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legendary
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I tried to mine with 8 GPU's in Linux - Ubuntu 11.04. Mother board is MSI big bang Marshal. The problem is not Linux but PSU.
I can mine with 8 cards , if don't over clock, don't have any fans installed....
To cool GPU's i use 120 mm fans, 6- 8 fans & PSU can't able to give power with 8 cards + fans.
I used 2 PSU's & i still can't believe the PSU sucked.
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1200 W. Before buying i wrote to cooler master & got confirmation that it will support 8 GPU's.
Yes it supports 8 GPU's in Ubuntu, but mining & adding fans makes the PSU to go off.
Then i used another PSU, 3, 1200 W to mine with 8 cards, but due to not able to under clock memory of 6970's heat went up to 95C+ , so stopped using that.
My advice, unless you know how to cool, avoid more than 6 GPU's.
Also Cooler Master even though having 80 gold certificate sucks, seems they got fraud certificate or something & also in AMD's certified PSU's only 2 nos of 5870 is mentioned as CMSPG 1200w supports.

If you want more power, yesterday found out, silverstone ST-1500W can able to with stand 4 GPU's , I emailed them & they confirmed.
Still cooler master gave me failure , i can't trust it now. But 1500W can support, i hope.
My system had 5 nos. of 5870's (2 ASUS EAH 5870, 1 Sapphire HD 5870, 2 MSI R5870 Lightning) & 3 nos. of MSI R6970 Lightning.



Well duh, of course a single 1200W power supply isn't going to be able to handle the load of 8 GPUs.  You get a max of 98A @ 12V, so 1176W to work with on the 12V line.  Figure your system probably has around 100W overhead, so you're down to 1076W to split among 8 video cards, or 134W each.  Unless you're using some pretty low performance video cards, you're overloading the power supply.  You're probably going to have to run a second power supply to power at least a couple of those cards.

Before answering, READ what said.
He used up to 3 power supplies, not one.
legendary
Activity: 1855
Merit: 1016

I tried to mine with 8 GPU's in Linux - Ubuntu 11.04. Mother board is MSI big bang Marshal. The problem is not Linux but PSU.
I can mine with 8 cards , if don't over clock, don't have any fans installed....
To cool GPU's i use 120 mm fans, 6- 8 fans & PSU can't able to give power with 8 cards + fans.
I used 2 PSU's & i still can't believe the PSU sucked.
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1200 W. Before buying i wrote to cooler master & got confirmation that it will support 8 GPU's.
Yes it supports 8 GPU's in Ubuntu, but mining & adding fans makes the PSU to go off.
Then i used another PSU, 3, 1200 W to mine with 8 cards, but due to not able to under clock memory of 6970's heat went up to 95C+ , so stopped using that.
My advice, unless you know how to cool, avoid more than 6 GPU's.
Also Cooler Master even though having 80 gold certificate sucks, seems they got fraud certificate or something & also in AMD's certified PSU's only 2 nos of 5870 is mentioned as CMSPG 1200w supports.

If you want more power, yesterday found out, silverstone ST-1500W can able to with stand 4 GPU's , I emailed them & they confirmed.
Still cooler master gave me failure , i can't trust it now. But 1500W can support, i hope.
My system had 5 nos. of 5870's (2 ASUS EAH 5870, 1 Sapphire HD 5870, 2 MSI R5870 Lightning) & 3 nos. of MSI R6970 Lightning.



Well duh, of course a single 1200W power supply isn't going to be able to handle the load of 8 GPUs.  You get a max of 98A @ 12V, so 1176W to work with on the 12V line.  Figure your system probably has around 100W overhead, so you're down to 1076W to split among 8 video cards, or 134W each.  Unless you're using some pretty low performance video cards, you're overloading the power supply.  You're probably going to have to run a second power supply to power at least a couple of those cards.

Before answering, READ what said.
newbie
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Well, I know for a fact Windows XP doesn't have a hard 4 GPU limit.  I used to run Folding@Home on 4 9800GX2 video cards, so 8 GPUs, on Windows XP x64.  If there is an issue, it's manufacturer specific then.


I tried to mine with 8 GPU's in Linux - Ubuntu 11.04. Mother board is MSI big bang Marshal. The problem is not Linux but PSU.
I can mine with 8 cards , if don't over clock, don't have any fans installed....
To cool GPU's i use 120 mm fans, 6- 8 fans & PSU can't able to give power with 8 cards + fans.
I used 2 PSU's & i still can't believe the PSU sucked.
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1200 W. Before buying i wrote to cooler master & got confirmation that it will support 8 GPU's.
Yes it supports 8 GPU's in Ubuntu, but mining & adding fans makes the PSU to go off.
Then i used another PSU, 3, 1200 W to mine with 8 cards, but due to not able to under clock memory of 6970's heat went up to 95C+ , so stopped using that.
My advice, unless you know how to cool, avoid more than 6 GPU's.
Also Cooler Master even though having 80 gold certificate sucks, seems they got fraud certificate or something & also in AMD's certified PSU's only 2 nos of 5870 is mentioned as CMSPG 1200w supports.

If you want more power, yesterday found out, silverstone ST-1500W can able to with stand 4 GPU's , I emailed them & they confirmed.
Still cooler master gave me failure , i can't trust it now. But 1500W can support, i hope.
My system had 5 nos. of 5870's (2 ASUS EAH 5870, 1 Sapphire HD 5870, 2 MSI R5870 Lightning) & 3 nos. of MSI R6970 Lightning.



Well duh, of course a single 1200W power supply isn't going to be able to handle the load of 8 GPUs.  You get a max of 98A @ 12V, so 1176W to work with on the 12V line.  Figure your system probably has around 100W overhead, so you're down to 1076W to split among 8 video cards, or 134W each.  Unless you're using some pretty low performance video cards, you're overloading the power supply.  You're probably going to have to run a second power supply to power at least a couple of those cards.
legendary
Activity: 1855
Merit: 1016
I tried to mine with 8 GPU's in Linux - Ubuntu 11.04. Mother board is MSI big bang Marshal. The problem is not Linux but PSU.
I can mine with 8 cards , if don't over clock, don't have any fans installed....
To cool GPU's i use 120 mm fans, 6- 8 fans & PSU can't able to give power with 8 cards + fans.
I used 2 PSU's & i still can't believe the PSU sucked.
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1200 W. Before buying i wrote to cooler master & got confirmation that it will support 8 GPU's.
Yes it supports 8 GPU's in Ubuntu, but mining & adding fans makes the PSU to go off.
Then i used another PSU, 3, 1200 W to mine with 8 cards, but due to not able to under clock memory of 6970's heat went up to 95C+ , so stopped using that.
My advice, unless you know how to cool, avoid more than 6 GPU's.
Also Cooler Master even though having 80 gold certificate sucks, seems they got fraud certificate or something & also in AMD's certified PSU's only 2 nos of 5870 is mentioned as CMSPG 1200w supports.

If you want more power, yesterday found out, silverstone ST-1500W can able to with stand 4 GPU's , I emailed them & they confirmed.
Still cooler master gave me failure , i can't trust it now. But 1500W can support, i hope.
My system had 5 nos. of 5870's (2 ASUS EAH 5870, 1 Sapphire HD 5870, 2 MSI R5870 Lightning) & 3 nos. of MSI R6970 Lightning.

newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Guys please help me here! I cant get to work with 3 cards (5 GPU) and this is my four day with the problem and still no solution Sad

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=21687.0
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Hmm, that's awesome.  Of course, you run into power requirement issues with that many cards, but it's nice to be able to bundle things up into fewer machines.

So, that leads to the question of what are some good suggestions for motherboards that have 5+ PCI express slots?

I'm running an ASUS WS Revolution with 7 GPUs with Windows 7, AMD currently has a ticket from me escalated to engineer to deal with the need for dummy plugs with 11.6.

Nice.  What GPU's/PSU are you using?  My main concern with 5+ cards isn't really the overall power needs of the cards, it's that I believe the cards can draw 75W through the PCI express slots.  7-8 cards is 600 watts pumping through the board just for the GPU's and I wonder if that would be any cause for concern?
donator
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1060
between a rock and a block!
Hmm, that's awesome.  Of course, you run into power requirement issues with that many cards, but it's nice to be able to bundle things up into fewer machines.

So, that leads to the question of what are some good suggestions for motherboards that have 5+ PCI express slots?

I'm running an ASUS WS Revolution with 7 GPUs with Windows 7, AMD currently has a ticket from me escalated to engineer to deal with the need for dummy plugs with 11.6.

If AMD gets rid of the dummy plug for win, that will be SUPER fantastic!!!!!
Please keep us posted!
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1000
https://www.bitworks.io
Hmm, that's awesome.  Of course, you run into power requirement issues with that many cards, but it's nice to be able to bundle things up into fewer machines.

So, that leads to the question of what are some good suggestions for motherboards that have 5+ PCI express slots?

I'm running an ASUS WS Revolution with 7 GPUs with Windows 7, AMD currently has a ticket from me escalated to engineer to deal with the need for dummy plugs with 11.6.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Hmm, that's awesome.  Of course, you run into power requirement issues with that many cards, but it's nice to be able to bundle things up into fewer machines.

So, that leads to the question of what are some good suggestions for motherboards that have 5+ PCI express slots?
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1005
XP support at least 4GPUs
7 supports at least 8GPUs, but only 4 can run OpenCL.

With the new 10.6 drivers, the limit on Windows is now 8 OpenCL
donator
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1060
between a rock and a block!
There are no myths here...

On windows, prior to driver 11.6 only 4 GPUs would work.

GPU does not equal a video card in this context...
Windows will recognize more than 4 video cards just fine... However, you won't be able to use more than 4 GPUs with 11.5 or below.

However, with 11.6 drivers, it looks like there's limited confirmation of 8 GPUs being the new limit.
On Linux there are rumors that the limit is at least 10 GPUs...
sr. member
Activity: 677
Merit: 250
5 cards and up wont work due to a limitation in windows, they simply wont be recognized by the operating system.

Not true.

I had 5 cards working under Windows for about 2 days. I don't currently as I rearranged to load balance, but with Dummy Plugs I had no issues.

Cable, which cards, mobo and OS were you using?

Win 7 Ultimate x64
Gigabyte EP45-UD3P motherboard, all cards run through extender. 2 x16, 3 x1->x16.
Ran 1 5970 (Sapphire), 2 5870 (XFX), 1 5830 (Sapphire.)

Can you post your speeds per card?

That's the only way of verifying whether you have all 5 GPUs working.

Someone from this thread confirmed that you cannot mine with more than 4 GPUs:
http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=19038.0

Windows showed 7 GPUs detected for this computer, but that's meaningless, since openCL drivers only support up to 4.
c_k
donator
Activity: 242
Merit: 100
Remember AMD APP SDK support for Windows XP stops at v2.4 Smiley
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
Has anyone tried running 5 with virtual machines? I do not know enough about them to know if it would work but could you assign 3 to one machine and 2 to another?  I am very curious...have another 2 cards on the way and I would rather run 5 per machine...pretty sure I can pull it off physically with card extenders.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Hmm, yeah, the 5970 is dual GPU, so it could be that it only works with 5 cards or Cable was only using 4 GPU's (1 off the 5970).  Cable, were you using all 5?

Is there anyone out there that's gotten windows working with more than 4 physical cards?
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
5 GPU though... So Windows still somewhat had to handle 5 GPUs... now it depends on what the drivers showed windows, but it is technically 5 GPU...
legendary
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1431
Win 7 Ultimate x64
Gigabyte EP45-UD3P motherboard, all cards run through extender. 2 x16, 3 x1->x16.
Ran 1 5970 (Sapphire), 2 5870 (XFX), 1 5830 (Sapphire.)
but that's only 4.
1 + 2 + 1 = 4
sr. member
Activity: 302
Merit: 250
5 cards and up wont work due to a limitation in windows, they simply wont be recognized by the operating system.

Not true.

I had 5 cards working under Windows for about 2 days. I don't currently as I rearranged to load balance, but with Dummy Plugs I had no issues.

Cable, which cards, mobo and OS were you using?

Win 7 Ultimate x64
Gigabyte EP45-UD3P motherboard, all cards run through extender. 2 x16, 3 x1->x16.
Ran 1 5970 (Sapphire), 2 5870 (XFX), 1 5830 (Sapphire.)
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
5 cards and up wont work due to a limitation in windows, they simply wont be recognized by the operating system.

Not true.

I had 5 cards working under Windows for about 2 days. I don't currently as I rearranged to load balance, but with Dummy Plugs I had no issues.

Cable, which cards, mobo and OS were you using?
sr. member
Activity: 302
Merit: 250
5 cards and up wont work due to a limitation in windows, they simply wont be recognized by the operating system.

Not true.

I had 5 cards working under Windows for about 2 days. I don't currently as I rearranged to load balance, but with Dummy Plugs I had no issues.
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