Topic: Let's make bitcointalk great again. - page 2. (Read 707 times)

I doubt that in the future, more companies will advertise here. Unless you are saying that more casinos will advertise here. Promotion is easier and reaches more targeted audiences in the social media than the forums. Casinos are promoting here because they are not allowed to promote in many social media platforms. The kind of projects that will come here to promote apart from the casinos should be related to cryptocurrency, such as exchanges, mixers etc. Mixers are gone from the forum and I do not expect any other signature campaign boom in the future unless mixers will return in the future.

Let's keep being here with passion and preserve the legacies of Satoshi Nakamato.

Personally, I agree with you, as I have yet to see such a friendly problem-solving platform. Here, if you need any help with kip to currency, experts come and present their opinions beautifully. Bitcointalk is not just about crypto. It's a hub of technological advancement. In my view, it's a one-stop solution for all system-related issues. Bitcoin's journey to the top is a testament to its continuous progress. Anyone who wants to know something can ask questions openly. Everyone presents and explains beautifully. Everyone is a hero on this forum, so there is no problem. This is a very interesting thing.

This is just the truth that some of us are shying away from. You can not separate human from resources (money) and people will always prefer where there is more money. We can not realize this until the admins decide to ban signature campaigns, the forum will turn to ghost mode with less relevance. Majority of people will leave if that happens. Even people who are genuinely here to contribute and impact others with their knowledge are doing so because of the reward attached to it.

If these incentives are not more, people will become discourage to interact here and the activities will tremendously reduce. Compare a teacher who is getting paid for teaching and the one who is teaching for free, we don't need to be told which one will take the job seriously. Although, I don't blame the admins for their decisions since it was a preventive measure against a greater damage in the future, however, it is good to consider the impact of every decision too. The forum will become valueless even if it remains but no people to engage with one another.

It's normal to experience downfall at some point even in our real lives and we bounce back, I believe the forum will also bounce back to it peak soonest. People are living are people are also coming in, it's a natural phenomenon as every can not be here forever.

Well, lets hope for the best. But things are changing, the crypto market and regulations are changing.

This easy btc we get here in services/reviews/sig may reduce even more in the future, or even disappear...

I think this place will always have technical discussions (just like stackoverflow or reddit), even if activity drops dramatically.

Is it just me or do I see more and more "old members" who think that the forum used to be better before than today? Better in what exactly? More spam, campaigns run by bots, plagiarism everywhere and ranking without merits...

Given that the OP was registered in 2017, I assume that he means that period and the years after that - but the only thing that I miss a bit is the price of BTC, which was several times lower than today, which means that sig campaigns paid more in BTC. Some things are simply the past and you have to come to terms with that - maybe we should be happy that the forum still exists as it is.

BBS -> fora -> social media -> ?? (could be Metaverse)

Few people will understand...

The problem is people nowadays don’t even bother to create a topic for the big news anymore. I’ve been observing this behavior for a very long time.

The biggest one was when binance disabled monero withdrawals and nobody said a word about it for hours till I created a topic about it. Back in the day people were creating multiple topics about big news in every damn subforum.

Now,  nobody cares.

I don't believe that the forum is experiencing a decline in activity at all because even if some users are leaving the forum maybe as a result that there are few signatures campaign that are reputable, productive discussions are still going on in the forum and newbies are also registering almost on daily basis so if there is nothing important going on in the forum that means there would have been a decline in newbies registering but instead it is still on the increase. If we look beyond just signatures campaign and become more productive in the forum, signature campaign payments will just be like a bonus for us when we are making quality discussions in the forum.

This forum is well moderated unlike social media platforms that everyone has the freedom to do and post whatever content they like so people of great intellectuals are more interested in platforms that are moderated and this forum have been one of the best platforms for crypto and other socio-economic discussions.

That's not true, IMO. All these social media are one big "Bitcoin Discussion" board. Reddit and Twitter are filled with bareless speculation, and maybe like 10% "good quality". Nostr is pretty dead last time I visited.

A very cool place for Bitcoin-related discussions is stacker.news. It's like Bitcointalk before it introduced signature campaigns. Everyone's without signatures, or avatars. Just talk and have fun. 

Messengers being the downfall of forums is not something I dont completely agree with.

The people who want to learn about bitcoin, talk and discuss about it with like-minded people will find a second home here, is what I believe in. However the forum could do some polishing on its UI to be able to engage the next generation, even though the status quo might be preferred by most of the people visiting at present, like 2FA was a welcome addition.

Like I said in another thread, if you call something is becoming bad, it will. It is your responsibility to make it good again. Get your local community strengthened and engage in its discussions to actually some newbie who is wondering in the world of crypto scams into the right path.

Of course they are different and bitcointalk is much better for a serious and quality conversations, but how else you think bitcointalk could regain its popularity?

I've been on forums for more than 20 yrars (iirc it was 2001) and situation has never been worse, which of course coincides with people having more options now than for example ~15 years ago which was imho golden forum era.

Nothing.

Nothing will change the current structure of the world Internet.

Forums, as one of the stages in the formation of the Internet, have survived only as a vestige of that old era. The world (technology) does not stand still and therefore messengers now dominate. Of course, some of the forums still exist, but forums will never become as popular as before.

I’m not saying that (advantages and disadvantages) forums are good or bad, it just so happens that now this is not the most widespread type of platform and it will no longer be possible to redirect users from instant messengers. People got used to the new type (shell) of products and adapted to the changes. There is no way back.

You propose the same thing, so that everyone switches from cars to horses. It doesn't work that way.

If you want to make the bitcointalk great again, but you need to change the format to a completely different, updated one, but it will no longer be the same forum that we are all used to.

Your points are valid because you see people complaining in this forum about long posts. Once you put up a long post it is common to see members advising you to summarise your post to enable fast and easy reading. I don't also blame people sometimes for preferring short posts. People don't have much time because they are overworking themselves to survive. These days, if you don't work hard, you might not be able to survive, so people want to learn faster with smart reading. That's why I am trying my best to be financially stable to enable me to exit the rat race. My desire is to retire early and put more time into things that give me satisfaction, not just money.

Social media like Reddit, Twitter and Nostr have absorbed most of the bitcoin-related discussion, and that of other crypto in general, but that doesn't mean that Bitcointalk is useless. In my opinion it is a hybrid between a mailing list and typical social media postings, where you can still have in-depth discussions about things, but you are not going to see a whole lot of memes and trolling until you go somewhere like that Wall Observer thread.

Don't you mean social media instead of instant messengers?

I don't want people to have instant access to my attention, I don't want memes, and I don't want videos. Bitcointalk is fine the way it is.

I'm confused: your title wants to make the forum "great", your post wants to make it "popular". Considering the level of social media, I don't think those two words go together.

I still fined the forum to have improved over the years given that, come the population as we’ve got now, it’s sure to have its dose of troubles too. Though, it doesn’t mean the forum isn’t great anymore, it still is. We have users confined in a niche that, you need to be well grounded to participate ot willing to learn else, you just wouldn’t fit in. I say this with particular reference to the technical discussion board.

While the early adopters was curious, interested about the technology, discussed it with each other and hoped to see it transformed to something great, they still do exists on the forum and a few new users still number in this capacity while, a lot of others just want to make turn overs after turn overs, milking the technology and giving nothing back. Not even some literal piece to improve on what’s available.
Instead, you find users looking out for the next AI to help their course!
Good thing we’ve got users dedicated to tracking these, report and neg tag as it applies. It’s been effective and the fight continues but, this is what happens when you have increased participation and a rapid development in technology.

All that doesn’t mean the forum isn’t great. Rules are still very effective and it’s toxic to law breakers still.

The title topic sounds like Trump's slogan about America.

Now is the time for messengers and short messages. What I noticed was that people stopped reading and communicating with each other. Instead, in instant messengers, speech is reduced and words are replaced by emoticons. People have forgotten how to write and read anything longer than two lines. Of course, this is sad to see, but all we can do for the forum is tell our loved ones about it, or maybe it will be possible to captivate them with questions about Bitcoin.
 And while the number of companies is minimal, only those interested in them will probably remain. It's amazing how many nicknames are memorable, and you always see the same people. Any new name is surprising.

Let me assume on the fact that I recently came into the bitcointalk forum and probably may have missed out previous happenings which may have been assumed that the the forum was little declined from gaining more or maintaining its popularity as though said Op.
But up to the era I became familiar with the forum, I learnt that it's has been one of an ancient existing platform which I've come across on the internet but unknowingly to me that I never knew the valuable potential not until I was recommended due to the fact that I had interest on Investing on bitcoin and exploit in the crypto sphere.
To me the forum is best regarded and commendable by the way it's today, let it remain on the low without being architects to hyping or turning into one of the social medias where people wouldn't be guided of morales and the highily terms and conditions of the forum wellbeing.
Maybe such designated submissive should be of the AltCoins and the MemeCoins that're based on hyping and the childish speculations just to attract investors. Behold, this is primarily bitcointalk platform while others are attached. The public related orientation of bitcoin enthusiaste relating to the public is that you shouldn't convince anyone to invest on bitcoin but let them decide for themselves. Definitely the forum stands as equivalent to such regards of bitcoin reputability.
My thought though.

No need to change about the forum, but it’s most likely the forum members should improve theirselves so that the forum will remain its significance on educating and spreading the right information and insights. If other people will see this, they will no longer resort into finding other forums but stick to bitcointalk.

Bitcointalk is still definitely the most popular when google, as much as it can be the highly significant one when moderators don’t tolerate spams and fake information all throughout the forum.

The decline in popularity does not apply only to this forum (like all other forums), but it is a trend for the website industry in general. There are more and more projects, businesses... that have a website only for information and basically rely on hosted services beyond that.
Various social media, YouTube, GitHub etc...are taking over the dominance, also most services without a mobile app seem to not exist.