wow, this is interesting.
I did know that there is a lot of Newbies and Juniors but I never expected to see so big numbers. This explains some things like the spammers in mega threads. Thanks for these statistics.
Topic: Lets go deeper in "brand new" and " newbie" statistics (Read 500 times)
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Many thanks for publishing the very interesting topic.I give you link to the one : Using R for Time series Analysis.
Personally, it might be better if you use time series plots for your data presentation.
Of course, you can plot time series datasets with other statistical softwares, not only R.
Yes, I am familair with time series but in this case I believe bar plots seems more appropriate.
I am using OriginLab there ar eplenty of options. But thanks for suggestion.
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Can you make a bit deeper analysis, with delayed effects of merit system and new rank requirements on newbies' activities in the forum over the last 6-7 months since the launch day of merit system in January?As I understand you would like to see the potenital impact of merit system to forum using scraped data.
The problem is that there is other strong factors among implementation of merit sytem, as the change of whole interest in crypto space because of the market bubble , this makes me think that we wont see much. Also i speculate that data in user profile is not enough in this case , if i scraped the posts and analysed posting times , it could give us some interesting information.
I believe that there are already users who have done extensive research on merit sytem impact,
Take a look at this user and his posts, they are very interesting also.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ddmrddmr-1582324
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Can you make a bit deeper analysis, with delayed effects of merit system and new rank requirements on newbies' activities in the forum over the last 6-7 months since the launch day of merit system in January? I bet most of the newbie accounts are from that period only.
Such a crash is very bad for crypto in general. It will not only result in huge loss for the new investors but some may get done with crypto with this first bitter experience. I mean loss of 10-20% is still fine but someone loosing half of his money or more in few days can have a very large impact. Probably many such investors never looked back at crypto or this forum.
I do not believe that its true , look at the Newbie Registration rate, a lot of users registred their accounts before big Bull run when they could potentially lose money to such extent as you mentionedSuch a crash is very bad for crypto in general. It will not only result in huge loss for the new investors but some may get done with crypto with this first bitter experience. I mean loss of 10-20% is still fine but someone loosing half of his money or more in few days can have a very large impact. Probably many such investors never looked back at crypto or this forum.
I believe that user TheQuin is right, most of new users are here to ask few questions about blockchain .
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Many thanks for publishing the very interesting topic.I give you link to the one : Using R for Time series Analysis.
Personally, it might be better if you use time series plots for your data presentation.
Of course, you can plot time series datasets with other statistical softwares, not only R.
I bet most of the newbie accounts are from that period only.
A lot of people only come here because they have a single question to ask. It might be a general one about a wallet or way to exchange in a specific currency or they may have an issue with a service that has a support thread here.
Thats a really interesting find. Maybe it has something to do with the hype of bitcoin when it hit $20k, people came to this forum then suddenly lost interest when it he price dropped?
I bet most of the newbie accounts are from that period only.
Such a crash is very bad for crypto in general. It will not only result in huge loss for the new investors but some may get done with crypto with this first bitter experience. I mean loss of 10-20% is still fine but someone loosing half of his money or more in few days can have a very large impact. Probably many such investors never looked back at crypto or this forum.
The Brand New phenomenon is down to the Evil IP system.
I think spammers also "stockpile" accounts, and that brings me to a question to OP: can you make an overview of the time it took for all accounts to create their first post after registration? (I realize this means scraping a couple of hundred thousand pages)Look at the " Brand New " Stats,almost all of them have 0 post, this amounts to about 1,4 million accounts! There is nothing to srape there.
In case of " Newbies" there is about 65% which have done less than 5 post, there is information to be scraped , it would only be worth it , if in the end we will see first post made in very similar time frames or very shortly after registration which I doubt.
The Brand New phenomenon is down to the Evil IP system.
I think spammers also "stockpile" accounts, and that brings me to a question to OP: can you make an overview of the time it took for all accounts to create their first post after registration? (I realize this means scraping a couple of hundred thousand pages)They definitely do that. It makes sense that it will take a lot of time trying different IP addresses to accumulate enough useable accounts to launch a spam attack with.
The Brand New phenomenon is down to the Evil IP system.
I think spammers also "stockpile" accounts, and that brings me to a question to OP: can you make an overview of the time it took for all accounts to create their first post after registration? (I realize this means scraping a couple of hundred thousand pages)
This is an interesting find. How about deleting accounts with no activity for years ?
Its probably not needed. I don't see any real benefit other than space, but I don't think that's too much of a problem for theymos. I guess it does skew the forum statistics a little bit, but I don't think that justifies it. I don't really see too many benefits of doing it. Maybe, later down the line things will change, and theymos will start pruning old accounts, but I think I remember this being discussed before, and it was ruled out for a few reasons. I can't seem to find that thread though.
@Welsh
Not sure but are you referring to the below thread?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delete-all-the-old-and-unused-accounts-782493
Thats a really interesting find. Maybe it has something to do with the hype of bitcoin when it hit $20k, people came to this forum then suddenly lost interest when it he price dropped?
I think no, looks like brand new member got evil points when registering, like what TheQuin said above. So, they abandoned brand new that got evil points and try to find another IP for register.
Thats a really interesting find. Maybe it has something to do with the hype of bitcoin when it hit $20k, people came to this forum then suddenly lost interest when it he price dropped?
This is an interesting find. How about deleting accounts with no activity for years ?
Its probably not needed. I don't see any real benefit other than space, but I don't think that's too much of a problem for theymos. I guess it does skew the forum statistics a little bit, but I don't think that justifies it. I don't really see too many benefits of doing it. Maybe, later down the line things will change, and theymos will start pruning old accounts, but I think I remember this being discussed before, and it was ruled out for a few reasons. I can't seem to find that thread though.
Good stats OP (a kind of relief also that some stat are not related to merit .)
OP, Can you do a favor and find how many (Member and above were become active in 2018) and from your second post , can you find that how many Member and above was active after May 2018.
Just curios , how many people are active in this community or what is active size of the community.
OP, Can you do a favor and find how many (Member and above were become active in 2018) and from your second post , can you find that how many Member and above was active after May 2018.
Just curios , how many people are active in this community or what is active size of the community.
Hello and thank you.
I am plannig to make a post in near future with information regarding the ranks "Member" and above, which will include also activity.
Regarding the website links in the newbie accounts, I suppose this can easily be solved by adding a rel="no-follow" attribute in the website URL field. I just checked and currently the link is do-followed, which is like a magnet for these spammers. If this link was made to be no-followed, google wouldn't count it as relevant. Hopefully, as a result of this change, the brand new users whose sole purpose is to obtain a backlink to their website will lose interest to join and spam will be reduced, even if it is a small fraction.
I agree, I imagine that this could be easily implemented and good solution.
Small fraction of all Newbie and Brand New accounts have links in their accounts , in majority of them , they are with purpose to use power of this forum to increase google positions of other web-pages ,
Regarding the website links in the newbie accounts, I suppose this can easily be solved by adding a rel="no-follow" attribute in the website URL field. I just checked and currently the link is do-followed, which is like a magnet for these spammers. If this link was made to be no-followed, google wouldn't count it as relevant. Hopefully, as a result of this change, the brand new users whose sole purpose is to obtain a backlink to their website will lose interest to join and spam will be reduced, even if it is a small fraction.
This is an interesting find. How about deleting accounts with no activity for years ?
The Brand New phenomenon is down to the Evil IP system. When an account is banned the IP address assigned some evil points and all IP addresses close to it a smaller number of evil points. When a new account is signed up from an IP address that has a certain number of evil points they are required to pay a fee before they can post (the higher the evil score the higher the fee). The spambots sign up many accounts to find one they can post from for free.
Good stats OP (a kind of relief also that some stat are not related to merit .)
Stats from your first post.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34863787
Quick sorted these 900K users:
661K Brand New
190K Newbie
45K Jr. member
12K Member
11K Full Member
8K Sr. Member
2K Legendary
4K Hero member
Stats from your second post.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41998196
Brand New 733503 73,35%
Newbie 212864 21,28%
Jr. Member 33395 3,34%
Member 13682 1,36%
Full Member 6334 0,63%
Sr.Member 222 0,02%
Hero 0 0%
Legendary 0 0%
OP, Can you do a favor and find how many (Member and above were become active in 2018) and from your second post , can you find that how many Member and above was active after May 2018.
Just curios , how many people are active in this community or what is active size of the community.
Stats from your first post.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.34863787
Quick sorted these 900K users:
661K Brand New
190K Newbie
45K Jr. member
12K Member
11K Full Member
8K Sr. Member
2K Legendary
4K Hero member
Stats from your second post.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41998196
Brand New 733503 73,35%
Newbie 212864 21,28%
Jr. Member 33395 3,34%
Member 13682 1,36%
Full Member 6334 0,63%
Sr.Member 222 0,02%
Hero 0 0%
Legendary 0 0%
OP, Can you do a favor and find how many (Member and above were become active in 2018) and from your second post , can you find that how many Member and above was active after May 2018.
Just curios , how many people are active in this community or what is active size of the community.
It could be true that nuked accounts contrubute in this way, but nuked "newbie" or whatever rank of accounts who get "nuked' can not amount to over a million "brand news" , i do not believe that mods are so active in banning,or are they ?
I can't say. Whoever, they tend to ban A LOT of users. And there are more Newbies spamming the forum than you probably know.Here is a post from Loyce where he lists 567 users who need a ban (I assume most are Newbies): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42653191
Here are more ~600: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42653763
Here are more 2751: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42773062
And there are many many more...
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