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Topic: LIGHTNINGASIC launching GPU miner. 8X GPU, 16XGPU, UP TO 32XGPU. (Read 11541 times)

sr. member
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@Lightningasic,
 
Would you be able to send one of these for review by philipma1957, or other trusted Bitcointalk member?

Miner Type   Bitcoin Gold GPU Miner
GPU
8*NV1060*3G
Hash Rate   200 MH/s(BTG ) Variation of ±5% is expected
Power Consumption
950W + 10%(BTG )(93% efficiency, 25℃ ambient temp)
Rated Voltage
12-12.6V
Chips per unit
8 x NVIDI1060 3G,16×Slots
Cooling
6×Fans
Mainborad
B250-ABTC PLUS V20
Power Supply
1600W
RAM
DDR4
Operating Temperature
0℃-40℃
Network Connection
Ethernet
Net Weight
12KG
Dimension
524mm*295mm*180mm   


Dude I was in china to meet with him.  All he had was a prototype case and a ZRT (panda) board in it.  This guy has nothing but a scam waiting for you.  He had some other wallet storage and stuff but no miners.
jr. member
Activity: 108
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These specs are not correct BTG is using equihash not ethash algorithm 
hero member
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Merit: 1000
@Lightningasic,
 
Would you be able to send one of these for review by philipma1957, or other trusted Bitcointalk member?

Miner Type   Bitcoin Gold GPU Miner
GPU
8*NV1060*3G
Hash Rate   200 MH/s(BTG ) Variation of ±5% is expected
Power Consumption
950W + 10%(BTG )(93% efficiency, 25℃ ambient temp)
Rated Voltage
12-12.6V
Chips per unit
8 x NVIDI1060 3G,16×Slots
Cooling
6×Fans
Mainborad
B250-ABTC PLUS V20
Power Supply
1600W
RAM
DDR4
Operating Temperature
0℃-40℃
Network Connection
Ethernet
Net Weight
12KG
Dimension
524mm*295mm*180mm   
sr. member
Activity: 847
Merit: 383
I don't know if LightningAsic is a scam or not, but nobody is shipping anything right now due to GPU supply constraints.  Even Pandaminer have stopped answering emails, their phone, and Facebook messages.

I was there in China.  He had nothing ready.  Like I said he might have other stuff but not the 8X units.
full member
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Wow...lucky to get your $ back Dagarair. Thanks for the heads up buddy!
member
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I don't know if LightningAsic is a scam or not, but nobody is shipping anything right now due to GPU supply constraints.  Even Pandaminer have stopped answering emails, their phone, and Facebook messages.
full member
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DO NOT BUY FROM THIS DUDE.  His name is Jack by the way.

I like to think at least some know me on here and my word has a little merit hopefully.  Here is my story:

So I ordered units (panda miner type) he supposedly had in stock April 15th I sent him almost 70K down payment for 70 of them. I went to china to meet him in May and he shows me no production units, refuses to take me for factory tour and shows just a junk prototype and says there is a motherboard issue and they are delayed etc. Nothing but excuses. I knew for a fact there was no MB issues as I had visited the actual mfg facility the day before.  Today is June 11th and I finally got most of my $ back after showing him fake orders etc that I had in hand people waiting for 1000's of units. That way he was motivated by greed as an act of good faith to refund my initial deposit. I sent 68,750 total I got back 64,786 because of course he goes to the most expensive exchange and says that's the BTC rate. At least I got back most of my $ but DO NOT BUY FROM THIS DUDE HE IS A SCUMBAG SCAMMER.

He might have other stuff, but he don't have 8x miners, trust me.  I flew down to China to see with my own eyes.  I am damn lucky I got my $ back.

The broken English, shady responses, and crappy pictures weren't enough?

Well, I got some snake oil that I think might solve all your problems...
sr. member
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DO NOT BUY FROM THIS DUDE.  His name is Jack by the way.

I like to think at least some know me on here and my word has a little merit hopefully.  Here is my story:

So I ordered units (panda miner type) he supposedly had in stock April 15th I sent him almost 70K down payment for 70 of them. I went to china to meet him in May and he shows me no production units, refuses to take me for factory and shows just a junk prototype and says there is a motherboard issue and they are delayed etc. Nothing but excuses. We knew for a fact there was no MB issues as we had visited the actual mfg the day before.  Today is June 11th and I finally got most of my $ back after showing him fake orders etc that I had in hand people waiting for units. That way he was motivated by greed as an act of good faith to refund my inital deposit. I sent 68,750 total I got back 64,786 because of course he goes to the most expensive exchange and says thats the rate. At least I got back most of my $ but DO NOT BUY FROM THIS DUDE HE IS A SCUMBAG SCAMMER.

He might have other stuff, but he don't have 8x miners, trust me.  I flew down there to see with our own eyes.  I am damn lucky I got my $ back.

Thanx for sharing this. And sad about your loss
sr. member
Activity: 847
Merit: 383
DO NOT BUY FROM THIS DUDE.  His name is Jack by the way.

I like to think at least some know me on here and my word has a little merit hopefully.  Here is my story:

So I ordered units (panda miner type) he supposedly had in stock April 15th I sent him almost 70K down payment for 70 of them. I went to china to meet him in May and he shows me no production units, refuses to take me for factory tour and shows just a junk prototype and says there is a motherboard issue and they are delayed etc. Nothing but excuses. I knew for a fact there was no MB issues as I had visited the actual mfg facility the day before.  Today is June 11th and I finally got most of my $ back after showing him fake orders etc that I had in hand people waiting for 1000's of units. That way he was motivated by greed as an act of good faith to refund my initial deposit. I sent 68,750 total I got back 64,786 because of course he goes to the most expensive exchange and says that's the BTC rate. At least I got back most of my $ but DO NOT BUY FROM THIS DUDE HE IS A SCUMBAG SCAMMER.

He might have other stuff, but he don't have 8x miners, trust me.  I flew down to China to see with my own eyes.  I am damn lucky I got my $ back.
full member
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Your website has an error upon payment, please fix.
legendary
Activity: 1096
Merit: 1021
The Ultimate Bitcoin Mining Motherboard


With the huge popularity of cryptocurrency mining (such as Bitcoin, Ethereum and Litecoin), ASRock is launching a new motherboard with an incredible 13 PCIe slots. During Computex, ASRock will demonstrate the soon-to-be-launched H110 Pro BTC+ motherboard that is dedicated to serve mining users and show how to mine cryptocurrencies and earn Bitcoin efficiently.


http://www.asrock.com/news/index.asp?ID=3625






That looks very interesting.  Thanks for the link
legendary
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Merit: 1021
2009 Alea iacta est
The Ultimate Bitcoin Mining Motherboard


With the huge popularity of cryptocurrency mining (such as Bitcoin, Ethereum and Litecoin), ASRock is launching a new motherboard with an incredible 13 PCIe slots. During Computex, ASRock will demonstrate the soon-to-be-launched H110 Pro BTC+ motherboard that is dedicated to serve mining users and show how to mine cryptocurrencies and earn Bitcoin efficiently.


http://www.asrock.com/news/index.asp?ID=3625




sr. member
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case is crap, can we buy board only ??
yes.
you can only buy the board.
lead time 3-4 weeks.

So, any updates to this? 4 weeks has passed...
legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

I heard the expansion cards work with Asrock H81 probtc.
read about another adapter at techpowerup. turns 6 slot mobos into 8 slot mobos.

https://www.techpowerup.com/233317/biostar-releases-accessory-to-convert-your-gaming-pc-into-a-pro-mining-rig

8 cards with an adapter. works with the following mobos: RACING H170GT3, GAMING H170T, Hi-Fi H170S3H, Hi-Fi B150S1, Hi-Fi B150S1 D4, or TB150 PR

i would rather go with the lightning board if i can find 8 single slot cards. much neater and smaller package.
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I can share you some of my observations, because I am working on a project to get 8+ GPUs into same machine.

Now, I have been confirmed by NVIDIA tech people, that this is possible and it is not limited by drivers or OS: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1004967/cuda-programming-and-performance/max-number-of-cuda-devices/

I have also contacted several manufacturers that are creating pcie expansion backplanes, such as:
- http://amfeltec.com/
- http://www.onestopsystems.com/
- http://cyclone.com/index.php

Out of curiosity, I also ordered that cheap 30 USD 1x to 3x PCIe expansion that is being sold everywhere around. Tested on several various motherboards from low end to high end, it does NOT work!

Then I ordered backplane from amfeltec which has a PLX chip on. It works, no issues at all. But of course, these toys are not for mining. A very simple backplane that has only 4 slots (1x to 4x) costs around 500 USD. And here comes the trick; all ports on backplane works fine, you can put 4 cards on it and it will work, but the total number of GPUs in system matter. And the motherboard I used for testing this backplane supports only 6 GPUs. No matter where I insert 7th card, the system would not boot. This indicate that the real issue is in BIOS and it is not a hardware problem.

An interesting expansion backplane is this: http://www.acalbfi.com/nl/Embedded-computing/PCI-PCIe/Bus-Expansion/p/PCIe-x16-Gen-2-Expansion/00000008SX It is the size of ATX motherboard. But keep in mind that this toy costs ~1500 USD.

I also sent query to the companies listed above asking about motherboard compatibility. I was specifically asking whether an Asus X99-E-10G WS (a 500 USD worth motherboard) would work. Their response was:
Quote
... I would recommend higher-end desktop motherboards or server-class machines.  Low end desktops tend to have BIOS packages that take shortcuts.  Your Asus mobo may be perfectly fine.  We have successfully used Intel, SuperMicro, Asus, Dell, HP, and Gigabyte with our 16 slot backplane. ...

Bottom line is this; forget about these cheap expansions methods. Even if they work, your motherboard probably will not support it. Cheap motherboards tend to take shortcuts, which would explain everything. If you really want a solution, you will first need pro expensive motherboard. After that, you will need even more expensive expansion backplane. The only pcie switching chips that actually work are PLX and these chips are EXPENSIVE. Ever wondered why motherboards that support 4way CF/SLI are so expensive? Because they pack one or two PLX chips that cost 100 USD a piece. And forget about cheap chinese shit (just look at that 1x to 3x PCIe expansion board, it has some cheap chinese chip on top of it, no wonder it doesn't work). It is also highly unlikely that some chinese company would come out with their own designed motherboard; we all know that all they do is just copy and copy from west world and are incapable of designing stuff on their own.


several months ago i've tried the 1-to-3 multiplier, bought on ebay.
it works fine, mining with 3 nitro rx470.
the mainboard i use was biostar a68n-5000.
i think thats what the card do, multiply a mobo with only 1 or 2 slots.

with other mainboard such as gigabyte 5 slot it can work only 6 gpus.


rgds,


I heard the expansion cards work with Asrock H81 probtc.
member
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I can share you some of my observations, because I am working on a project to get 8+ GPUs into same machine.

Now, I have been confirmed by NVIDIA tech people, that this is possible and it is not limited by drivers or OS: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1004967/cuda-programming-and-performance/max-number-of-cuda-devices/

I have also contacted several manufacturers that are creating pcie expansion backplanes, such as:
- http://amfeltec.com/
- http://www.onestopsystems.com/
- http://cyclone.com/index.php

Out of curiosity, I also ordered that cheap 30 USD 1x to 3x PCIe expansion that is being sold everywhere around. Tested on several various motherboards from low end to high end, it does NOT work!

Then I ordered backplane from amfeltec which has a PLX chip on. It works, no issues at all. But of course, these toys are not for mining. A very simple backplane that has only 4 slots (1x to 4x) costs around 500 USD. And here comes the trick; all ports on backplane works fine, you can put 4 cards on it and it will work, but the total number of GPUs in system matter. And the motherboard I used for testing this backplane supports only 6 GPUs. No matter where I insert 7th card, the system would not boot. This indicate that the real issue is in BIOS and it is not a hardware problem.

An interesting expansion backplane is this: http://www.acalbfi.com/nl/Embedded-computing/PCI-PCIe/Bus-Expansion/p/PCIe-x16-Gen-2-Expansion/00000008SX It is the size of ATX motherboard. But keep in mind that this toy costs ~1500 USD.

I also sent query to the companies listed above asking about motherboard compatibility. I was specifically asking whether an Asus X99-E-10G WS (a 500 USD worth motherboard) would work. Their response was:
Quote
... I would recommend higher-end desktop motherboards or server-class machines.  Low end desktops tend to have BIOS packages that take shortcuts.  Your Asus mobo may be perfectly fine.  We have successfully used Intel, SuperMicro, Asus, Dell, HP, and Gigabyte with our 16 slot backplane. ...

Bottom line is this; forget about these cheap expansions methods. Even if they work, your motherboard probably will not support it. Cheap motherboards tend to take shortcuts, which would explain everything. If you really want a solution, you will first need pro expensive motherboard. After that, you will need even more expensive expansion backplane. The only pcie switching chips that actually work are PLX and these chips are EXPENSIVE. Ever wondered why motherboards that support 4way CF/SLI are so expensive? Because they pack one or two PLX chips that cost 100 USD a piece. And forget about cheap chinese shit (just look at that 1x to 3x PCIe expansion board, it has some cheap chinese chip on top of it, no wonder it doesn't work). It is also highly unlikely that some chinese company would come out with their own designed motherboard; we all know that all they do is just copy and copy from west world and are incapable of designing stuff on their own.


several months ago i've tried the 1-to-3 multiplier, bought on ebay.
it works fine, mining with 3 nitro rx470.
the mainboard i use was biostar a68n-5000.
i think thats what the card do, multiply a mobo with only 1 or 2 slots.

with other mainboard such as gigabyte 5 slot it can work only 6 gpus.


rgds,
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That motherboard just looks like it was pulled from a pandaminer. You clearly could not fit two full sized cards next to each other on it with any space in between for airflow.

But the case is clearly custom....

So the board has to be longer to accept 8 cards, but you've already made a case that fits a panda board?

This also is not an ASIC...

and I, like many others, have doubts about running over 8 cards period.

An 8 card board would be great, but this is all sketchy AF to me.
legendary
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CYCone has one out,  so I guess this idea is not new and it depends on price and who they sell to ..

http://www.cyclone.com/products/expansion_backplanes/
legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
if they would make this with a socketed cpu i would be all for it. throw in a "t" series intel cpu with an active heatsink/fan.

i just wonder if at some point the cpu would be too wimpy for some miner algos, especially if you add a 8 card expansion cage.

this mobo would be for the very long term, just upgrade vgas as needed. so upgradable cpu would be sweet and add to its useful life.
newbie
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wow..its look efficient than 7x asrock,waiting more detail info to purcase
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