Topic: Let's stand against Bounty Scammer. - page 3. (Read 977 times)

Newbies cannot join signature campaigns, one must obtain at least one merit to be able to move up to the next rank, and I think Jr member is the minimum rank for ICO bounties, not newbie.
I do not even think this is a "rank" issue, anyone can create spam and also be a scammer, we are all aware of the dangers ico bounties possess irrespective of who creates the bounty thread or not.

The thing is sticking with the BTC campaigns so one doesn't waste his or her time, there are many established forum users that run BTC campaigns and haven't had any dent on their reputation, that's the sort of campaign one should be on, anything short of that should be avoided.

Been a bounty hunter for almost 2.5 years now and I already experienced many shady projects some are failed projects, some decreased the allocated bounty and changed the rules as stated in the first day of campaign and one of the worst bounty I ever joined is one project that requires hunters to pay eth to be able to receive your bounty Im sure many of hunters here knew this project A****t lol, What I want to discuss is how we can prevent this problems to happen again in the future? Im thinking of not allowing newbies or low rank members to create bounty threads, only the ones who are trusted enough from Full member and above can create threads and also not allowing newbies to bounty section because they are one who are creating spams and joining scam bounties they need to learn first how to make a research before joining bounty and at-least reached to Jr member rank to be able to join.  

I have experienced before to promote some ICOs and joined to their bounties but 2 of the ICOs campaigns are scam.
I just received a coin which is no value until now and the one which is not distributing stakes. I thought it won't happen to me even I search about their project and check their participants with a high trust score they still end up scam.

What I think is to prevent or to avoid more bounty scammer is someone(trusted high rank member) should hold or deposit a good amount of BTC to verify that the project is legit or if the team is going to scam bounty users will still get their rewards by requesting who holds the deposit amount.
Or I hope the forum moderators should take action like deleting bounties which is posted by newbie or copper members. No proper bounty campaign manager should remove on the bounty section so that it can prevent more people to scam from fake bounties.

1: 100 to find a bounty that really pays at this time. very difficult to find a bounty that does pay / a real project. I joined dozens of bounties this year, but it was not worth the income from what was done.

I agree with the OP, if there is a bounty or the project is unclear. As a bounty hunter, we must fight it. if not, what will happen in the future, the real project will be devoid of investors (it can be said that the project failed).

Communities are an important part of project growth, without communities there is very little possibility that the project will progress. But many projects now don't treat their communities well, they don't even pay what their communities should get. Community support for this project will increase the popularity of the product and its price in the market, perhaps. But if they leave their community, shitcoin seems appropriate for the project.

Scamming bounty participants is an unbelievable shady and sad move to despice the community. If the project will be launched and finally listed but not pay bounty, I consider a bounty scam the same way like a normal scam. The team has set up rules and if they don't respect them, the case is clear. They expect the same from bounty hunters so why should the team be treated in a special way?

No project can live without community and if projects start treating the community like that they'll have a dead coin very soon (and it's deserved).

Bounty business has completely gone mad while I've still the hope reliable projects take their chance to launch an outstanding campaign among all the other shady shitcoins. At least that wouldn't be difficult right now. 


Yes, KYC-Scams are the worst ones. First announcing that no KYC is required, the users join and after the bounty is closed it's announced that KYC is required because the lawyers "suddenly" notice it is necessary (or similar lies). The case is often very clear:
- save payment by weeding out users who won't submit their personal documents for a possibly worthless shitcoin
- or if the project is a scam it's an easy way to collect personal data by the scammers and commit fraud
In both cases the shitcoin devs are literally blackmailing all users to submit KYC or if they don't submit it they will receive no pay for work already done (according the rules). That's so shady, I can't eat as much as I want to puke.
Most likely they won't have the same number of users if they'd announced their shitty KYC before people joined. 

Feel free to post it here. We had some cases in the past where we put pressure on the devs to pay according to the rules without KYC. After their account was heavily tagged and flagged they started to get communicative. 

The best which we could do over here is to avoid participating in ICO based bounties and need to form a federation wherein we need to demand them to pay us weekly through any of the listed coins rather than cheating us in the hope of tokens which we rarely receive and even that too when the project fails. We need to learn from the past as bounties are not helping anyone nowadays due to the fact that most of them are scam.

Worked for months but got nothing , I hope there will be no  scam bounty in the future Because it's just a waste of time and harm others .
Many investors are harmed in their scam project, let's hope that the scammer will be destroyed on this earth !

I don't think anyone will be able to withstand the tide of bounty hunters to join the bounty. Most of them did not check the validity of the project, which also applied to me at first. But by the way you warn about risk and time wasted, they will also begin to realize to be more careful in supporting one or two bounty.

If these projects have the public announcement of the people who stand by them, then it certainly makes a difference that we show who they are, and thus at least destroy their reputation. That way, at least those same people won't be able to personally do something similar, because they will be labeled as scammers.

But most newbies will fall in the same trap more then once, even if they see red trust, flags and all other possible warnings. Knowledge is the key to success, and most of those who do bounty campaigns without any knowledge or experience serve as cheap or in most cases completely free labor.

We can not hold thousands of people to hand and guide them some safe way, we can only warn them of the risks arising out of this type of possible earnings, and maybe save some of them from disappointment and wasted time.

Can destroying/ruining the reputation of those projects who already scammed them make any kind of difference? For projects who are still being traded yes but for ICOs who pulled off an exit scam I don't think voicing out your concern would make any difference on being paid back for your services. Bounty hunting is still a tricky way to earn since it's like ICO hunting where you need to DYOR in order to lessen your chances on being part of the scam, most newbies here don't want to promote a scam but due to their carelessness and thirst for money they still join shady projects because they only see the pay out.

I think it is the bounty hunters who determine how Scam projects work.
If you are going to get thousands of people promoting your project without checking out the project developers (team members,) whitepaper, money/coins guarantee, plans, and other fundamentals, they won't put much effort into improving their project.
Also, applying for a lot of projects without paying attention to their legitimacy or ensuring that they will pay will make them more greedy and try to create more and more scam projects.

This has become very rampant but I'm lucky that I got all my stakes from all the bounty campaign, but if they scam bounty hunters, they should promote that bounty campaign as a scam if you do bounty in facebook then promote that project as a scam project in your facebook account and if you are a blogger and participated in their bounty campaign then post that it's a scam project for not paying you

1 month from now, I will be posting a bounty that has a trait of scam. after we have finish promoting their project, they suddenly decide to conduct a KYC process which makes the bounty participants mad. they rush to close the KYC process just for 1 week. after 1 year they open the KYC form again and this time I already sent them my info. I have a total of 1.9 ETH of the rewards calculated by the current price today in the market. If they don't give me my due, after sending them the proof they asked for, I will name that project here in this thread. so you guys will see what kind of project I'm talking about.

Protecting people from being scammed is, besides what one can gather on their own, a community based feature, generally expressed through the Trust System and/or Trust flags and/or Scam accusations. If, as you say, you have strong compelling evidence of forum members that plan to promote scams, knowing that to be true, then by all means present it, with all the evidence you have. If your evicence is firm, it will probably be backed by others, giving more weight to the Trust valuation.

I've seen few telegram groups in the past that tried to organize bounty hunters to start some action against projects that refused to pay them or changed rules after bounty is over dramatically, but unfortunately seems like all of them failed to last a bit longer, or to gain significant amount of followers. As you said, few thousand of bounty hunters can really create a lot of buzz, so those projects would be less inclined to attempt such a thing.

With that being said, bounty hunters should be more vigilant when choosing which bounty campaign to enter, especially if you are doing something more demanding like signature campaign or content creation. I understand that those that are doing twitter/fb part  of the campaign don't really choose or check much, but others that invest significant amount of time should really be thorough, after all you are investing your time, and  for me time=money.

Tag or by supporting flags will not change anything. We are doing it just for mark them, they really don't care about tag when they are already skip with million. I am asking make sound against them, it's not only on this forum. Call them scammer on every platform that hunters were promoted. So almost it will be viral and they might not scam any new investors. At least we might prevent some traders. Because when traders will know about their scam history then they won't trade their coins. Hunters only could do that like before they have done promotion.

What about me? is there any protection for me?
I have strong evidence and want to complete several well-known managers who plan to promote fraudulent projects and there are even some projects that they have managed for 2-3 months.
they don't work alone, you will be surprised that they actually work with some other famous managers.

Not possible. Many bounty hunters that joining in social media is not really a bitcointalk user. They are just creating a newbie account to comply with rules in social media bounties.
You can see it for yourself on the Bounty Thread. They keep posting reports even though there is a note that the bounty program is already finished. I think they are using script to automatically
post there report in the thread.

Apparently, they're taking their chances to earn even they know they the risk beyond it. However, few times are enough not to continue wasting time and better yet move on.

Perhaps, even ICOs regain their spot, people won't buy it anymore because of the risk and definitely just a waste of time and money.

I guess everyone here should boycott the bounty campaigns, let's see if they can still raise the money they needed.