely go far more than the way they are now because it has affected there performance that there last three matches has been a sad one for them, although somehow they tried for a club that been having some injuries to still maintain the current position they are. Although there is still chance for them to compete with AC Milan on the second position because even if Juventus may have not been on there best performance this season but they surely have an advantage over there upcoming matches because most of those matches may likely not going to trouble them too much because they have a good advantage of wining especially there upcoming match against Lazio they will possibly win Lazio because they have more quality players than Lazio but if they are not consistent on this matches they will not have a chance to compete with AC Milan on the the second position.

At the start of the season, Juventus' performance was quite good, even since the start of the season they have experienced this problem, but this has not had a significant effect on their performance because there are supporting players who are able to cover it and maintain team stability. The large number of injured players is not a reason in my opinion, but it is. Their motivation had decreased when they were unable to compete with Inter Milan in the race for the Scudetto and this bad thing continued to happen for a long time so that up to now they have not been able to recover.

For the opportunity to compete with AC MIlan in the battle for 2nd place, I think there is no longer a possibility for Juventus, the two teams are in different performance trends, AC Milan is on fire and Juventus is in decline.
Now Juventus must get up and focus on maintaining their position to finish in the top 4, that's enough in my opinion.

Indeed AC Milan is currently on fire because they are no longer on the trend of Juventus in this league, so Juventus has lost the opportunity of competing with them and besides Ac Milan is very lucky because there remaining matches will not be that strong for them especially there next match against Fiorentina is very certain they will win the match and which will also improve there points the more, I really commend on Ac Milan performance this season because even if they no that there points will never be enough to compete with Inter Milan on the first position and also knowing that Juventus can never be a threat to them on the second position but they never underestimated any club and they always maintain there good performance.

However in terms of Juventus performance I agree with you that they were able to sustain there performance a bit as most of there players are injured but there consistency was not enough because the pressure was much on them and besides it was actually very difficult for them to perform the way they normally do because most of those injured players covers big role on the club that there absence could affect the team, so that's why I believe that the injured players contributed to there poor performance.

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