Topic: Let's finally remove Locked and Self Mod topics from the Marketplace - page 3. (Read 906 times)

I agree self-moderated topics can serve a purpose outside of the Marketplace. There was an initiative a while back where some members created all topics this way. The idea was they were going to reduce the workload on the Mods by deleting Spam and off-topic themselves. Whether you agree with them or not in discussion threads is up to you, and you can choose to post there accordingly.

The purpose of this thread is only in relation to Marketplace sections.
I disagree anyone has the capacity to use it properly or abuse it, irregardless of rank. That's why I like the idea of needing to be whitelisted. The requirement might be your account needs to have enough substance a Mod can make a determination on whether you need it or not; or if it's a net benefit to allow someone to use it.

Same;  You get one person with a wrong conception or stick up their butt and end up with 3 pages of useless posts that are far off topic.... usually if I delete posts on my few self-moderated threads, I will leave a quote reference chain where it ended and delete the rest.... see my xmr-stak thread for a prime example.


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I do agree that self moderated threads do not belong in the marketplace section.


Anyone complaining of "freedom of speech"  look into the TOS agreement you said yes to when you signed up.   Second;  this is a privately owned website;  not a public one..... don't act as if it is such.

What positive are you talking about? That self moderated thread prevent spamming, right? Oh, please come on. If spam were the issue the posts could be deleted. But the evil about such threads is that they stiffen freedom of speech. I think this causes more harm than good.

^^ Thats a good compromise, someone known to the forum should have far more ability and discretion then somebody who only just appeared and is far more likely to operate in a way outside forum rules as they are not even taking part in discussions for much time.

To be honest, very less people's using self moderated thread to prevent spam. Most of use self moderated thread for manipulation. On the other hand, one of main scammy activity is, "sell on lock thread". Those users try to sell by locked thread that means there is something wrong, and personally I believe that kind of behaviour is one of symptom of scam.

However, I am not fan of self moderated thread but it would change based on user rank. Self moderated thread should be disable below full member rank.

Self mod topics have been historically effective at curbing shitposts - at least on my threads. So I don't agree with your message messenger. If you were in Sparta, you'd be at the bottom of a well now  

I think self mod is a positive but the posts should remain viewable by at least some as an option, so they dont display as part of the discussion but as an option are revealable on request.    Obviously if this is possible the participants on the thread can call out any bad action to deceive but it also gives OP the ability to remove rubbish and OT posts from the flow of conversation


I saw that recently and thought it should be displayed as clearly for everyone, on new accounts that start threads at least

I don’t like self moderated topics anywhere. They’re open to manipulation & dishonesty.

I know there are situations where it can be seen as a positive to have them but if it was up to me (which it clearly isn’t) I’d do away with them altogether.

Just a personal preference, don’t shoot the messenger

I know this has been kicked around a few times, but I couldn't find a solid discussion around it and reasoning behind keeping this feature available to all. I've only seen a handful of threads that don't appear to be scammy by nature using either of these features in the Marketplace. When I say locked topics I'm only referring to being able to toggle the feature for bumping. I'm not even proposing an outright elimination of the feature, this could be a feature some users could be whitelisted for by Admins or Marketplace Mods. A good example of a whitelistable account might be brokers maintaining a large amount of items in 1 thread.

Maybe I'm missing something but it seems the bad far outweighs the good by keeping these features available for everyone, considering it's the go to move for Newbie accounts looking for a quick score. The few users who feel their topic will be spammed or they may be harassed can make use of the "report to moderator" function. The rest of the threads will be open to have reasonable questions asked and discussion to take place on this forum, considering this is where the Ads are placed. It will still depend on members to ask the right questions but I think there are plenty out there that patrol and will do just that.

There have in the past been concerns as well around these features empowering and protecting the potential scams themselves. They can spread false information about escrows gear and anything they really want with little recourse available. There is no way apart from leaving feedback and hoping people believe it or are not convinced it's frivolous through whatever means of contact these people use. I get it that it's still up to people to do their due diligence and they should catch these tricks, but unfortunately a lot of us learn the hard way. It's an unfortunate by product of the protections certain banks and cards have afforded us.

With the recent steps to display a warning based on DT trust to logged out users. I'm hoping we can take further steps to improve the Marketplace through transparency, functionality and safety.