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Topic: Let's stand against Bounty Scammer. (Read 958 times)

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December 11, 2019, 11:25:18 AM
#66
After several months of promoting a bounty, you will still wait tirelessly for months again to receive your reward token in your portfolio. Anyway you won't blame them cos nobody knows it will turn up that way because of the present market condition. It's hard these days to see a token that worth 0.1 per token after the bounty distribution to bounty hunters. The price always ranges from 0.001-0.0005 per token. Which is more better of not having their token at all


Yup because there are a lot of ICO project do release then the investor don't know where they do invest for a good project. As I see there are a lot of participants who have a lot of shitcoin because every year there has a reducing chance of good ICO because of scammers growth. It also affect the price of the bitcoin or in other crypto currency.
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December 10, 2019, 01:10:20 PM
#65
After several months of promoting a bounty, you will still wait tirelessly for months again to receive your reward token in your portfolio. Anyway you won't blame them cos nobody knows it will turn up that way because of the present market condition. It's hard these days to see a token that worth 0.1 per token after the bounty distribution to bounty hunters. The price always ranges from 0.001-0.0005 per token. Which is more better of not having their token at all
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December 05, 2019, 04:28:52 AM
#64
We all have to stand against this bounty scammer. The number of scammers has increased so we do not get any tokens that work exactly for them and some tokens are considered scams. Because of this scam, many are being harmed by investing so we should all participate in the graceful publicity that the Bounty guarantees in our work.

You can't call everyone scammers, often they just can't raise enough money to continue developing the project and then it's a fall and not a scam.

However, it is true that bounty hunters should start working together and discuss which projects they think are real and which ones are scams. I think that common analysis would help to identify scam projects faster and more accurately.
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Pepemo.vip
December 04, 2019, 11:49:15 AM
#63
Some of the campaign today are legit and paying but not at all. Even thou they are paying the value of reward is really not worth the task you have completed and promoting it on social media.

That's why it is very hard to find a legit campaign and only few that has potential and a dedicated team that care for their members.

Actually the rewards are still very high and thats the thing that attract many bounty hunters. The problem is that when they go trade on exchange, most bounty hunters sell their coins and dump the price. Therefore, instead of 100% of the reward value, we receive tokens with a value of 10% or less of the initial reward.
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December 04, 2019, 11:14:58 AM
#62
Some of the campaign today are legit and paying but not at all. Even thou they are paying the value of reward is really not worth the task you have completed and promoting it on social media.

That's why it is very hard to find a legit campaign and only few that has potential and a dedicated team that care for their members.
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December 04, 2019, 09:24:18 AM
#61
We all have to stand against this bounty scammer. The number of scammers has increased so we do not get any tokens that work exactly for them and some tokens are considered scams. Because of this scam, many are being harmed by investing so we should all participate in the graceful publicity that the Bounty guarantees in our work.
hero member
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December 04, 2019, 06:18:39 AM
#60
even many projects have reached softcap but still a scam, and this proves that they are not serious in working on projects.
Especially now that people's trust on ICO has dropped, so they will be difficult to reached softcap, and I think ico is dead, and replaced by IEO because they are team up with big exchanges.
Yes i agree. I see other project still running while not reached softcap. They return all money from investor and do other way to reach their softcap.


Could you give an example of such a situation in which developers did not achieve softcap, give money back to investors and continue project development?
I am asking because if developers are focused on project development regardless of the amount they accumulate, they simply do not specify a softcap.
/Sorry, for off-top

this was about 2 years ago, there was a project and they had reached the softcap, then they said they would focus on the development of the project. but in fact, they are a scam. I have got the tokens that until now cannot be cashed in. in my opinion, even though they focus on the project but lack of funds, it will be difficult. even they think to scam. if there are projects that return investors' funds it is extraordinary, because most of them become a scammer.

If they collect the softcap and disappear, this is a classic scam.
I am asking about the situation in which the softcap was not collected but the project is still being developed.
In this situation, giving money back to investors is very rare and also show that developers are very focused on the success of the project and not only on raising funds. Unfortunately, but bounty hunters also do not receive a reward, but we can not call it a scam, but only failed ICO (as failed fundraising).
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November 27, 2019, 12:49:52 PM
#59
Even those that manages to get listed on good exchanges still end up not paying bounty hunters for example Nestree project, qualified bounty hunters get tokens on spreadsheet but they tokens are not sent to wallets, some do get theirs but not everybody
sr. member
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November 27, 2019, 10:55:58 AM
#58
It is really hard to participate in bounty campaigns.nowadays, there are a lot of scam projects that keep promoting in the market. As a bounty hunters, we have financial obligations in promoting campaigns thats why we should only participate in projects that are promising.
sr. member
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November 26, 2019, 09:33:26 AM
#57
As my title says, "Let's stand against bounty scammer". Do you know what is bounty scammer? Those project doesn't want to distribute stake of bounty hunters, I called them Bounty scammer.

It's been noticed lot of project just skipping after end of campaign. They even trying to listing their project on big exchange like Binace. (For example Vidy project) but they failed on voting fortunately. They scam bounty hunters mean had not paid stake. We can't take any action against them since all the fund on their hand. But I am upset about that, any bounty hunters not made sound against them. Some others who isn't victims they are making sound.


Bounty hunters ! You are the one who is promoting a project via Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Telegram, YouTube and some other social media. But after posting (spamming) on social media all hunters just become freeze. They forget about projects those they had promoted. They just care whatever they received. So why are you spamming on this forum and other social media if you can't ask them about your stake? Who is scammer I have no comment about them like fake team and so on, but those project is live and trading on some exchange then you might take some action against them.

Bounty scammer just not scammed you, they are scamming new peoples continuously. They are selling your token through exchange. Their intention isn't good, so they will just sold their token those are holding with them. Means listing on exchange is another opportunity to scam more peoples. Once their all token will sold out they will become freeze and token price will dump to near ZERO. Means so many traders will counter scam once again.


So what you would do? You also responsible for that scam. Who know how many peoples were invested on that scam project by visiting your post on social media. If like that happen you might take some action against. Post against bounty scammer like when you had posted during boulty campaign. Write against them and use hash tag like #scam and so on. Make thread against them on this forum and do free bounty once again against scammer. Write to the exchange where trading currently about their history. Write on exchange's social media so everyone will aware about their corruption. And trader will not fall into their project. Almost 10K to 15K user promote bounty campaign. So if all users make sound against bounty scammer and write social media then so many peoples would save their money and hunter also might get back their token when the project will see sound against them.  Only hunters could so that. You promote them free so write once again against them free. Show them you can do, tell them you were a part of their projects.


Perhaps my post will look like unrealistic to some peoples, but hunters could made it.

Once you enter a certain project, it is already your responsibility if you are going to get scammed or not. If at first you carefully analyzed and observed the project to see its credibility, then you wouldn't fall into their trap. Though there are some expert scammers in the game, you should pay double caution whenever joining a project. It is really necessary to stand against them if ever you encounter one so that you can save other people's time and effort on joining a fraud project. Make a move, even the smallest one, cause it may impact massively on someone in need.
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November 26, 2019, 09:19:09 AM
#56
As a member of this forum, we have also liability for those people who got scammed by promoting and joining in.bounty campaigns that are not promising. We should only participate to bounty campaign that we can sure that it is promising where many people will become benefited.
hero member
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November 25, 2019, 05:03:02 AM
#55
The forum itself stand against bounty scammers that's why you see DT members willing to support flag or tagged accomplice of this scam against humanity because that's what this scammers are doing. They use the hunters as slave and once they have achieved their goals via marketing and publicity, they refused to pay their employees (bounty participants).

We should focus more on encouraging affected users to expose this guys as they aren't exposing this scammers when they get scam. Not enough affected users are participating in accusation thread which just goes to show how less concerned about the issue they're. For affected users, you can always request for flag support or negative feedback related to Bounty & Bounty Manager scam on this thread and you'll get the support you need from me. I have been affected once and I know how it feels when you help a project get the publicity they desire but end up treating you badly (as a slave).
This will continue if we dont ensure that Bitcointalk forum is more involve in the campaign than the telegram. I dont know how this can work but have seen series of reaction from such projects on telegram, they dont just care. Sometimes they just close the bounty thread of the project with no prior information. They should bring an admin in the forum to moderate the announcement thread not bounty manager. The thread should be same as they post on the coingecko or CMC. This will get those altcoin more active in the forum and we might new investors and see some members some back in the forum
legendary
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November 25, 2019, 04:47:20 AM
#54
I have the impression that you do not know the bounty campaigns market well.. Unfortunately, but 99% bounty campaigns pay in tokens that will be distributed if the token sale succeeds.
You are right, I don't know much about it.

The difference between token payment and campaigns paid in established cryptocurrencies is that bounty in tokens has several times higher rates than campaigns paid in BTC, ETH or other altcoins. This is what attracts bounty hunters. Unfortunately, but many of them have not yet understood that the higher rates a bounty campaign offers, the more likely it is a scam.
On paper the rates seem higher but in reality that is not really the case. All those new ICOs that keep popping up are promising high rewards but only IF they make hardcap. They rarely do and as soon as the token gets listed on an exchange what do you get? An 80% drop in the value due to everyone selling and because people are selling it on DEX-es like ForkDelta.

That promise of $1 million bounty pool that these projects advertise soon turns into a $50.000 pool and you don't even get that because it gets lowered since the project didn't go as planned during the ICO.   
legendary
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November 24, 2019, 11:50:02 AM
#53
even many projects have reached softcap but still a scam, and this proves that they are not serious in working on projects.
Especially now that people's trust on ICO has dropped, so they will be difficult to reached softcap, and I think ico is dead, and replaced by IEO because they are team up with big exchanges.
Yes i agree. I see other project still running while not reached softcap. They return all money from investor and do other way to reach their softcap.


Could you give an example of such a situation in which developers did not achieve softcap, give money back to investors and continue project development?
I am asking because if developers are focused on project development regardless of the amount they accumulate, they simply do not specify a softcap.
/Sorry, for off-top

this was about 2 years ago, there was a project and they had reached the softcap, then they said they would focus on the development of the project. but in fact, they are a scam. I have got the tokens that until now cannot be cashed in. in my opinion, even though they focus on the project but lack of funds, it will be difficult. even they think to scam. if there are projects that return investors' funds it is extraordinary, because most of them become a scammer.
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November 24, 2019, 11:08:45 AM
#52
It is very simple! Don't take part in bounties that don't pay in Bitcoin, Ethereum or another listed coin. In some way the bounty hunters allow the scams to happen. You are satisfied getting paid in a currency that is not listed anywhere and likely never will be.

If more and more bounty hunters refused to take part in non-BTC/ETH paying campaigns those few campaigns that are legit would have no other option but to change their approach and start giving out a legit currency instead of their native one. The bounty industry would in that case either die out completely or you would only have a handful of legit bounties every year that will pay up. Combine that with requesting that the bounties escrow their funds and you have yourself a good deal.

But none of that will ever happen because the majority of bounty participants don't respect themselves and even less the industry. Nothing will change and more scams will happen.   

That is one best solution for them to take their project seriously because they are going to be losing money and not the worthless tokens they are going to distribute. Even if they send the allocated bounty tokens to an escrow or to the bounty manager, the tokens are still going to be worthless if they aren't listed it to the market.

Some of them are keeping the hope of the holders but they don't distribute the bounty while the tokens are already traded on horrible exchange. This could be because the market isn't yet improving but it doesn't make sense to list it in the first place or better yet don't ask funds instead.
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November 24, 2019, 10:57:25 AM
#51
even many projects have reached softcap but still a scam, and this proves that they are not serious in working on projects.
Especially now that people's trust on ICO has dropped, so they will be difficult to reached softcap, and I think ico is dead, and replaced by IEO because they are team up with big exchanges.
Yes i agree. I see other project still running while not reached softcap. They return all money from investor and do other way to reach their softcap.


Could you give an example of such a situation in which developers did not achieve softcap, give money back to investors and continue project development?
I am asking because if developers are focused on project development regardless of the amount they accumulate, they simply do not specify a softcap.

/Sorry, for off-top
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November 24, 2019, 10:00:10 AM
#50
even many projects have reached softcap but still a scam, and this proves that they are not serious in working on projects.
Especially now that people's trust on ICO has dropped, so they will be difficult to reached softcap, and I think ico is dead, and replaced by IEO because they are team up with big exchanges.
Yes i agree. I see other project still running while not reached softcap. They return all money from investor and do other way to reach their softcap.
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November 24, 2019, 09:50:56 AM
#49
Worked for months but got nothing , I hope there will be no  scam bounty in the future Because it's just a waste of time and harm others .
Many investors are harmed in their scam project, let's hope that the scammer will be destroyed on this earth !
thats the hardest part being a bounty hunter after working for months and till the last day of the campaign you wont get any reward because the project went to scam.

There are only two ways to reduce the risk of being scammed: Very deep analysis of the dev team and the project, or not joining a campaign that have no collateral or pays in BTC, ETH or other exchangable cryptocurrencies.
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November 24, 2019, 09:21:05 AM
#48
Worked for months but got nothing , I hope there will be no  scam bounty in the future Because it's just a waste of time and harm others .
Many investors are harmed in their scam project, let's hope that the scammer will be destroyed on this earth !
thats the hardest part being a bounty hunter after working for months and till the last day of the campaign you wont get any reward because the project went to scam.
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November 24, 2019, 09:04:09 AM
#47
It is very simple! Don't take part in bounties that don't pay in Bitcoin, Ethereum or another listed coin. In some way the bounty hunters allow the scams to happen. You are satisfied getting paid in a currency that is not listed anywhere and likely never will be.

If more and more bounty hunters refused to take part in non-BTC/ETH paying campaigns those few campaigns that are legit would have no other option but to change their approach and start giving out a legit currency instead of their native one. The bounty industry would in that case either die out completely or you would only have a handful of legit bounties every year that will pay up. Combine that with requesting that the bounties escrow their funds and you have yourself a good deal.

But none of that will ever happen because the majority of bounty participants don't respect themselves and even less the industry. Nothing will change and more scams will happen.   

I have the impression that you do not know the bounty campaigns market well.. Unfortunately, but 99% bounty campaigns pay in tokens that will be distributed if the token sale succeeds. The difference between token payment and campaigns paid in established cryptocurrencies is that bounty in tokens has several times higher rates than campaigns paid in BTC, ETH or other altcoins. This is what attracts bounty hunters. Unfortunately, but many of them have not yet understood that the higher rates a bounty campaign offers, the more likely it is a scam.
legendary
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November 24, 2019, 04:01:43 AM
#46
It is very simple! Don't take part in bounties that don't pay in Bitcoin, Ethereum or another listed coin. In some way the bounty hunters allow the scams to happen. You are satisfied getting paid in a currency that is not listed anywhere and likely never will be.

If more and more bounty hunters refused to take part in non-BTC/ETH paying campaigns those few campaigns that are legit would have no other option but to change their approach and start giving out a legit currency instead of their native one. The bounty industry would in that case either die out completely or you would only have a handful of legit bounties every year that will pay up. Combine that with requesting that the bounties escrow their funds and you have yourself a good deal.

But none of that will ever happen because the majority of bounty participants don't respect themselves and even less the industry. Nothing will change and more scams will happen.   
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Pepemo.vip
November 23, 2019, 10:34:54 PM
#45
Very informative thread! Which is the most trustworthy platform for bounty hunters?


This thread is not about the bounty platform, but about the bounty campaigns that is being launched in this forum. More precisely, about the fact that very often participants in these campaigns are scammed by developers.

More about bounty campaigns you can find here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0
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November 21, 2019, 06:06:59 AM
#44
Very informative thread! Which is the most trustworthy platform for bounty hunters?
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Pepemo.vip
November 20, 2019, 01:47:03 AM
#43
I've been telling people not to participate in bounty campaigns that don't have collateral and can't prove the value of their tokens but it's like talking to a wall. There are people out there who have no money at all and they will work for as little as a promise of some imaginary payment. They don't know how much they'll get and when that will happen but it's still better than nothing. Nobody is as easily exploited as the poor guy and most crypto startups take advantage of this. They offer a giveaway that's literally worth a dollar and watch people from Africa and Asia register accounts and promote their platform with referral links.

Unfortunately, there is practically no bounty campaign with collateral. In the case of the ICO market, this is how bounty looks like. When the market was in good condition, almost all projects were successful. Now that there is a lack of new capital it is much more difficult. Bounty hunters have to decide for themselves whether to wait for better times or to analyze projects well and choose only those that have a good chance of success. I don't think that ICE, IEO, STO bounty campaigns will be ever been secured because this is why they are looking for fundraising, because the developers have no funds.
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November 10, 2019, 12:06:09 PM
#42
I've been telling people not to participate in bounty campaigns that don't have collateral and can't prove the value of their tokens but it's like talking to a wall. There are people out there who have no money at all and they will work for as little as a promise of some imaginary payment. They don't know how much they'll get and when that will happen but it's still better than nothing. Nobody is as easily exploited as the poor guy and most crypto startups take advantage of this. They offer a giveaway that's literally worth a dollar and watch people from Africa and Asia register accounts and promote their platform with referral links.
legendary
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November 10, 2019, 10:40:12 AM
#41
The project failed and that was a scam for the bounty hunter? I don't think this is true! The project developers tried to develop it, but the project failed and they couldn't send hunters bonus tokens of no value! Besides, successful projects, listed on trading platforms, did not reward hunters, which is a scam.

There is certain project that distributes their tokens, even though their sales was failed to collect necessary funds to develop their project. I remember that I joined some of those projects in my early years here in the forum. If you check my ETH address here: https://ethplorer.io/address/0xc2c384240366b209c75ef9b730fe136ce1789f6f
you will see that I'm not making stories. the name of the tokens are:

Greenworld Farm Token
RenCap
TimeBox Coin
DEEP AERO
and more.

Those are the projects that didn't even reach their soft cap.

If project didn't reach softcap it doesn't scam. It means that project failed and even he paid bounty rewards the tokens are worthless, so it doesn't matter. We are talking about projects that reached softcap, are developed, but they don't want pay rewards for no reason.
a lot of project failed because of not reaching the softcap and its the main reason why a projects these days went to scam because they dont have funds continue to the project.
even many projects have reached softcap but still a scam, and this proves that they are not serious in working on projects.
Especially now that people's trust on ICO has dropped, so they will be difficult to reached softcap, and I think ico is dead, and replaced by IEO because they are team up with big exchanges.
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November 10, 2019, 10:05:08 AM
#40
The project failed and that was a scam for the bounty hunter? I don't think this is true! The project developers tried to develop it, but the project failed and they couldn't send hunters bonus tokens of no value! Besides, successful projects, listed on trading platforms, did not reward hunters, which is a scam.

There is certain project that distributes their tokens, even though their sales was failed to collect necessary funds to develop their project. I remember that I joined some of those projects in my early years here in the forum. If you check my ETH address here: https://ethplorer.io/address/0xc2c384240366b209c75ef9b730fe136ce1789f6f
you will see that I'm not making stories. the name of the tokens are:

Greenworld Farm Token
RenCap
TimeBox Coin
DEEP AERO
and more.

Those are the projects that didn't even reach their soft cap.

If project didn't reach softcap it doesn't scam. It means that project failed and even he paid bounty rewards the tokens are worthless, so it doesn't matter. We are talking about projects that reached softcap, are developed, but they don't want pay rewards for no reason.
a lot of project failed because of not reaching the softcap and its the main reason why a projects these days went to scam because they dont have funds continue to the project.
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Pepemo.vip
November 10, 2019, 07:47:54 AM
#39
The project failed and that was a scam for the bounty hunter? I don't think this is true! The project developers tried to develop it, but the project failed and they couldn't send hunters bonus tokens of no value! Besides, successful projects, listed on trading platforms, did not reward hunters, which is a scam.

There is certain project that distributes their tokens, even though their sales was failed to collect necessary funds to develop their project. I remember that I joined some of those projects in my early years here in the forum. If you check my ETH address here: https://ethplorer.io/address/0xc2c384240366b209c75ef9b730fe136ce1789f6f
you will see that I'm not making stories. the name of the tokens are:

Greenworld Farm Token
RenCap
TimeBox Coin
DEEP AERO
and more.

Those are the projects that didn't even reach their soft cap.

If project didn't reach softcap it doesn't scam. It means that project failed and even he paid bounty rewards the tokens are worthless, so it doesn't matter. We are talking about projects that reached softcap, are developed, but they don't want pay rewards for no reason.
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November 10, 2019, 05:14:43 AM
#38
The project failed and that was a scam for the bounty hunter? I don't think this is true! The project developers tried to develop it, but the project failed and they couldn't send hunters bonus tokens of no value! Besides, successful projects, listed on trading platforms, did not reward hunters, which is a scam.

There is certain project that distributes their tokens, even though their sales was failed to collect necessary funds to develop their project. I remember that I joined some of those projects in my early years here in the forum. If you check my ETH address here: https://ethplorer.io/address/0xc2c384240366b209c75ef9b730fe136ce1789f6f
you will see that I'm not making stories. the name of the tokens are:

Greenworld Farm Token
RenCap
TimeBox Coin
DEEP AERO
and more.

Those are the projects that didn't even reach their soft cap.
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November 10, 2019, 05:01:04 AM
#37
The project failed and that was a scam for the bounty hunter? I don't think this is true! The project developers tried to develop it, but the project failed and they couldn't send hunters bonus tokens of no value! Besides, successful projects, listed on trading platforms, did not reward hunters, which is a scam.
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November 10, 2019, 01:50:36 AM
#36
I hope bounty managers can somehow feel responsible too when launching a bounty campaign. Yes I know they are only paid to handle a campaign but what if the team decides not to pay or delay it or for whatever reason they have? I've done so many campaign but not typically on signature campaign but other such as blog and I can rate myself as a good hunter for these ICO projects cause I monetize most of them but some projects are like what the OP mentioned.

Maybe it's time to fight back, dubbed as Bounty Scammer,  dont handle projects that you, yourself not sure of the legality of the one you've accepted caused it can give you shamed as a manager who also must do research and due diligence about it. Dont be a money grab, and fool by the payment they are offering in exchange for reputation.

legendary
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November 09, 2019, 05:07:33 PM
#35
Unless bounty managers stand, it's not possible. I think each campaign manager must have cooperation and prevent such project to launch bounty here.
By "stand" I suggest you mean work hand in glove to make sure they work for only bounties that keep the bounty payments with an escrow before the bounty begins. This is a brilliant idea, but there are some bountie(esp Btc bounties)that do not have any fixed beginning or ending, the company just starts the bounty and watches it's growth, I doubt if they will be able to escrow the payment, they would, I think give the bounty manager the rewards for every week just before it starts.

The campaigns that would need this the most are ico bounties, they are always having issues with rewards at the end of the campaign, this idea would be effective there, but most of those campaigns never choose reputable managers, thats why it may never work.
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November 09, 2019, 02:38:09 PM
#34
You're quite right, if the bounty manager holds/escrows the bounty pool and is also tasked to distribute it by the end of the campaign, then the assurance for all bounty hunters to get their rewards is high. Unless of course the bounty manager himself scams them and runs away with the bounty pool. Another way to avoid this is to have a separate official escrow for the bounty pool. There are some escrows in this forum that would agree to hold tokens from the bounty pool and even distributes it as well when the campaign ends.
The problem is, some bounty hunters don't really care about having an escrow or even with the legitimacy of the project itself. As long as they see lucrative rewards, most would jump in and join without any hesitation. What they really need to do is do their own research and inform the bounty manager if ever the project has the possibility of turning into a scam so it can be stopped immediately. Cooperation with the Bounty manager and the bounty hunters is crucial to lessen these scam projects.
It's not possible to restrict the bounty hunters to participate any bounty campaign. Some may don't participate while some will never think what's going on. There was a translation job from cryptoji for several language, only I got the payment because I choose to escrow the payment while other didn't.
Same way, some people never do their homework.
Unless bounty managers stand, it's not possible. I think each campaign manager must have cooperation and prevent such project to launch bounty here.
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Pepemo.vip
November 08, 2019, 06:53:54 AM
#33
This is exactly what happened with the STIPS project. After completing the bounty campaign and counting the stakes, the CEO said he was not satisfied with the results and would simply not pay the rewards.

Bounty manager deleted bounty thread opening posts and disappear:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyico-stips-fintech-decentralized-crypto-finance-ecosystem-new-5050582

ANN thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-stipsfintech-boost-your-cryptoinvestment-5032617

Statement of CEO:



The point is that what he wrote is not true, because the bounty campaign began with pre-ICO and during the token sale and bounty, the whitepaper and roadmap were changed (you can check dates in OP in ANN thread). The pre-ICO period was extended and the bounty campaign ended before the start of main ICO, so it doesn't matter what happened later with main ICO, because the work has been done in accordance with the campaign rules and deadlines. The project is developing and the CEO does not want to pay out rewards. For me it is classic SCAM.
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November 08, 2019, 05:40:32 AM
#32
Although you are right that bounty hunters are responsible, one another point, I would say it's the campaign manager who can stand against the bounty scammer. I had some chat with Yahoo and he was referring to hold the bounty rewards all the time so that participants don't get scammed. If bounty manager wants, they can avoid such issue.
You're quite right, if the bounty manager holds/escrows the bounty pool and is also tasked to distribute it by the end of the campaign, then the assurance for all bounty hunters to get their rewards is high. Unless of course the bounty manager himself scams them and runs away with the bounty pool. Another way to avoid this is to have a separate official escrow for the bounty pool. There are some escrows in this forum that would agree to hold tokens from the bounty pool and even distributes it as well when the campaign ends.
The problem is, some bounty hunters don't really care about having an escrow or even with the legitimacy of the project itself. As long as they see lucrative rewards, most would jump in and join without any hesitation. What they really need to do is do their own research and inform the bounty manager if ever the project has the possibility of turning into a scam so it can be stopped immediately. Cooperation with the Bounty manager and the bounty hunters is crucial to lessen these scam projects.
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November 08, 2019, 04:42:44 AM
#31
Although you are right that bounty hunters are responsible, one another point, I would say it's the campaign manager who can stand against the bounty scammer. I had some chat with Yahoo and he was referring to hold the bounty rewards all the time so that participants don't get scammed. If bounty manager wants, they can avoid such issue.
If a project don't pay anything without the token to the campaign managers, these are likely to be scammed, while projects which spends a lot of money are likely to be solid.

Yeah, that's true. Some new campaign managers doesn't know how to do this because they are only have their own payment.
It's better to join bounties managed by reputable manager like Yahoo, Hamphuz and the rest.
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November 08, 2019, 04:19:18 AM
#30
We cannot avoid it unless people will learn and as you know that there is a lot of bounty hunter. And even we stand against it then some will take the bait and it will be useless.

Maybe we can just create a thread and rate the ICO if they really paying and legit then they can know if its just making money and probably do exit-scam.
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November 08, 2019, 04:14:12 AM
#29
Although you are right that bounty hunters are responsible, one another point, I would say it's the campaign manager who can stand against the bounty scammer. I had some chat with Yahoo and he was referring to hold the bounty rewards all the time so that participants don't get scammed. If bounty manager wants, they can avoid such issue.
If a project don't pay anything without the token to the campaign managers, these are likely to be scammed, while projects which spends a lot of money are likely to be solid.
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November 08, 2019, 12:39:18 AM
#28
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November 07, 2019, 12:33:36 PM
#27
Worked for months but got nothing , I hope there will be no  scam bounty in the future Because it's just a waste of time and harm others .
Many investors are harmed in their scam project, let's hope that the scammer will be destroyed on this earth !

Do away from participating in ICO/IEO bounties, their success rate is getting low everytime. Some might even get successful but they will implement a lock period or slash the bounty allocation. It's better to rank up and participate in BTC campaigns.
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October 21, 2019, 07:46:13 PM
#26
Im thinking of not allowing newbies or low rank members to create bounty threads, only the ones who are trusted enough from Full member and above can create threads and also not allowing newbies to bounty section because they are one who are creating spams and joining scam bounties they need to learn first how to make a research before joining bounty and at-least reached to Jr member rank to be able to join.  
Newbies cannot join signature campaigns, one must obtain at least one merit to be able to move up to the next rank, and I think Jr member is the minimum rank for ICO bounties, not newbie.
I do not even think this is a "rank" issue, anyone can create spam and also be a scammer, we are all aware of the dangers ico bounties possess irrespective of who creates the bounty thread or not.

The thing is sticking with the BTC campaigns so one doesn't waste his or her time, there are many established forum users that run BTC campaigns and haven't had any dent on their reputation, that's the sort of campaign one should be on, anything short of that should be avoided.
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October 21, 2019, 02:57:02 AM
#25
Been a bounty hunter for almost 2.5 years now and I already experienced many shady projects some are failed projects, some decreased the allocated bounty and changed the rules as stated in the first day of campaign and one of the worst bounty I ever joined is one project that requires hunters to pay eth to be able to receive your bounty Im sure many of hunters here knew this project A****t lol, What I want to discuss is how we can prevent this problems to happen again in the future? Im thinking of not allowing newbies or low rank members to create bounty threads, only the ones who are trusted enough from Full member and above can create threads and also not allowing newbies to bounty section because they are one who are creating spams and joining scam bounties they need to learn first how to make a research before joining bounty and at-least reached to Jr member rank to be able to join.  
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October 19, 2019, 01:39:49 PM
#24
I have experienced before to promote some ICOs and joined to their bounties but 2 of the ICOs campaigns are scam.
I just received a coin which is no value until now and the one which is not distributing stakes. I thought it won't happen to me even I search about their project and check their participants with a high trust score they still end up scam.

What I think is to prevent or to avoid more bounty scammer is someone(trusted high rank member) should hold or deposit a good amount of BTC to verify that the project is legit or if the team is going to scam bounty users will still get their rewards by requesting who holds the deposit amount.
Or I hope the forum moderators should take action like deleting bounties which is posted by newbie or copper members. No proper bounty campaign manager should remove on the bounty section so that it can prevent more people to scam from fake bounties.
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October 19, 2019, 06:16:40 AM
#23
1: 100 to find a bounty that really pays at this time. very difficult to find a bounty that does pay / a real project. I joined dozens of bounties this year, but it was not worth the income from what was done.

I agree with the OP, if there is a bounty or the project is unclear. As a bounty hunter, we must fight it. if not, what will happen in the future, the real project will be devoid of investors (it can be said that the project failed).
legendary
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October 19, 2019, 04:01:01 AM
#22
~Skip
No project can live without community and if projects start treating the community like that they'll have a dead coin very soon (and it's deserved).
~Skip
Communities are an important part of project growth, without communities there is very little possibility that the project will progress. But many projects now don't treat their communities well, they don't even pay what their communities should get. Community support for this project will increase the popularity of the product and its price in the market, perhaps. But if they leave their community, shitcoin seems appropriate for the project.
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October 18, 2019, 08:24:39 PM
#21
Scamming bounty participants is an unbelievable shady and sad move to despice the community. If the project will be launched and finally listed but not pay bounty, I consider a bounty scam the same way like a normal scam. The team has set up rules and if they don't respect them, the case is clear. They expect the same from bounty hunters so why should the team be treated in a special way?

No project can live without community and if projects start treating the community like that they'll have a dead coin very soon (and it's deserved).

Bounty business has completely gone mad while I've still the hope reliable projects take their chance to launch an outstanding campaign among all the other shady shitcoins. At least that wouldn't be difficult right now.  Cheesy


1 month from now, I will be posting a bounty that has a trait of scam. after we have finish promoting their project, they suddenly decide to conduct a KYC process which makes the bounty participants mad. they rush to close the KYC process just for 1 week. after 1 year they open the KYC form again and this time I already sent them my info. I have a total of 1.9 ETH of the rewards calculated by the current price today in the market. If they don't give me my due, after sending them the proof they asked for, I will name that project here in this thread. so you guys will see what kind of project I'm talking about.
Yes, KYC-Scams are the worst ones. First announcing that no KYC is required, the users join and after the bounty is closed it's announced that KYC is required because the lawyers "suddenly" notice it is necessary (or similar lies). The case is often very clear:
- save payment by weeding out users who won't submit their personal documents for a possibly worthless shitcoin
- or if the project is a scam it's an easy way to collect personal data by the scammers and commit fraud
In both cases the shitcoin devs are literally blackmailing all users to submit KYC or if they don't submit it they will receive no pay for work already done (according the rules). That's so shady, I can't eat as much as I want to puke. Lips sealed
Most likely they won't have the same number of users if they'd announced their shitty KYC before people joined.  Roll Eyes

If they don't give me my due, after sending them the proof they asked for, I will name that project here in this thread. so you guys will see what kind of project I'm talking about.
Feel free to post it here. We had some cases in the past where we put pressure on the devs to pay according to the rules without KYC. After their account was heavily tagged and flagged they started to get communicative.  Wink
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October 18, 2019, 01:47:24 PM
#20
Worked for months but got nothing , I hope there will be no  scam bounty in the future Because it's just a waste of time and harm others .
Many investors are harmed in their scam project, let's hope that the scammer will be destroyed on this earth !

The best which we could do over here is to avoid participating in ICO based bounties and need to form a federation wherein we need to demand them to pay us weekly through any of the listed coins rather than cheating us in the hope of tokens which we rarely receive and even that too when the project fails. We need to learn from the past as bounties are not helping anyone nowadays due to the fact that most of them are scam.

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October 18, 2019, 11:29:50 AM
#19
Worked for months but got nothing , I hope there will be no  scam bounty in the future Because it's just a waste of time and harm others .
Many investors are harmed in their scam project, let's hope that the scammer will be destroyed on this earth !
legendary
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October 18, 2019, 11:05:47 AM
#18
~Skip
We can not hold thousands of people to hand and guide them some safe way, we can only warn them of the risks arising out of this type of possible earnings, and maybe save some of them from disappointment and wasted time.
I don't think anyone will be able to withstand the tide of bounty hunters to join the bounty. Most of them did not check the validity of the project, which also applied to me at first. But by the way you warn about risk and time wasted, they will also begin to realize to be more careful in supporting one or two bounty.
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October 18, 2019, 08:45:31 AM
#17
Can destroying/ruining the reputation of those projects who already scammed them make any kind of difference?

If these projects have the public announcement of the people who stand by them, then it certainly makes a difference that we show who they are, and thus at least destroy their reputation. That way, at least those same people won't be able to personally do something similar, because they will be labeled as scammers.

But most newbies will fall in the same trap more then once, even if they see red trust, flags and all other possible warnings. Knowledge is the key to success, and most of those who do bounty campaigns without any knowledge or experience serve as cheap or in most cases completely free labor.

We can not hold thousands of people to hand and guide them some safe way, we can only warn them of the risks arising out of this type of possible earnings, and maybe save some of them from disappointment and wasted time.
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October 17, 2019, 07:56:34 AM
#16
Can destroying/ruining the reputation of those projects who already scammed them make any kind of difference? For projects who are still being traded yes but for ICOs who pulled off an exit scam I don't think voicing out your concern would make any difference on being paid back for your services. Bounty hunting is still a tricky way to earn since it's like ICO hunting where you need to DYOR in order to lessen your chances on being part of the scam, most newbies here don't want to promote a scam but due to their carelessness and thirst for money they still join shady projects because they only see the pay out.
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October 17, 2019, 07:48:04 AM
#15
I think it is the bounty hunters who determine how Scam projects work.
If you are going to get thousands of people promoting your project without checking out the project developers (team members,) whitepaper, money/coins guarantee, plans, and other fundamentals, they won't put much effort into improving their project.
Also, applying for a lot of projects without paying attention to their legitimacy or ensuring that they will pay will make them more greedy and try to create more and more scam projects.
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October 17, 2019, 06:41:45 AM
#14
This has become very rampant but I'm lucky that I got all my stakes from all the bounty campaign, but if they scam bounty hunters, they should promote that bounty campaign as a scam if you do bounty in facebook then promote that project as a scam project in your facebook account and if you are a blogger and participated in their bounty campaign then post that it's a scam project for not paying you
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October 17, 2019, 06:15:32 AM
#13
1 month from now, I will be posting a bounty that has a trait of scam. after we have finish promoting their project, they suddenly decide to conduct a KYC process which makes the bounty participants mad. they rush to close the KYC process just for 1 week. after 1 year they open the KYC form again and this time I already sent them my info. I have a total of 1.9 ETH of the rewards calculated by the current price today in the market. If they don't give me my due, after sending them the proof they asked for, I will name that project here in this thread. so you guys will see what kind of project I'm talking about.
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October 17, 2019, 05:50:22 AM
#12
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Protecting people from being scammed is, besides what one can gather on their own, a community based feature, generally expressed through the Trust System and/or Trust flags and/or Scam accusations. If, as you say, you have strong compelling evidence of forum members that plan to promote scams, knowing that to be true, then by all means present it, with all the evidence you have. If your evicence is firm, it will probably be backed by others, giving more weight to the Trust valuation.
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October 17, 2019, 05:42:33 AM
#11
The forum itself stand against bounty scammers that's why you see DT members willing to support flag or tagged accomplice of this scam against humanity because that's what this scammers are doing. They use the hunters as slave and once they have achieved their goals via marketing and publicity, they refused to pay their employees (bounty participants).
Tag or by supporting flags will not change anything. We are doing it just for mark them, they really don't care about tag when they are already skip with million. I am asking make sound against them, it's not only on this forum. Call them scammer on every platform that hunters were promoted. So almost it will be viral and they might not scam any new investors. At least we might prevent some traders. Because when traders will know about their scam history then they won't trade their coins. Hunters only could do that like before they have done promotion.

I've seen few telegram groups in the past that tried to organize bounty hunters to start some action against projects that refused to pay them or changed rules after bounty is over dramatically, but unfortunately seems like all of them failed to last a bit longer, or to gain significant amount of followers. As you said, few thousand of bounty hunters can really create a lot of buzz, so those projects would be less inclined to attempt such a thing.

With that being said, bounty hunters should be more vigilant when choosing which bounty campaign to enter, especially if you are doing something more demanding like signature campaign or content creation. I understand that those that are doing twitter/fb part  of the campaign don't really choose or check much, but others that invest significant amount of time should really be thorough, after all you are investing your time, and  for me time=money.
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October 17, 2019, 05:27:56 AM
#10
The forum itself stand against bounty scammers that's why you see DT members willing to support flag or tagged accomplice of this scam against humanity because that's what this scammers are doing. They use the hunters as slave and once they have achieved their goals via marketing and publicity, they refused to pay their employees (bounty participants).
Tag or by supporting flags will not change anything. We are doing it just for mark them, they really don't care about tag when they are already skip with million. I am asking make sound against them, it's not only on this forum. Call them scammer on every platform that hunters were promoted. So almost it will be viral and they might not scam any new investors. At least we might prevent some traders. Because when traders will know about their scam history then they won't trade their coins. Hunters only could do that like before they have done promotion.
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October 17, 2019, 04:02:28 AM
#9
What about me? is there any protection for me?
I have strong evidence and want to complete several well-known managers who plan to promote fraudulent projects and there are even some projects that they have managed for 2-3 months.
they don't work alone, you will be surprised that they actually work with some other famous managers.
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October 17, 2019, 03:02:28 AM
#8
At this day, why would you engage in bounty hunting in the first place? You risk getting scammed, the project might flop and your earned tokens will be worthless, it might never be listed on exchanges, and even if everything works out, your reward earned during weeks of posting and clicking can end up being just a few dollars. It's not 2017 anymore, when you can earn hundreds of dollars for some retweets, people should move on already.

Apparently, they're taking their chances to earn even they know they the risk beyond it. However, few times are enough not to continue wasting time and better yet move on.

Perhaps, even ICOs regain their spot, people won't buy it anymore because of the risk and definitely just a waste of time and money.

I guess everyone here should boycott the bounty campaigns, let's see if they can still raise the money they needed.

Not possible. Many bounty hunters that joining in social media is not really a bitcointalk user. They are just creating a newbie account to comply with rules in social media bounties.
You can see it for yourself on the Bounty Thread. They keep posting reports even though there is a note that the bounty program is already finished. I think they are using script to automatically
post there report in the thread.
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October 17, 2019, 02:42:24 AM
#7
At this day, why would you engage in bounty hunting in the first place? You risk getting scammed, the project might flop and your earned tokens will be worthless, it might never be listed on exchanges, and even if everything works out, your reward earned during weeks of posting and clicking can end up being just a few dollars. It's not 2017 anymore, when you can earn hundreds of dollars for some retweets, people should move on already.

Apparently, they're taking their chances to earn even they know they the risk beyond it. However, few times are enough not to continue wasting time and better yet move on.

Perhaps, even ICOs regain their spot, people won't buy it anymore because of the risk and definitely just a waste of time and money.

I guess everyone here should boycott the bounty campaigns, let's see if they can still raise the money they needed.
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October 17, 2019, 02:20:33 AM
#6
Well, the moment they started to participate in a campaign, bounty hunters should have already been prepared to get scammed. That's just how most bounties are. Besides, even if you did report them, spread the word, they could just use another name, do it all over again. I doubt they'd lose much since in the first place they were already a scam.

At this day, why would you engage in bounty hunting in the first place? You risk getting scammed, the project might flop and your earned tokens will be worthless, it might never be listed on exchanges, and even if everything works out, your reward earned during weeks of posting and clicking can end up being just a few dollars. It's not 2017 anymore, when you can earn hundreds of dollars for some retweets, people should move on already.
Well, you can't blame them. They have nothing to fall into anymore sadly enough. And they can't really find anything else, bounties and campaigns are probably their best bet in earning using this forum.
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October 15, 2019, 10:50:32 AM
#5
well it is like wanting to stand against greed, not just your own greediness but the greed of other people! you can't really tell people to stop wanting to make money, they are new and greedy and want to believe in the promises of "huge return" and the "next bitcoin" crap they feed them and join their token scam fundraising shenanigan! and they won't change.

the solution is easy too in my opinion. only get paid in bitcoin so that you can first of all guarantee you are receiving something valuable not something worthless (ie the token) and secondly you make sure the owners have to spend money (which they should do if they are serious and not jus scamming) instead of paying with the token that didn't cost them anything to create. and finally using bitcoin gives them the opportunity to ask for escrow!
do this and 99% of scammers run away in the other direction.
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October 15, 2019, 10:04:14 AM
#4
At this day, why would you engage in bounty hunting in the first place? You risk getting scammed, the project might flop and your earned tokens will be worthless, it might never be listed on exchanges, and even if everything works out, your reward earned during weeks of posting and clicking can end up being just a few dollars. It's not 2017 anymore, when you can earn hundreds of dollars for some retweets, people should move on already.
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October 15, 2019, 09:49:38 AM
#3
The forum itself stand against bounty scammers that's why you see DT members willing to support flag or tagged accomplice of this scam against humanity because that's what this scammers are doing. They use the hunters as slave and once they have achieved their goals via marketing and publicity, they refused to pay their employees (bounty participants).

We should focus more on encouraging affected users to expose this guys as they aren't exposing this scammers when they get scam. Not enough affected users are participating in accusation thread which just goes to show how less concerned about the issue they're. For affected users, you can always request for flag support or negative feedback related to Bounty & Bounty Manager scam on this thread and you'll get the support you need from me. I have been affected once and I know how it feels when you help a project get the publicity they desire but end up treating you badly (as a slave).
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October 15, 2019, 09:45:51 AM
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October 15, 2019, 09:17:48 AM
#1
As my title says, "Let's stand against bounty scammer". Do you know what is bounty scammer? Those project doesn't want to distribute stake of bounty hunters, I called them Bounty scammer.

It's been noticed lot of project just skipping after end of campaign. They even trying to listing their project on big exchange like Binace. (For example Vidy project) but they failed on voting fortunately. They scam bounty hunters mean had not paid stake. We can't take any action against them since all the fund on their hand. But I am upset about that, any bounty hunters not made sound against them. Some others who isn't victims they are making sound.


Bounty hunters ! You are the one who is promoting a project via Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Telegram, YouTube and some other social media. But after posting (spamming) on social media all hunters just become freeze. They forget about projects those they had promoted. They just care whatever they received. So why are you spamming on this forum and other social media if you can't ask them about your stake? Who is scammer I have no comment about them like fake team and so on, but those project is live and trading on some exchange then you might take some action against them.

Bounty scammer just not scammed you, they are scamming new peoples continuously. They are selling your token through exchange. Their intention isn't good, so they will just sold their token those are holding with them. Means listing on exchange is another opportunity to scam more peoples. Once their all token will sold out they will become freeze and token price will dump to near ZERO. Means so many traders will counter scam once again.


So what you would do? You also responsible for that scam. Who know how many peoples were invested on that scam project by visiting your post on social media. If like that happen you might take some action against. Post against bounty scammer like when you had posted during boulty campaign. Write against them and use hash tag like #scam and so on. Make thread against them on this forum and do free bounty once again against scammer. Write to the exchange where trading currently about their history. Write on exchange's social media so everyone will aware about their corruption. And trader will not fall into their project. Almost 10K to 15K user promote bounty campaign. So if all users make sound against bounty scammer and write social media then so many peoples would save their money and hunter also might get back their token when the project will see sound against them.  Only hunters could so that. You promote them free so write once again against them free. Show them you can do, tell them you were a part of their projects.


Perhaps my post will look like unrealistic to some peoples, but hunters could made it.
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