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What I'd like to see is an explanation for the "CAN electronics" stunt.
sr. member
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dafq is goin on
Tom actually answered my email today, so that worked.
hero member
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..yeah
If anyone emails me I will reply today.

Maybe this time you do, lets see. Last 5 emails got ignored, like always
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Hello!
Hello Tom/Cablepair, since your ASIC project fell through. Please show us evidence that you actually had started with the project. Any details will help of course. You always kept quiet about the entire project, did you have an ASIC protype that hashed until they didn't hash anymore (died). Can you show us any proof at all that you actually had anything other than good intentions?

I had an order with you for 1 unit, which you did refund. I would just like to see proof you actually had a project, and it wasn't all just words to get more orders. If you actually showed proof of your project, even though it failed. Maybe people would be a little easier on you.
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anybody searching for Tom, this will help you identify the correct one;

Thomas Van Riper birth date: 02-xx-81

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To get the ball rolling, for those of you who have had enough, here are some places to file a formal complaint:

I do not believe there is a requirement to be a citizen of the United States to file a complaint at some of these offices.

Federal Trade Commission:
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?lang=en

NY Dept of State
https://www.dos.ny.gov/consumerprotection/form/complaintform.asp

NY Attorney General Online Complaint System
http://www.ag.ny.gov/internet-bureau-online-complaint-form

Internet Crime Complaint Center - Read the FAQ https://www.ic3.gov/faq/default.aspx
https://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx

Reminder:
Invoices were from:
Thomas Van Riper
BTCFPGA
PO Box 246
Hannibal, NY 13074

315-514-0269

[email protected]
hero member
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WTF???
Tom, what keeps you from posting a list of order number with a refund status and maintain that list in public?


If it wasn't already clear, I pointed that out. If he does that, the list of refunds is probably larger than those that are bugging him. If he can get a few people that are really mad calmed down, likely some people have given up and their orders never need to be refunded.

Also, 100 BTC on the way. Woohoo! A whopping $4500! It would be interesting to see how long the to do list is. If it's 1000 to go, and he can do 3 a week, everyone will be refunded in 6 years. Not too bad.
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Tom, what keeps you from posting a list of order number with a refund status and maintain that list in public?
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Update: I submitted more information this past Friday to the lawyer I have hired in this action. No further news is available at this point.
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I'm sorry your angry. I fucked up. I poorly managed this business. I completely fucked it up and its my fault but I did not do it with the intention of scamming anyone.


I will admit that although my FPGA business was going well until they became obsolete, I was way out of my league when it came to making an ASIC - I fucked it up, I ruined my business and if it makes you feel any better I feel like a piece of shit every day.


I should have a couple hundred BTC by the end of the day - the entirety of that will go to refunds.

There's nothing I can do other than pay people back and believe me or not I will continue to do so util everyone is paid.

I am sorry about my attitude, I did not mean to come off like that - please everyone can you find it in your heart to forgive me for my poor attitude. This is a very humbling experience for me.

When I feel like  I am being attacked - I tend to act immaturely and fight back and I am truly sorry.

Your right its no ones fault but my own that this happened but you can ask the people I was working with I never once had the intentions of scamming anyone. There's no point in it for me, I made nothing from this and I am spending my own money to pay it back.

I don't want you to feel sorry for me I dont want pity I just want you to work with me.

thanks to those who can feel at least some empathy towards me. My wallet has 36920  blocks left to download and then the refunds will begin.


So instead of doing the right thing and showing what is still owed and the plan to pay it back, you whine that people are attacking you.

You're so deserving of the blue ribbon. Does that make you feel better?


I am sorry if I left this out, I have purchased a couple hundred BTC and have some more on the way - As soon as my block chain downloads
34700 left to download now I will begin todays refunds. If anyone emails me I will reply today.
Everyone will be refunded starting in 3400 or so blocks - people will post confirmations today. I hope this is enough information for you
Im not going to bicker with anyone Im just going to refund them, I dont care about the scammer tag anymore have a nice day.


Try posting the order # each time you refund someone.
legendary
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Glad to see people are willing to take legal action, will this be the first bitcoin suite? (apart from bitcoinica's which appears to be going nowhere)

EDIT: you could one more poll option - I am just an observer curious how it ends.
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I'm sorry your angry. I fucked up. I poorly managed this business. I completely fucked it up and its my fault but I did not do it with the intention of scamming anyone.
Yes, we are angry, we are also very disappointed in how you have behaved.

I will admit that although my FPGA business was going well until they became obsolete, I was way out of my league when it came to making an ASIC - I fucked it up, I ruined my business and if it makes you feel any better I feel like a piece of shit every day.
No it does not.

I should have a couple hundred BTC by the end of the day - the entirety of that will go to refunds.

There's nothing I can do other than pay people back and believe me or not I will continue to do so util everyone is paid.
Give us a plan of action.
I am sorry about my attitude, I did not mean to come off like that - please everyone can you find it in your heart to forgive me for my poor attitude. This is a very humbling experience for me.

When I feel like  I am being attacked - I tend to act immaturely and fight back and I am truly sorry.
The only way to forgiveness is atonement, time to act like an adult and face people directly and honestly.

Your right its no ones fault but my own that this happened but you can ask the people I was working with I never once had the intentions of scamming anyone. There's no point in it for me, I made nothing from this and I am spending my own money to pay it back.
You used the pre-order money after you stated that you had not or would not. In my book, that's embezzlement.

I don't want you to feel sorry for me I dont want pity I just want you to work with me.

thanks to those who can feel at least some empathy towards me. My wallet has 36920  blocks left to download and then the refunds will begin.
This is business, you wanted to play with the big boys, you failed to follow up and hid like an abused child. Time to man up and make things right.
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WTF???
I am sorry if I left this out, I have purchased a couple hundred BTC and have some more on the way - As soon as my block chain downloads
34700 left to download now I will begin todays refunds. If anyone emails me I will reply today.
Everyone will be refunded starting in 3400 or so blocks - people will post confirmations today. I hope this is enough information for you
Im not going to bicker with anyone Im just going to refund them, I dont care about the scammer tag anymore have a nice day.



And you still won't consider posting order numbers or even amounts that need to be refunded? Because... ? You're hoping some of the people have given up and your debt is no longer valid with them?
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Buy this account on March-2019. New Owner here!!
I'm sorry your angry. I fucked up. I poorly managed this business. I completely fucked it up and its my fault but I did not do it with the intention of scamming anyone.


I will admit that although my FPGA business was going well until they became obsolete, I was way out of my league when it came to making an ASIC - I fucked it up, I ruined my business and if it makes you feel any better I feel like a piece of shit every day.


I should have a couple hundred BTC by the end of the day - the entirety of that will go to refunds.

There's nothing I can do other than pay people back and believe me or not I will continue to do so util everyone is paid.

I am sorry about my attitude, I did not mean to come off like that - please everyone can you find it in your heart to forgive me for my poor attitude. This is a very humbling experience for me.

When I feel like  I am being attacked - I tend to act immaturely and fight back and I am truly sorry.

Your right its no ones fault but my own that this happened but you can ask the people I was working with I never once had the intentions of scamming anyone. There's no point in it for me, I made nothing from this and I am spending my own money to pay it back.

I don't want you to feel sorry for me I dont want pity I just want you to work with me.

thanks to those who can feel at least some empathy towards me. My wallet has 36920  blocks left to download and then the refunds will begin.


So instead of doing the right thing and showing what is still owed and the plan to pay it back, you whine that people are attacking you.

You're so deserving of the blue ribbon. Does that make you feel better?


I am sorry if I left this out, I have purchased a couple hundred BTC and have some more on the way - As soon as my block chain downloads
34700 left to download now I will begin todays refunds. If anyone emails me I will reply today.
Everyone will be refunded starting in 3400 or so blocks - people will post confirmations today. I hope this is enough information for you
Im not going to bicker with anyone Im just going to refund them, I dont care about the scammer tag anymore have a nice day.

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Its odd because the vast majority of people have been refunded.


I'm labeled a scammer - yet I have refunded over a million dollars customers

yes OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.


Credit Cards that were charged backed and 100k to one person who did a wire transfer (if you didn't it could be considered wire fraud).
 
would a scammer refund this large amount of money? I don't think so. I work every day to get people refunded
i have several people i am talking to over email daily to try and work something out.

Have them post here. You haven't communicated to anyone directly that you still owe BTC refunds to. You have all of the email addresses. The only communication I have seen are your post here, apologizing for you failures and trying to convince people to have sympathy for your position.

this fork has made it very difficult

When .8 came out I installed it and It immediately corrupted my wallet (thanks devs) Tongue


originally i thought my hard drive was bad, so I bought a new one and painstakingly backed everything up and moved everything over
now FINALLY after many days of release the devs decide they should tell us they fucked up (thanks)
today I downloaded .7 and have been patiently waiting for my blockchain to download, im not sure if I will continue refunds or just buy a big crack rock and smoke it in a cave some where

Another chicken dung excuse. You've been around long enough to know how to back up your wallet.

but I am totally offended by this scammer tag. Anyone who knows me or knows the history of Btcfpga knows it is NOT warranted

I am NOT A SCAMMER. and anyone who knows me, knows this.

if I was a scammer I could be living it up easy some place warm instead of braving the same upstate new york winters I have been for 30+ years

btw: while we are on the topic who gave me the tag? What small dick mini mod gave me this without any proof what so ever?HuhHuhHuhHuh?

i would love to know....

Your actions or better yet, your lack of action is what gave you the scammer tag. Try reading the thread - it clearly shows who tagged you as a scammer.

you can email me at [email protected] and we can either work something out or you can be a part of the bankrupcy case - which should be interesting considering the recent fork.

The recent fork will have no bearing on it,

my attorney has compiled an immense amount of proof that this was nothing even resembling a scam and I welcome anyone who should attempt to prove this wrong to show up to court. I will certainly post the details of the bankruptcy court date as soon as we have one set.

one issue i have to face . i promised payments every friday and I kept those up until I ran out of bitcoins. If anyone has any idea how I can buy a large amount of bitcoins please message me. The largest amount I can buy from bitinstant is $500 worth ive looked and looked and its near impossible to make a large bitcoin purchase anywhere. IF anyone has any Ideas I would love to hear them.

You again show another one of your statements as false.

i have contributed more to this community than most ever will. By isolating me you are losing someone who really cared about Bitcoin and worked every day to contribute to it. I am truly sorry the bASIC project failed. I would do anything to take it back. BFL has failed as well but at least I have the balls to admit it and not pretend like everything is OK and continue to hold your money for what amost a year now?   Sonny is a ball-less bitch and Josh, James and all of his other lackeys should be ashamed of themselves for promoting a TRUE scam. Maybe I was not able to do what I claimed I could do, but at LEAST I have the balls to admit it and am working my ass off to make it right.
I do not care about your opinion of BFL or it's people, good for you and your contributions, you can add them to your resume, this is strictly business.

To the ignorant assholes who have no fucking clue about this true Bitcoin man who contributed years of his life to this cause I got a message for you....  FUCK YOU.
Your arrogance precedes you.
to my customers dont worry - if you havent received your refund yet either work with me on it or Ill see you in bankruptcy court.

Take care and good luck Bitcoin - this fork is one of the best things that could of happened to me.

Again, another attempt to negate your obligations.

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WTF???
I'm sorry your angry. I fucked up. I poorly managed this business. I completely fucked it up and its my fault but I did not do it with the intention of scamming anyone.


I will admit that although my FPGA business was going well until they became obsolete, I was way out of my league when it came to making an ASIC - I fucked it up, I ruined my business and if it makes you feel any better I feel like a piece of shit every day.


I should have a couple hundred BTC by the end of the day - the entirety of that will go to refunds.

There's nothing I can do other than pay people back and believe me or not I will continue to do so util everyone is paid.

I am sorry about my attitude, I did not mean to come off like that - please everyone can you find it in your heart to forgive me for my poor attitude. This is a very humbling experience for me.

When I feel like  I am being attacked - I tend to act immaturely and fight back and I am truly sorry.

Your right its no ones fault but my own that this happened but you can ask the people I was working with I never once had the intentions of scamming anyone. There's no point in it for me, I made nothing from this and I am spending my own money to pay it back.

I don't want you to feel sorry for me I dont want pity I just want you to work with me.

thanks to those who can feel at least some empathy towards me. My wallet has 36920  blocks left to download and then the refunds will begin.


So instead of doing the right thing and showing what is still owed and the plan to pay it back, you whine that people are attacking you.

You're so deserving of the blue ribbon. Does that make you feel better?
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
Buy this account on March-2019. New Owner here!!
I'm sorry your angry. I fucked up. I poorly managed this business. I completely fucked it up and its my fault but I did not do it with the intention of scamming anyone.


I will admit that although my FPGA business was going well until they became obsolete, I was way out of my league when it came to making an ASIC - I fucked it up, I ruined my business and if it makes you feel any better I feel like a piece of shit every day.


I should have a couple hundred BTC by the end of the day - the entirety of that will go to refunds.

There's nothing I can do other than pay people back and believe me or not I will continue to do so util everyone is paid.

I am sorry about my attitude, I did not mean to come off like that - please everyone can you find it in your heart to forgive me for my poor attitude. This is a very humbling experience for me.

When I feel like  I am being attacked - I tend to act immaturely and fight back and I am truly sorry.

Your right its no ones fault but my own that this happened but you can ask the people I was working with I never once had the intentions of scamming anyone. There's no point in it for me, I made nothing from this and I am spending my own money to pay it back.

I don't want you to feel sorry for me I dont want pity I just want you to work with me.

thanks to those who can feel at least some empathy towards me. My wallet has 36920  blocks left to download and then the refunds will begin.







hero member
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WTF???
This thread has 179 posts with 7080 views to date. Why is there only 12 votes total in the poll? I'm finding this tidbit rather odd.
Maybe because not everyone wants to sue Tom?

You'd be getting nothing if any other business folded... at least he's trying to refund everyone.
Did he file for bankruptcy protection?
Maybe he should have. Obviously trying to send customers refunds ASAP isn't making people happy.

If he intends to pay everyone back, then people may want a judgement to secure that promise. If he is paying back everyone, what is taking so long if he did in fact hold all the btc?
The claim that he held Bitcoins is a troll myth. I'm not aware of any evidence he did.

You have no evidence that he didn't.

Wow... BURNED!
sr. member
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dafq is goin on
Another email sent to tom. The scammer shall vanish, but only if evry1 is repaid. I was not refunded yet.
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This thread has 179 posts with 7080 views to date. Why is there only 12 votes total in the poll? I'm finding this tidbit rather odd.
Maybe because not everyone wants to sue Tom?

You'd be getting nothing if any other business folded... at least he's trying to refund everyone.
Did he file for bankruptcy protection?
Maybe he should have. Obviously trying to send customers refunds ASAP isn't making people happy.

If he intends to pay everyone back, then people may want a judgement to secure that promise. If he is paying back everyone, what is taking so long if he did in fact hold all the btc?
The claim that he held Bitcoins is a troll myth. I'm not aware of any evidence he did.

You have no evidence that he didn't.
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