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legendary
Activity: 4214
Merit: 4458
May 11, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
#23
now the crowd fund has been abolished, here is the proper plan that shows achievable goals and does not require middle men holding the bag of money

part 1.
name some highly involved people of the community you think will come up with great idea's that governments would listen to that will help the community and keep the government at bay.
someone that understand the TRUE bitcoin ethos and understands that bitcoin is not a terrorist bomb or any other threat of life or limb to anyone.
someone that can advise government rationally (no tin foil hats or aggressive opinions)

the name i can think of is
andreas antanopolis.

now everyone else name some names.

part 2.
later a vote can be taken to get to some consensus of who is overall the top guy(s)..

part 3.
contact those people and see if they are at all interested in being a lobbiest. and if so THEY produce an address and people can send funds to them (like a bounty to do lobbying work)
sr. member
Activity: 952
Merit: 281
May 11, 2014, 01:15:01 PM
#22
before even organizing a fundraiser, before even mentioning that money needs to be involved or requesting who will manage the money.. shouldnt the OP atleast come up with a list of WHO and we poll vote WHO would be a good lobbyist. and then check the winner of the poll actually wants to do the job.

then and only then we should have a bitcoin address from that winner to accept payments to cover his costs+labour

Sorry but I am not familiar with US politics.  How would I go about finding who would be a good lobbyist?

failures
1. your not even american so now no one will want you to 'manage' funds for a american project
2. you dont even know politics so no one will trust you know what to do
3. you dont even have anyone in mind

so already you have failed any test of trust, understanding, or desire

please may i NEVER see you ever offer a fundraising project ever again. you have no clue about the project you propose and so no one will give you funds for something that has no substance or pre-planning

have a nice day
hahaha see my original post: "I would nominate myself to coordinate the effort, but it would probably be better done by a more senior community member."
legendary
Activity: 4214
Merit: 4458
May 11, 2014, 01:07:25 PM
#21
before even organizing a fundraiser, before even mentioning that money needs to be involved or requesting who will manage the money.. shouldnt the OP atleast come up with a list of WHO and we poll vote WHO would be a good lobbyist. and then check the winner of the poll actually wants to do the job.

then and only then we should have a bitcoin address from that winner to accept payments to cover his costs+labour

Sorry but I am not familiar with US politics.  How would I go about finding who would be a good lobbyist?

failures
1. your not even american so now no one will want you to 'manage' funds for a american project
2. you dont even know politics so no one will trust you know what to do
3. you dont even have anyone in mind

so already you have failed any test of trust, understanding, or desire

please may i NEVER see you ever offer a fundraising project ever again. you have no clue about the project you propose and so no one will give you funds for something that has no substance or pre-planning

have a nice day
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1195
May 11, 2014, 12:57:37 PM
#20
I think the genie is now out of the bottle
As the many innovative businesses innovating within btc come to the fore, benefits will be obvious to all
Lobbying is the hallmark of centralised, compromised systems
Let's try not to go there

Yup. Let them do what they have to do. Bitcoin isn't another corporation they can take on and just try beat by throwing money at politicians. We're stronger and bigger than that.
Seriously?  Roll Eyes

Yeah. Serious. What wrong with that? Who can they attack? We're a decentralised network with many heads. We're not a centralised corporation that can easily be taken down.
We are not stronger, just more difficult to to attack - being able to dodge punches does not mean you can throw them in a fight.  And bigger... just come on... compare the value of dollars in circulation to bitcoin

How can you attack something that is everywhere and doesn't have a central body? And I don't see what the amount of dollars in circulation has to do with Mastercard being strong. They don't own all the money in the world.
sr. member
Activity: 952
Merit: 281
May 11, 2014, 12:53:03 PM
#19
I think the genie is now out of the bottle
As the many innovative businesses innovating within btc come to the fore, benefits will be obvious to all
Lobbying is the hallmark of centralised, compromised systems
Let's try not to go there

Yup. Let them do what they have to do. Bitcoin isn't another corporation they can take on and just try beat by throwing money at politicians. We're stronger and bigger than that.
Seriously?  Roll Eyes

Yeah. Serious. What wrong with that? Who can they attack? We're a decentralised network with many heads. We're not a centralised corporation that can easily be taken down.
We are not stronger, just more difficult to to attack - being able to dodge punches does not mean you can throw them in a fight.  And bigger... just come on... compare the value of dollars in circulation to bitcoin
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
May 11, 2014, 12:46:30 PM
#18
I think this is a good idea. You need to have the government working with you. Lobbyists have done tons for smoking. Maybe a bad comparison but if you have the government working with you there is much more potential for growth.

Completely agree. Everything comes from government, or almost everything. And it's not just politics, it includes advertisement, which can make bitcoin popular. The more people hear about bitcoin the more they will be interested in it.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1195
May 11, 2014, 12:45:19 PM
#17
I think the genie is now out of the bottle
As the many innovative businesses innovating within btc come to the fore, benefits will be obvious to all
Lobbying is the hallmark of centralised, compromised systems
Let's try not to go there

Yup. Let them do what they have to do. Bitcoin isn't another corporation they can take on and just try beat by throwing money at politicians. We're stronger and bigger than that.
Seriously?  Roll Eyes

Yeah. Serious. What wrong with that? Who can they attack? We're a decentralised network with many heads. We're not a centralised corporation that can easily be taken down.
sr. member
Activity: 952
Merit: 281
May 11, 2014, 12:31:17 PM
#16
I think the genie is now out of the bottle
As the many innovative businesses innovating within btc come to the fore, benefits will be obvious to all
Lobbying is the hallmark of centralised, compromised systems
Let's try not to go there

Yup. Let them do what they have to do. Bitcoin isn't another corporation they can take on and just try beat by throwing money at politicians. We're stronger and bigger than that.
Seriously?  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 952
Merit: 281
May 11, 2014, 12:29:48 PM
#15
before even organizing a fundraiser, before even mentioning that money needs to be involved or requesting who will manage the money.. shouldnt the OP atleast come up with a list of WHO and we poll vote WHO would be a good lobbyist. and then check the winner of the poll actually wants to do the job.

then and only then we should have a bitcoin address from that winner to accept payments to cover his costs+labour

Sorry but I am not familiar with US politics.  How would I go about finding who would be a good lobbyist?
legendary
Activity: 1789
Merit: 1008
Keep it dense, yeah?
May 11, 2014, 12:16:41 PM
#14
I think that the crypto community would better benefit from increasing awareness through sponsorships, adoption and education than attempting to buy political support.

Bitcoin already has political support, just as it has its naysayers too. If crypto is to succeed then it will do without funding a lobbyist.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 257
May 11, 2014, 11:47:21 AM
#13
just give enough funds to a selected politician and he will understand what he has to do to get more on next elections
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1009
May 11, 2014, 08:41:06 AM
#12
You need to have the government working with you.
The less Bitcoin is associated with that nasty, violent religion, the better.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
May 11, 2014, 08:31:09 AM
#11
I think this is a good idea. You need to have the government working with you. Lobbyists have done tons for smoking. Maybe a bad comparison but if you have the government working with you there is much more potential for growth.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
May 11, 2014, 08:26:26 AM
#10
If politicians are faced With lobbyists saying:

"Bitcoin is bad, bad bad bad. We need a ban,ban ban ban"


they are going to think "What the hell is this? Bitcoin? Ban? Why?"

Then the lobbyists will say, ofcourse:

"Because it's bad, bad bad bad. Our masters want it banned, ban ban ban".

Then, if Bitcoin has 0 lobbyists, the politicians will think something funny is going on.

"Why ban a New innovation like Bitcoin? God, if only the lobbyists would be allowed to stick Money directly into my Pocket this would be so much easier. Now they can't, so we need to look like we make decisions based on Our own opinions."




Then take the other alternative, IF bitcoin has lobbyists. That could only play out in 1 way. Politicians in the middle and 2 snakes in each ear trying to convince them to take a half open bribe. This, ofcourse, will make bitcoin win. But, it's short term.


What bitcoin needs in this area is a self-evolved resistance. They shouldn't feel like being in the middle of a fight between CRYPTO-terrorism-currencies and established Banks. Politcians love banks, theyve been on their side for the last 100+ years. They should feel as if they are being told by these banks to ban innovation and an inevitable evolution of Money. Cause that's what this sht is. If we lobby for it, we become what we fight. That door all e-currency users and Developers must Lock.
legendary
Activity: 4214
Merit: 4458
May 11, 2014, 07:52:30 AM
#9
before even organizing a fundraiser, before even mentioning that money needs to be involved or requesting who will manage the money.. shouldnt the OP atleast come up with a list of WHO and we poll vote WHO would be a good lobbyist. and then check the winner of the poll actually wants to do the job.

then and only then we should have a bitcoin address from that winner to accept payments to cover his costs+labour
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1195
May 11, 2014, 07:51:04 AM
#8
I think the genie is now out of the bottle
As the many innovative businesses innovating within btc come to the fore, benefits will be obvious to all
Lobbying is the hallmark of centralised, compromised systems
Let's try not to go there

Yup. Let them do what they have to do. Bitcoin isn't another corporation they can take on and just try beat by throwing money at politicians. We're stronger and bigger than that.
sr. member
Activity: 338
Merit: 250
May 11, 2014, 07:49:50 AM
#7
It was natural that this would happen. Ignore them.
hero member
Activity: 490
Merit: 500
May 11, 2014, 07:47:31 AM
#6
I think the genie is now out of the bottle
As the many innovative businesses innovating within btc come to the fore, benefits will be obvious to all
Lobbying is the hallmark of centralised, compromised systems
Let's try not to go there
global moderator
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May 11, 2014, 05:34:06 AM
#5
I don't think we really need one. Bitcoin will speak for itself over time. Sure, governments and corporations who are in direct competition with bitcoin will try slander it and lobby against it, but merchants and the right people will eventually see the benefits.
sr. member
Activity: 274
Merit: 250
May 11, 2014, 05:29:01 AM
#4
Let them lobby against it. It doesn't matter.
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