Topic: Lesson Learned !!! - page 2. (Read 762 times)

I may be not the one to talk about this since I have so little experience in the forum. But here I go!

1. Do not ever ask for merits!! Do not try to creep from technical loop holes like "Oh man, Only begging for merits is banned, I did not begged, I just asked!" No It is not okay, Yes I know, sometimes We are pretty desperate when some "valuable posts" (The value of a post totally depends on the individual perspective!! Noobs like us tend to think after posting something that it worths some merit, but actually It is utter bullshit in the eyes of a more experienced user!) do not get rewarded and go deep under in the spamming mega threads where no one notices ever! BUT ASKING FOR MERIT IS STILL NOT OKAY!!!

2. About the negative trust, It can only be removed by the member who assigned it, Therefore contact him. Do not spam him, I thing he would remove the negative trust if he thinks that you have learnt the lesson. I have heard so much about the member ognasty and his attitude towards the forum, He must have done this out of the pure intention of making a spam free forum.

3. I have 3 sMerits left, but since this thread has been created solely in the idea of seeking attention from senior members with sMerits i am not gonna bother to look at your posts history.

Note:
Do not ask for merit, The surprise, Joy you get after seeing some of your posts have been merited is priceless.!!

Thanks. You are a newbie but much more mature than me and may be some seniors here in BT forum and the merits you've earned is very much deserved. I am pretty much raw than you to this forum. I am not expecting any merits for this but suggestions and guidance which you are much clearer even being a newbie. If I was able to I would merit this. thanks for you suggestion, appreciated.

Are you sure a newbie is all around the forums and know everything. I understand your problem, but this forum doesnt have forgiveness except few DT Members.
Next time don't do such things and look for genuine work as this forum admin never look to members what they want.

cryptoasis

newbie

Activity: 161

Merit: 0

OgNasty is a bully, I know that after I looked at owlcatz negative ratings left on him by this bully for speaking against him. wtf man? instead of finding meritale posts of somebody who has PMed you and help them in ranking up you just hand out negative trust? people don't have anywhere to look and ask for merits, so they might directly ask merit sources if they haven't got any merits yet.
Asking for merits is not prohibited, begging for merits is. did you beg or did you ask nicely?

My text was "can you please donate me merit point" with apology in advance that if sending PM disturbs you. I don't fully blame him for negative trust, its my mistake too not going through the rules, but if you punish them for their mistake which they admits and left to live the rest of life with negative trust status, how will the new member will grow? The bounty hunter who don't care about the community will make another account or can even buy account, but those who came to be part of community will be left discouraged.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 13, 2018, 01:03:39 PM

I may be not the one to talk about this since I have so little experience in the forum. But here I go!

1. Do not ever ask for merits!! Do not try to creep from technical loop holes like "Oh man, Only begging for merits is banned, I did not begged, I just asked!" No It is not okay, Yes I know, sometimes We are pretty desperate when some "valuable posts" (The value of a post totally depends on the individual perspective!! Noobs like us tend to think after posting something that it worths some merit, but actually It is utter bullshit in the eyes of a more experienced user!) do not get rewarded and go deep under in the spamming mega threads where no one notices ever! BUT ASKING FOR MERIT IS STILL NOT OKAY!!!

2. About the negative trust, It can only be removed by the member who assigned it, Therefore contact him. Do not spam him, I thing he would remove the negative trust if he thinks that you have learnt the lesson. I have heard so much about the member ognasty and his attitude towards the forum, He must have done this out of the pure intention of making a spam free forum.

3. I have 3 sMerits left, but since this thread has been created solely in the idea of seeking attention from senior members with sMerits i am not gonna bother to look at your posts history.

Note:
Do not ask for merit, The surprise, Joy you get after seeing some of your posts have been merited is priceless.!!

Thanks. You are a newbie but much more mature than me and may be some seniors here in BT forum and the merits you've earned is very much deserved. I am pretty much raw than you to this forum. I am not expecting any merits for this but suggestions and guidance which you are much clearer even being a newbie. If I was able to I would merit this. thanks for you suggestion, appreciated.
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cryptoasis

newbie

Activity: 161

Merit: 0

Quote from: cryptoasis on July 13, 2018, 12:58:17 PM

I later came to know that asking someone for merit is prohibited.

You see, you would have known that had you been anything other than a bounty hunter who doesn't really care about discussion here. It's been talked about endlessly that merit begging is frowned upon, especially via PM. The last thread I posted in about that was only within the last 3 days I think. There's no excuse that you didn't know that your action would result in a negative.

In addition, your warning is going to be ineffective. Why? Because, just like you, people who beg for merit tend not to read anything in Meta and won't see it. You yourself would have missed such a warning--in fact, you DID miss everything that would have warned you not to beg for merits. It's your fault, so own up to it.

I admit its my mistake, and I also justify my mistake that often new members are prone to make this mistake because there are so many sub-forums and sub-sub-forums but that way they will learn, what's allowed and what's not. To grow as a good "Bitcointalkers" is a process, not every new member enters into BT with learning of all rules. They will make mistakes and learn and realize, but those who wants to improve and admits their mistake and admit would not repeat, should be encouraged. They should be punished and also rewarded, but should not be let him live his whole life in bitcointalk with "red warning" status.

If I am here for only bounty then I would have made another BT account, and its just a Jr. member level, which can be achieved in just two weeks. But I am here to be part of community, learn from community who is here since 2011, and grow with community with my original identity. And also I would like to request the seniors in the forum to not treat all new members like bounty hunters many of them are here to be a part of community, and the new and fresh energy they can bring can be quite useful too.

Flying Hellfish

legendary

Activity: 1764

Merit: 1756

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Quote from: digaran on July 13, 2018, 03:19:57 PM

You got that part right, you are not in a position to have any opinion on this matter or similar cases, maybe you don't know it but let me explain it to you.

Hey guess what asshole, that user has just as much "right" to post their opinion as you, me or theymos. The fact that you want to shove your view of what is allowed or not shows how much a biased backwards fool you are.

You think you fucking know everything but in reality you look like a trolling moron without any ability to process information logically.

Steamtyme

legendary

Activity: 1540

Merit: 2036

Quote from: Vod on July 13, 2018, 04:07:24 PM

Keeping the tag on there, forcing him/her to change their actions, is much better for them than just ignoring it and letting them do it again.

I would say "if" in the future OP can show a proven history of change, then they can reach out to OG to request a review. Until then it's no different than when I used to tell the principal I'd stop blowing off classes or some other stupid behavior of the sort.

For now suck it up and improve.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: 3acaga on July 13, 2018, 04:04:57 PM

I am neither a bully or an asshole.

If you correctly wrote, then why not give the person who realized his mistake a chance?
P.S. Everyone is prone to make mistakes - but not everyone knows how to admit their mistake and go ahead!

You guys are naive. How do you know he learned his lesson, and is not just posting so?

Keeping the tag on there, forcing him/her to change their actions, is much better for them than just ignoring it and letting them do it again.

3acaga

member

Activity: 462

Merit: 12

Quote from: digaran on July 13, 2018, 03:49:52 PM

I am neither a bully or an asshole.

If you correctly wrote, then why not give the person who realized his mistake a chance?
P.S. Everyone is prone to make mistakes - but not everyone knows how to admit their mistake and go ahead!

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

I am neither a bully or an asshole.

Lol, then please give the OP another chance, he/she has learned the lesson obviously. how can we learn forgiveness if people like you don't have the habit of forgiving?

We forgive, we just don't forget - hence the tag.

digaran

copper member

Activity: 1330

Merit: 899

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I am neither a bully or an asshole.

Lol, then please give the OP another chance, he/she has learned the lesson obviously. how can we learn forgiveness if people like you don't have the habit of forgiving?

OgNasty

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Merit: 4323

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I am neither a bully or an asshole.

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

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Quote from: digaran on July 13, 2018, 03:19:57 PM

OgNasty is a bully, I know that after I looked at owlcatz negative ratings left on him by this bully for speaking against him. wtf man? instead of finding meritale posts of somebody who has PMed you and help them in ranking up you just hand out negative trust? people don't have anywhere to look and ask for merits, so they might directly ask merit sources if they haven't got any merits yet.
Asking for merits is not prohibited, begging for merits is. did you beg or did you ask nicely?

OgNasty being an asshole does not excuse the OP being a shitposting merit beggar. There is certainly no obligation for anyone to start looking for meritable posts upon receiving a PM from a beggar.

BTW neither asking nor begging for merits is officially against the rules otherwise the OP would be banned. It is frowned upon and everyone is dealing with it the way they see fit.

pugman

legendary

Activity: 2383

Merit: 1551

dogs are cute.

I may be not the one to talk about this

You got that part right, you are not in a position to have any opinion on this matter or similar cases, maybe you don't know it but let me explain it to you. merit distribution is manual because we were supposed to stop account farmers, but there are too many accounts already registered so the only thing merit helped to stop is preventing more account farming. somebody who asks for a few merits is not going to farm accounts with it, therefore tagging them to show them as if they are scammers is not right.
OP could be a newbie with no experience, instead of tagging them with red, tell them to stop asking for merits or just tell them to fuck off, telling them to fuck off would require less effort than leaving a negative feedback. if you are a merit source and don't want to be bothered with these situations, ask somebody else to take your place.

And you're not in the position to tell people what they should and what they shouldn't do.

digaran

copper member

Activity: 1330

Merit: 899

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 13, 2018, 01:45:03 PM

I may be not the one to talk about this

You got that part right, you are not in a position to have any opinion on this matter or similar cases, maybe you don't know it but let me explain it to you. merit distribution is manual because we were supposed to stop account farmers, but there are too many accounts already registered so the only thing merit helped to stop is preventing more account farming. somebody who asks for a few merits is not going to farm accounts with it, therefore tagging them to show them as if they are scammers is not right.
OP could be a newbie with no experience, instead of tagging them with red, tell them to stop asking for merits or just tell them to fuck off, telling them to fuck off would require less effort than leaving a negative feedback. if you are a merit source and don't want to be bothered with these situations, ask somebody else to take your place.

kitty94

jr. member

Activity: 33

Merit: 26

I may be not the one to talk about this since I have so little experience in the forum. But here I go!

1. Do not ever ask for merits!! Do not try to creep from technical loop holes like "Oh man, Only begging for merits is banned, I did not begged, I just asked!" No It is not okay, Yes I know, sometimes We are pretty desperate when some "valuable posts" (The value of a post totally depends on the individual perspective!! Noobs like us tend to think after posting something that it worths some merit, but actually It is utter bullshit in the eyes of a more experienced user!) do not get rewarded and go deep under in the spamming mega threads where no one notices ever! BUT ASKING FOR MERIT IS STILL NOT OKAY!!!

2. About the negative trust, It can only be removed by the member who assigned it, Therefore contact him. Do not spam him, I thing he would remove the negative trust if he thinks that you have learnt the lesson. I have heard so much about the member ognasty and his attitude towards the forum, He must have done this out of the pure intention of making a spam free forum.

3. I have 3 sMerits left, but since this thread has been created solely in the idea of seeking attention from senior members with sMerits i am not gonna bother to look at your posts history.

Note:
Do not ask for merit, The surprise, Joy you get after seeing some of your posts have been merited is priceless.!!

digaran

copper member

Activity: 1330

Merit: 899

🖤😏

OgNasty is a bully, I know that after I looked at owlcatz negative ratings left on him by this bully for speaking against him. wtf man? instead of finding meritale posts of somebody who has PMed you and help them in ranking up you just hand out negative trust? people don't have anywhere to look and ask for merits, so they might directly ask merit sources if they haven't got any merits yet.
Asking for merits is not prohibited, begging for merits is. did you beg or did you ask nicely?

OgNasty is a long time btctalk contributer. He does a lot of good here.

I know that but he is also a bully, being a DT member and tag somebody for something pity such as asking for some merits is simply bullying, he was the one asking to be a source and he should at least have the tolerance for things like this. we all know that "contributors" get free pass here for everything they do, but my problem is mostly with his red tagging the other people.

LFC_Bitcoin

legendary

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Merit: 9709

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