Topic: Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT) - page 2. (Read 513 times)

this is the point I'm looking for. Very Valueable lines. Actually any Project can turns into scam. Hunters and managers have nothing to do with it. So for you or other managers like roycilik.
 But it's very redicuous when a Reputable DT2 Manager Bringing a project and Keep promoting that For 6months like SWGT, bringing rounds after Rounds Without confirming previous round payment. But Keep promoting the project due to he is getting his service fee, that's wrong in my opinion. A manager should be sincere, should think about Hunters as well as investors instead of promoting scam projects months after months for money without checking or remain silent after knowing the truth, that's bad. That's the point



Wah then you are legally right. According to your statements, Now managers can freely taking fees by promoting any kind Scam project ever months after months. Just need to Put such Disclaimer to hide their ass. That's all. Really appreciate this scamming idea

You expect nothing? Then why even bother posting here?  

Give an example, or you are just an annoying lying chap.

Hey, I looked through the different thread but saw no such update. if there's something going on, then I think it would have been better if the participants knew. You should have posted such screenshots in those 4 threads.

Secondly, If I were you, I would have opened a scam accusation against those chaps after the deadline passed to protect the advertising brand.

Thirdly, What is the point of not arranging to escrow tokens that are to be distributed to the bounty participants regardless of the outcomes? I mean, they are not yet worth any value anyway. If they don't trust the work of the campaign Manager, then they should do all the work themselves instead of wasting people's time.

I endorse this now and will be doing it going forward.

There's so much uncertainty when the team has made no commitment and there's no guarantee they would, so the manager and the bounty participants bear all of the risk.

Escrowing a fraction of the bounty valuation will be a good step to attract trust.

Reminds me of a bounty I ran awhile back where the team was supposed to pay after the TGE but severed all connection with me a month before the TGE. Might be the same team running the same scam. All the bounty hunters were never made whole.

Honestly, if a team approaches you with this sort of proposal and says they'll pay after the TGE, ALL managers should refuse the job. ALL bounty hunters should not participate either. Make the team escrow a large amount of money if they want to run a bounty, then take the chance.

Oh WOW
@holydarkness, thanks for noticing me

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Guess who this guy is? Without telling your real account, I can already guess it, if you ask when the bounty payment will be, I have answered many times in the telegram, that they haven't given any certainty, If you ask in their Telegram group, the regular admins won't know, I deal with the marketing team, not the admin.

If I haven't received an update about the payment yet, should I be required to buy the token and distribute to you? Give me your account that joined the campaign, and I'll check how many tokens you got, and I will pay you,
If it's just to pay for one account, I think I can still afford it, but it's difficult if you have more than one

Here is my conversation with the marketing team,
I'm still trying to get the bounty payment, but unfortunately, they are still silent until now.






Do with your own risk

[An ancient glyph suddenly glows deep purple in the dark]
[An... uhh, pinkish smoke enamated from the runic circle]
[why pink?]

I am summoned and at the forum's service.


The exact question that crossed my mind when I read this thread, the four threads being referenced, as well as all 50 messages with "bounty" keyword on SWGT TG channel.

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Exposer one, is there any claim that the BM already secured the payment? Be it escrowed or in his own wallet? I can't find any of this statement anywhere. Nor can I find the bounty channel by Roycilik. Is there any? Kindly point me out to the channel if there is one, I might be able to learn and get answers on one or two things that I currently have in my mind.

From the very lack supporting information that I can gather so far, though, there is a chance that roycilik, as the BM himself, has not secured the payment and was promised that the payment will be done by SWGT team. And, regarding the answer to ask for questions regarding payment to "bitcointalk management" I well noticed that these answers are given by people labelled "chat volunteer", which I assume means they're not part of the team and quite likely are clueless of what transpires between roycilik and the marketing team, as well as whatever marketing strategy they've deployed.

And, has roycilik been notified about this thread? Granted, his name is being mentioned several times and there is a chance that he uses TG bot notifier [which long time member doesn't these days?], but there is also a chance that he's oblivious about this thread discussing him [hey, maybe he's one that didn't know the tg notif bot exist].

It'll only be fair to ensure that the counterparty of a situation to be notified and invited to give their side. I'll nudge him through PM as I see that he's currently online.

This is the normal reply of team member that doesn’t have clear overview about the topic. He probably knew that someone is handling the campaign that’s why he keeps pointing finger but there’s always a specific team member who is in touch with the bounty manager which is exclusive for both of them.

Probably the admin that released that statement doesn’t knew that funds is not being held by the campaign manager or they are pointing fingers now to avoid payment responsibility.

That's fine but my argument still stands, when he talks about a manager with reputation he is referring to one with green tags, regardless his DT status.

Would like to share a opinion what Jawhead999 wrote me earlier in this thread.

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why you making this complex instead of focusing main points? I dont wanna make shit posting about this. So i edit the comment. In Bitcointalk, red trust and green trust do matter. So most of people here will trust a person who have green tags instead of him who doesn't have any. And  people will trust more if a person belongs to DT1 of DT2 instead of him who even have many green trusts. This is my opinion. It may wrong but whatever? Focus on main part

You are confused on this. If people trust someone to work with them it is usually because of the green tags, which have nothing to do with the DT status, and which is also difficult to check if you are a newbie, but green tags can be seen right away.

Apart from this, what do you mean "fruad"?

 I'm not forcing anyone to tag him. Even i don't expect anything. Just share this issue with community. That's it

You can upload image on talkimg.com and post the image link here. Newbie is allowed to post link here. You are just not allowed to post direct image BBcode but high rank user can simply quote your bbcode image post to make it visible.

Again, post the complete conversation with team to verify your statement authenticity. This is a big accusation you are trying to do here.

With the way you made this report. You already sound biased, as though DT members won't help you. So many other reputable members have been tagged before due to fraud if information is brought forward and carefully scrutinized.

Don't expect people to rush tagging roycilik without hearing his side of the story and I do hope he comes to this thread to clear up the issues at hand.

That being said

1. Did you try sending a message to the CM about the delayed payments? What was his response… The screenshots could help. You are the one who brought up this case here, so you need to share all the information instead of pushing members to go looking for Telegram groups

2. Why did you continue participating in a bounty whose first payments were delayed?

Good points. Bounty projects can scam. It's very normal. I don't have any objections about that.  

But the problem is "reputable Manager Like him who keep posted SWGT bounties till round 4, even without clearing previous bounty payment. Give people Assurance to continue work for his DT membership but he still remain silent about this project  Because he kept receiving his payment. Isn't it insane? The interesting fact is, lots of months have gone but He didn't tagged any of his SWGT bounty Thread as scammed yet.

If another manager had done that, they would have already been tagged with negative feedback after just round 1 ... But nobody talk about him yet!!!! And thus things goes on

Due to newbie rank I've obstacles to post outside links and others thing in comment. Even i know less about how to archive post, how to post images etc.

But i already mentioned the SWGT Telegram group link below in this thread (You can verify from Roycilik bounty Thread SWGT social links) . You can ask about Bounty payment once again in their main Group. Can talk with admins. Or just search "Bounty" word in their channel too see all bounty related previous discussion. Thanks

That’s why you should always read the disclaimer. Campaign manager here is always not affiliated on a crypto project especially reputable user here.

Your accusation was right if Roycilik mention that he is holding the funds and he will distribute it personally. He already done his part to run the campaign so the rest is on the team including the distribution.

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However, we really need @roycilik personal opinion here since the OP is claiming that the team said that the funds was sent to @Roycilik already. @OP can you provide screenshots for this statement of the team?

Summoning boss @holydarkness.

I don't really know if the project has been distributed the reward or not, but look at the bottom bounty thread, he has stated if he's not a core team of the project. Also he didn't escrow the reward, so it's belong to the owner.

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It's because there's a difference between an campaign manager without reputation and the one with reputation. Campaign manager mostly focus in counting the participants' posts/verify the application and distribute the reward if they have it. A campaign manager without reputation is more likelier just want to exit scam.

 with due respect,
why should i need to have multiple accusation against him when this one is true? It's like, if anyone did one murder, you just wanna let him go cause he didn't have more than one murder record???
Well, I didn't investigate about him more what had he done in past. Even I'm not so good at such investigation. I just mentioned about what he did with SWGT bounty participators. Now its upto the community members and investigators

If the scam accusation is proven true, then for sure, DT members will leave a negative trust on the user. But the question is, has there been any prior scam accusation against the user aside from the one you made? If none, then everything will depend on the legitimacy of the scam accusation you’ve raised. The evidence you provide will be the deciding factor here.

Name: roycilik
Rank: Legendary
BTT Profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/roycilik-1051955

Issue:  Roycilik is involved with A bounty scam.
campaign Name:  Smart World Global Token (SWGT)

Greeting everyone. Bitcointalk helps new people a lot to know about cryptocurrencies. And Members always concern about scammers to safe innocent new members from them..

roycilik brought a bounty campaign named Smart World Global Token (SWGT) in January, 2024 , 1month long project And mentioned Payment will be sent after TGE. Then he Brought another round and keep doing the same thing. Mentioned that, payment will be send after 2 months later in thread but TGE was done, listing was done long ago, 6 months bounties were running and another 6 months have gone. But nothing is paid yet.

Some members talk about this issue in main SWGT group. Admins told that, Roycilik is responsible for everything. We are clear from our side. They even Had Btc paid signature projects which was handled smoothly. So Talk with roycilik. but roycilik keep ignoring this issue as if nothing is happened.
Bounty project can be scammed, team can cheat. That's okey. But what if a careless and selfish manager continuously posted bounties without confirming the payment but have a relax with his weekly fees. Isn't that great??? I created this thread only for this reason.

But nobody talk against him as he is dt2 member. I saw DT members gave negative trust many bounty managers when project got scammed. But rarely saw they gave red trust to another dt member even having solid proof. I don't except justice. Just posted this to let the community know that was happened. Thanks

[Round 1(4weeks long in January): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5482620

[Round 2 (4weeks long in February): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/finsmart-world-global-token-signature-binance-usdt-prize-pool-4-weeks-5487006

[Round 3(8weeks long in April): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/finswgt-signature-bounty-usdt-prize-pool-8-weeks-limited-40-participants-5491882

[Round 4(4weeks long but stopped after 2 weeks): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/swgt-signature-bounty-4-weeks-limited-20-participants-round-4-5500078

Sgwt telegram: https://t.me/swgt_chat