Topic: Let's make bitcointalk great again. - page 3. (Read 712 times)

Unfortunately, signature campaigns lead the forum's trends, so if you think that the forum has become a thing, this means that campaign managers need more effort.
The worst thing is the scarcity of non-gambling campaigns, but nevertheless, spending time without paid posts is fun.

Have you ever thought of how impossible it'd be to moderate spam and unwanted post if the forum was as free as what social medias look like? Lemme make a little specificity on it; Facebook has a very effective word filter for a lot of derogatory words. If you ever go against their community standards, a ban is issued out immediately.. in some cases, people could maneuver with their words, adding signs and full stops just to convey their exact thoughts... If that happens in Bitcointalk, with time, it'd become one of the most terrible places to visit.

It's the least thing on my expectation list... As long as the value of Bitcoin increases, it'll always commensurate their desired pay rate... Everything can be recycled, maybe that's just what we gotta realize soon enough.

I don't think we should compare forums with social media platforms or instant messaging apps because they have different purposes altogether, and besides, those who were into forums from the beginning would never turn their backs on them only because there are instant messaging apps available now, similarly, those who were always into those things where there is more user-friendliness and convenience for using the platforms such as easy exchange of information, sending and receiving pictures and videos would barely be interested in forums in the first place because they never were into such things.

I have always been fond of forums, be it this one or any other, because I have always known and believed that forums are the epitome of knowledge. The knowledge that you might not find anywhere in the world wide web might be found in a forum somewhere because people share their experiences in such places and there is nothing more valuable than an experience shared, it gives you a clear idea of what you are looking for.

So, the popularity of this forum or others haven't dropped because of the advent in the social messaging platforms but it's just that most people aren't completely aware of what we have in here. It could be a lack of marketing, maybe.

Bitcointalk will remain as main sources for influencers on Facebook, Twitter especially Twitter when they need to find something about Bitcoin history, the founder, milestones in Bitcoin adoption and developments. I have seen many times influencers, centralized exchanges dig into the forum and find such information.

Help and get help educationally in Bitcointalk forum is classic, it's hard to find it in other online platforms, I agree with you Pmalek.

It's sad that the forum already lost o_e_l_e_o months ago. I hope o_e_l_e_o is still fine and enjoys happy life with his family.

Far in the past, the forum lost Andreas Antonopoulos and Jameson Lopp. The second person still logged in the forum to announce his fix on Bitcoin Confirmation Risk Calculator tool.

When it comes to getting help and assistance in solving specific problems, the knowledge roaming around on Bitcointalk and among its members isn't something you will find on Facebook, Twitter, and other social media platforms. Bitcointalk was and remains #1 in that aspect. I think Bitcoin StackExchange takes the second spot in terms of quality posts.

I guess Telegram is what you're mentioning the instant messaging app but it's serves completely different purposes and most often telegram communities of crypto doesn't involve any discussions they just share news which is likely be one time bump and dump scheme.

Bitcointalk is still great in terms of quality.

If you want to see more numbers then revoke merit system then you will see account farmers will take down the quality by bombarding thousands of posts everyday, so great=quality not quantity.

There were auto-join sig camps in 2017 and the most famous one was bitm-xer’s camp. It was awesome we were getting paid in flat btc rate and btc was mooning. People were drowning in money. Now most good campaigns pay in btc again but they pay us its usd equivalent (50-100 usd), merit system also slowed things down a lot.

2017 was a spamfest but people made lots of and lots of money during that time. It was awesome. I don’t think we’ll experience something like that ever again in the future

Firstly Op let me start by spotting out the fact that I don't believe this forum has lost its level of popularity in any way. In fact it is actually safe to say that it has even gained more popularity over the course of the recent bull run and other things like conjestions that also occured. Saying that this forum has reduced in popularity to me simply means you are indirectly spotting out the fact that the forum traffic has dropped to some certain extent.

The most that I can agree to is that over the course of a few years we have lost some legends on the forum like the likes of o_e_l_e_o and light warrior. The fact is things will still go on as normal and over time users will come up to assume the spots of those legends.

We would gain nothing here if the population was here and didn't make a quality impact. It's better to be on average and maintain a serene forum environment where readers can get the actual information they need. A library is best being quiet. When a library is populated and noise erupts due to a high range of unserious readers, there is only two ways to handle such thing. Is either the serious readers leaves there for the unserious ones or the management places a strict rule that will expell unseriousness in the library, and maintain quietness thereby reducing the number of people who visits there.

Technically this is a self interest board. More like an online Bitcoin library.You can't find a place like this on any social media. Fine, on there you'd be able to see niches on Bitcoin, but the contents are not arranged like it is here, and many of them don't rank on search engines. Bitcoin talk is great except for the fact that members feel that great users are reducing in number. However, it takes time to learn a lot of a new technology like Bitcoin. As the forum is filled with users who are barely 5 years downwards since their membership here.

I understand that most people stopped getting an easy usage of the forum due to the restrictions on low quality posts and spamming. Lots of new members left the forum as most of their posts got reported and deleted for some good reason. The forum would have been in a serious mess if all sort of unmoderated posts were left floating around causing misinformation and low rate of learning. Nothing is wrong with the forum. We are growing.

All social media don't even need to disappear first before Bitcointalk can regain its glory; both are there to serve different purposes, and aside from that, social media can't replace Bitcointalk; at least the ones that I'm seeing now can't replace Bitcointalk based on how this forum operates.

There is a lot of spam and scam going on those social media sites, with a lot of fake information flying here, and it's not like here, where members dedicate their time to eradicate such.
 
This forum creates a wider learning environment, and its design for that purpose compares to how social media is designed, where they are mainly focused on what they could get from users traffic and the rest of them.

If the goal of boosting popularity is to compete with social media apps to communicate then this is almost impossible to achieve since forum is far too outdated to compete with that no matter what campaign we use to boost popularity. I bet all members here has social media account that is frequently being use than the forum in terms of communication.

In regard with popularity against other forum. Bitcointalk is still the top forum when it comes to crypto discussion forum. I read bunch of discussion on reddit and other crypto forum but all of them doesn’t have much substantial input compared to the knowledge being shared by knowledgeable forum member here.

Bitcointalk is still the number 1 forum for crypto discussion.

Let me also add that the invention of Artificial intelligence tools has also changed the medium from which the younger generation obtains information. These young people are not patient enough to search for information from traditional forums. They can just get the knowledge they desire cheaply by using chatbots. Young people are also more interested in learning easily through videos rather than writing. I don't know much about the reduction in the number of interesting topics, but it might be an indication that old-quality posters that are leaving the forum are not replaced accordingly.

I believe the reduction in the number of active members here in the forum can be traced back to the ban on mixers and other little personal decisions for members who feel like leaving, starting with the ban on the first mixer, which was seized by the three later governments, which was one of the highest-paying campaigns. After it was banned, some of the participants who I see wearing their signatures are no longer active.
 
Another reason, which I can also say contributes to the reduction of activities on the forum, aside from the lack of campaign, could also be a lack of interesting topics, which I have seen a lot of members talk about. Aside from the campaign earnings, there are those who are here based on the kind of topic of interest they always come across, and if such a topic is no longer here, then they will have to leave the forum.

All other socoal media and means of communciation should disappear in order for bitcointalk to regain his older glory, and since that of course won't, happen its best to accept the reality and gradual decline. All we can hope for is that decline will be slow so we can enjoy in bitcointalk for many years to come (which I think we will).

I don't think there is much that can be done. Life runs its course. With time, people become bored and want a change. The older forum members who made this forum what it is are slowly leaving, but they aren't being replaced with the same quality in the younger folks.

Trying to make the forum important again is like trying to make tape recorders popular again. People don't want tapes and cassettes anymore. Their interests lie elsewhere.
One thing the admins could do is not make new rule changes that will affect forum activity. Looking at it from an activity point of view only, banning mixers was a bad decision. Those discussions that would have taken place on Bitcointalk are now happening elsewhere. Signature campaigns are important whether we like it or not. More changes like that could have similar results. 

Thank you for sharing the same views and adding more substance to my position. It actually feel so strange when posts about the declined popularity of the forum pops up every now as if the forum is ending any time soon. The more we make the forum all about signature campaign, even though this is also important, the more we kill the fun of being here. The reduction in traffic is understandable and completely natural because most of the products banned in this forum were among the major contributor to the forum traffic. Everything cannot automatically return to normal but will require some time for the traffic to come back when more projects find here worthy of their marketing. We can also see that within this same period, many new companies, mostly in the casino businesses, have also joined the forum and more will still come.

As far as cryptocurrency is concerned, the forum is outstanding, the bounty section is bubbling and new members are join the forum at an alarming rate even though there also a few people retiring from the forum too.

I have not been in the forum for a long time but I have always heard from older members that the population has reduced. From my few years, I have also observed that a few well-grounded members have also left the forum due to some reasons. Apart from that, the only issue that I have observed is a reduction in the number of campaigns. There is always a time for everything in life and one can do nothing about such situations.

When I saw the title Let's Make Bitcointalk Great Again, I assumed that OP wanted to come up with some opinion that would attract more members to the forum. Bitcointalk is still the number one platform when it comes to Bitcoin discussions and I think it will maintain the position for a long time. But we cannot also deny the fact younger people are now more interested in getting information from other sources. We all know that one of the ways to bring more people to the forum is when there are more avenues to get rewarded.

If to make the forum popular again, it needs to turn to be a social media platform, it's ton of tasks to do and I can not imagine how I use the forum like X. I barely use X to be honest.

Frankly when I joined the forum 7 years ago, I did not feel comfortable with forum infrastructure and text discussions but now I love it and this style. If I have to use it like X or Facebook, I would feel I lose something.

These spam activities from bounty hunters are visualized with charts there
Time Series on monthly statistics of forum (new users, new topics, new posts)

I believe the Bitcointalk forum remains popular today. Maybe many old accounts have left the forum for whatever reason we don't know. but there will always be new members registering.
I don't clearly understand the level of popularity you mean. but if you refer to @Solosanz's reply, perhaps most of those who disappeared from the forum no longer earn money from the forum. so they leave temporarily or indefinitely.

In terms of wider popularity, I think it will come when Bitcoin is finally used as an alternative legal means of payment throughout the world in transactions for goods or services. Certainly, the popularity of forums that focus on discussing Bitcoin over a very long time will increase in popularity.

This forum is still very popular, and ranking very high in any Google search.

Just search for technical questions and topics, bitcointalk is always among the first results

What OP wants is just more money from signature campaigns.. which are a privilege,  not a metric of the success of the forum.