Legendary Manager roycilik and his scam bounties Smart World Global Token (SWGT)

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Quote from: Igebotz on December 06, 2024, 03:35:12 PM

Quote from: holydarkness on December 06, 2024, 01:54:19 PM

roycilik can't pay you if he didn't know who you are on his participant list, as he don't know how much he owed you. So...

If he agrees to pay one UID, others will emerge asking their own portion as well. That is the one limitation to this, and it would be unfair to settle one UID while ignoring others if they start flooding here. The ideal solution is for Roycilik to keep doing his best to collect the shit tokens while updating hunters on frequently

yeah. You are absolutely right.

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Quote from: holydarkness on December 06, 2024, 01:54:19 PM

roycilik can't pay you if he didn't know who you are on his participant list, as he don't know how much he owed you. So...

If he agrees to pay one UID, others will emerge asking their own portion as well. That is the one limitation to this, and it would be unfair to settle one UID while ignoring others if they start flooding here. The ideal solution is for Roycilik to keep doing his best to collect the shit tokens while updating hunters on frequently.

roycilik already mentioned that he knows who the OP real account is somewhere on the first page.

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Quote from: holydarkness on December 05, 2024, 02:12:37 PM

Completely irrelevant to the case and [IMO] barely contributive to an absolute resolution/outcome of the case, but since several people mentioned about OP's main account... it's actually not that hard to find. OP did not do a good attempt to sever any connection between this second account from his main one. Force of habit and all.

Come to my mind, though, roycilik, you want his real UID so you can personally compensate him from your own personal wallet? I can't be 100% sure it's his, given it took me just minute to cross-reference several things and tie both account, but I'm quite confident.

I'll share it here, and OP can confirm whether it is indeed his [and he can get his due payment] if you both agreed to it.

People should focus on the topic if it is true or not, rather than asking my real bitcointalk id. anyone can PM me if want to discuss anything. . And i will share & confirm my real account along with other details if need. Thanks

To be precise, I am not asking your real ID. I've already know it, assuming I deduct correctly. And yes, I am focusing on the topic. Small part of it, at least.

As I said above, it might barely contribute to an absolute resolution of the case [which would be the total payment for all participants, preferably from the wallet of the project owner], but given [I believe] one of the aim of this thread, aside from raising awareness about the situation, as well as what roycilik want as the least that he can do, is to get you paid what's rightfully yours, and I offered you both that.

roycilik can't pay you if he didn't know who you are on his participant list, as he don't know how much he owed you. So...

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 30, 2024, 02:00:20 PM

Reminds me of a bounty I ran awhile back where the team was supposed to pay after the TGE but severed all connection with me a month before the TGE. Might be the same team running the same scam. All the bounty hunters were never made whole.

Honestly, if a team approaches you with this sort of proposal and says they'll pay after the TGE, ALL managers should refuse the job. ALL bounty hunters should not participate either. Make the team escrow a large amount of money if they want to run a bounty, then take the chance.

I think Escrow Model is adopted by moderators of signature campaign in services sections, that's why there isn't any complain like this in services section. It's very simple if you want to run signature campaign then escrow at least one week of payment in moderator account and once the week is over the money is credited into participants account and the story goes on.
It's up to participants that they join the campaign whose payment is already Escrow or now. Once you enter a non Escrow bounty then be ready for payment denial at the end of week or the campaign.

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Quote from: holydarkness on December 05, 2024, 02:12:37 PM

Quote from: Agbe on December 05, 2024, 01:51:22 PM

Op you would have using the main account to create this thread so that the reputation would given to you by having the courage to say that. [...]

Completely irrelevant to the case and [IMO] barely contributive to an absolute resolution/outcome of the case, but since several people mentioned about OP's main account... it's actually not that hard to find. OP did not do a good attempt to sever any connection between this second account from his main one. Force of habit and all.

Come to my mind, though, roycilik, you want his real UID so you can personally compensate him from your own personal wallet? I can't be 100% sure it's his, given it took me just minute to cross-reference several things and tie both account, but I'm quite confident.

I'll share it here, and OP can confirm whether it is indeed his [and he can get his due payment] if you both agreed to it.

People should focus on the topic if it is true or not, rather than asking my real bitcointalk id. anyone can PM me if want to discuss anything. . And i will share & confirm my real account along with other details if need. Thanks

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Quote from: Agbe on December 05, 2024, 01:51:22 PM

Op you would have using the main account to create this thread so that the reputation would given to you by having the courage to say that. [...]

Completely irrelevant to the case and [IMO] barely contributive to an absolute resolution/outcome of the case, but since several people mentioned about OP's main account... it's actually not that hard to find. OP did not do a good attempt to sever any connection between this second account from his main one. Force of habit and all.

Come to my mind, though, roycilik, you want his real UID so you can personally compensate him from your own personal wallet? I can't be 100% sure it's his, given it took me just minute to cross-reference several things and tie both account, but I'm quite confident.

I'll share it here, and OP can confirm whether it is indeed his [and he can get his due payment] if you both agreed to it.

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Op you would have using the main account to create this thread so that the reputation would given to you by having the courage to say that. And I can also remember that bounty campaign where the campaign manager said, he would pay the participants of the second round after paying the first participants and the bounty campaign die down after sometimes. Though from your complain, if you were talking about some other things I would have said, I can't judge from the behind but for this case i don't think your accusation is right because the way he handled BKB campaign was nice. And I also believed that the problem was from the company and not him. And the only mistake he did was not updating the thread for the participated users to know what is on the ground. And I also see his apology to the participants in the thread recently. So whenever the company pays the money he will credit the participants but for now I don't think those human elements will come and pay the money so you can move on.

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Quote from: roycilik on December 03, 2024, 01:10:35 PM

I'm just trying to be patient and not let the participants panic by creating a scam accusation thread. Yeah, I know they deserved the truth

you should had done that after round 2, not let the campaign run for more 2 rounds when they Didn't clear the payment as they promised. Well You're trying to be patient for what? Still is there a chance to have the Rewards? Well go ahead. Now It's upto you...

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Quote from: JeromeTash on December 01, 2024, 03:56:06 PM

@roycilik I don't know if you read my last message, but the best course of action would have been to post the screenshots of responses from the people hiring you on those different bounty threads as an update on what's going on.
Another alternative is if deadlines haven't been met and you are also a victim. Why not create a scam accusation?

Sorry, and thanks for your advice JeromeTash (:
I'm just trying to be patient and not let the participants panic by creating a scam accusation thread. Yeah, I know they deserved the truth

Quote from: Igebotz on December 02, 2024, 12:26:17 PM

wouldn't it be smart to chat in the telegram channel to grab their attention?

Thanks for your advice Sir

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Quote from: roycilik on December 01, 2024, 03:05:56 PM

What I can say,
If I could go back in time, I would have asked for the tokens allocation to be escrowed first and even refused to run the bounty if I knew it would end like this. Unfortunately, I'm not the Flash who can go back in time to fix things, no I'm not.

Some participants asked when the distribution would be via PM or telegram, and I still responded. I know that it is their right to receive payment, I have said many times that I'm still trying to get their payment, you can see that I have repeatedly sent messages to the client but still have not received any response. Most bounty managers must be familiar with the word “When”

Nobody has ever travelled back in time; everyone lives in the present, and this is not Hollywood. OP stated that their TG channels are still live; if the marketing contact is not replying to your PM, wouldn't it be smart to chat in the telegram channel to grab their attention?

You did a bad job, and you must admit that. You also owe all payment information to your hunters . You might have gotten lucky with this one, but we don't know what the next one will be like.

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Quote from: roycilik on December 01, 2024, 12:12:38 AM

Quote from: icopress on November 30, 2024, 05:55:05 PM

Therefore, any costs that arise must be covered from the manager's own funds.

If the manager has to cover all token payments, then being a bounty manager should be rich, we know that bounty campaigns always allocate quite a lot of their tokens, let's say $50k in tokens. Of course, it would be crazy if you had to risk that much money just to get the weekly fee.

Good and precise campaign planning, agreeing on conditions, fulfilling obligations, controlling the quality of participants... All these are the necessary skills a quality manager must have. If the whole campaign is well planned, there should not be a situation where the manager has to pay for the campaign out of his own pocket.
Unfortunately, many managers see their work only through the weekly fee and the usual counting of posts and eventual checking of POA posts.

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Quote from: roycilik on December 01, 2024, 03:05:56 PM

Some participants asked when the distribution would be via PM or telegram, and I still responded. I know that it is their right to receive payment, I have said many times that I'm still trying to get their payment, you can see that I have repeatedly sent messages to the client but still have not received any response. Most bounty managers must be familiar with the word “When”

@roycilik I don't know if you read my last message, but the best course of action would have been to post the screenshots of responses from the people hiring you on those different bounty threads as an update on what's going on.
I know most of us old members may think bounties feel useless and therefore people who apply for them are "nobodies" but they deserve to know what is going on even before sending you PMs or creating such threads. These are also human beings behind those newbie accounts.

Another alternative is if deadlines haven't been met and you are also a victim. Why not create a scam accusation?

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Quote from: Igebotz on December 01, 2024, 03:46:55 AM

Quote from: roycilik on December 01, 2024, 12:12:38 AM

If the manager has to cover all token payments, then being a bounty manager should be rich, we know that bounty campaigns always allocate quite a lot of their tokens, let's say $50k in tokens. Of course, it would be crazy if you had to risk that much money just to get the weekly fee.

If you can't get the token escrowed or some form of assurance, don't take the job is so simple; otherwise, be prepared to bear the consequences. Why risk your reputation for $50-100 weekly service fees

I noticed how you deliberately avoided my questions.

What I can say,
If I could go back in time, I would have asked for the tokens allocation to be escrowed first and even refused to run the bounty if I knew it would end like this. Unfortunately, I'm not the Flash who can go back in time to fix things, no I'm not.

Some participants asked when the distribution would be via PM or telegram, and I still responded. I know that it is their right to receive payment, I have said many times that I'm still trying to get their payment, you can see that I have repeatedly sent messages to the client but still have not received any response. Most bounty managers must be familiar with the word “When”

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Quote from: ? on December 01, 2024, 11:41:00 AM

And Personally I've tagged Roycilik with Neutral Trust so that, Hunters can be careful before Joining his Bounty projects...

Read this thread carefully:

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It seems the discussion is end. Don't know the final result. But Glad that, Atleast Reputable Members have came here and discussed about this issue and they'll work on it to solve future problems.
And Personally I've tagged Roycilik with Neutral Trust so that, Hunters can be careful before Joining his Bounty projects. Bounty projects can scam, that's normal. But Hunters Should Know, there are some managers who just care about their service fees and keep promoting the scam project months after months without clearing previous round payment. That isn't fair at all.

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I see Yahoo already created a thread. I hope this will make some changes to the forum and it will be good for the bounty participants. The managers are getting paid for their jobs but the bounty participants get scammed most of the time. This is happening for a long time now. I hope all the managers will gather in one thread and come to a conclusion and I hope all of them will agree that they won't run a campaign without escrowing the funds.

For this case; Whatever happened has happened. I see the manager posted some screenshots and it seems he did his best to contact the team. If they do not pay, he cannot do anything. But he should be responsible from now on. I hope we will see some changes.

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Quote from: roycilik on December 01, 2024, 12:12:38 AM

If the manager has to cover all token payments, then being a bounty manager should be rich, we know that bounty campaigns always allocate quite a lot of their tokens, let's say $50k in tokens. Of course, it would be crazy if you had to risk that much money just to get the weekly fee.

If you can't get the token escrowed or some form of assurance, don't take the job is so simple; otherwise, be prepared to bear the consequences. Why risk your reputation for $50-100 weekly service fees

I noticed how you deliberately avoided my questions.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on December 01, 2024, 12:41:59 AM

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on December 01, 2024, 12:29:52 AM

No matter what solution we talk about in the thread I created about this subject, it won't be perfect. There does need to be some sort of security though and I just don't think every Tom, Dick, and Harry should be managing.

ahh it seems the Truth hurts you cause you are also a flop manager since years. Your last 3-4 bounty projects also scam. So i think you are in that listing of Tom, Dick, and Harry as you mentioned above. Try to speak the truth and clear talk rather than makes things complex.
Using insulting words won't make you cool as well as legend. Be polite with others.

I insulted noone. I also agree that I have had a few companies take off and fuck the hunters, maybe read my words and you'll see that. Most of the managers have faced that issue. I will not keep replying to you as I think those that hide behind an alt to speak their mind is cowardly, but as stated, I do agree there needs to be changes made and bounties ran differently. Otherwise people keep getting screwed and the cycle never ends.

The issue with you is you participated in a bounty and didn't get paid. Then you cry about it because you participated in something where nothing was escrowed. Then some of us are taking notice and trying to think of how to fix things and you go insulting users on an alt. lmao hilarious man

yahoo62278 i think it doesn't matter who posted this thread from which id... we need to Focus on the main point. Cause if i post the same thing again, Thus will anything be changed?? Main topic will remain same. So better to Focus on that. Thanks for your concern
And why you keep posting same thing again that I'm crying for not receive the payment bla bla bla? I've clearly written what i want. I'm talking about system. Check the comment again with your eyes. Thanks

Quote from: ? on December 01, 2024, 12:18:29 AM

@icopress Thanks sir for supporting the truth. Bounty project can scam anytime where Managers might be innocent. I don't want them to tag with flag. I just want that,
Managers will have to refuse posting/promotion the bounty project more than 1-2 Rounds without clearing the previous round payment. TGE may need some time but not 6-7 months. Thus we hunters won't need to keep working harder months after months for rewards and won't waste our 6-7 months time for scam bounty project due to manager like roycilik irresponsibly. That's all

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Quote from: ? on December 01, 2024, 12:38:09 AM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on December 01, 2024, 12:29:52 AM

No matter what solution we talk about in the thread I created about this subject, it won't be perfect. There does need to be some sort of security though and I just don't think every Tom, Dick, and Harry should be managing.

ahh it seems the Truth hurts you cause you are also a flop manager since years. Your last 3-4 bounty projects also scam. So i think you are in that listing of Tom, Dick, and Harry as you mentioned above. Try to speak the truth and clear talk rather than makes things complex.
Using insulting words won't make you cool as well as legend. Be polite with others.

I insulted noone. I also agree that I have had a few companies take off and fuck the hunters, maybe read my words and you'll see that. Most of the managers have faced that issue. I will not keep replying to you as I think those that hide behind an alt to speak their mind is cowardly, but as stated, I do agree there needs to be changes made and bounties ran differently. Otherwise people keep getting screwed and the cycle never ends.

The issue with you is you participated in a bounty and didn't get paid. Then you cry about it because you participated in something where nothing was escrowed. Then some of us are taking notice and trying to think of how to fix things and you go insulting users on an alt. lmao hilarious man.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on December 01, 2024, 12:29:52 AM

No matter what solution we talk about in the thread I created about this subject, it won't be perfect. There does need to be some sort of security though and I just don't think every Tom, Dick, and Harry should be managing.

ahh it seems the Truth hurts you cause you are also a flop manager since years. Your last 3-4 bounty projects also scam. So i think you are in that listing of Tom, Dick, and Harry as you mentioned above. Try to speak the truth and clear talk rather than makes things complex.
Using insulting words won't make you cool as well as legend. Be polite with others. In this case @lgebotz and @icopress have valid point. Talk with logic instead of shit p posts

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