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Topic: LIGHTNINGASIC launching GPU miner. 8X GPU, 16XGPU, UP TO 32XGPU. - page 3. (Read 11541 times)

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Hello, I see your results.

1. The card is a PCIE switch using the PEX8614 chip, which costs about $ 40.
2. And can only work in PCIE 2.0 4X to 8 PCIE 2.0 1X modes. Because the PEX8614 can only support up to 12 PCIE LANEs and 12 PCIE Ports (1 INPUT and 8 OUTPUT). And your design forgets to use GPIO to configure troubleshooting. So you can not work in PCIE 16X mode.
3. More than six new GPUs in a system (old GPU, such as 7870 it can work 12 because it only needs half the resources), you need to configure the BIOS MMIO, usually its BIOS option is Above 4G Decoding The
4. Most motherboards can support more than eight GPUs, but you need non-standard BIOS. Such as Panda's custom motherboards using the X79 BIOS, add Haswell CPU microcode support to get the Above 4G Decoding option.
5. The AMD driver does not support more than eight GPUs in an OS. If you want to make a 16 / 32GPU system. You must use Intel VT-D and SR-IOV technology, and through virtualization to achieve. Or you customize an AMD driver (but it is very difficult).
6. So on the lightning miners can make more than 8GPU system, I think this is not possible, because you do not understand how to achieve. You just made a PCIE switch card, it's very simple.

Sorry for my english. Hope you can understand.

Interesting.

Well, for a start, both AMD and NVIDIA don't support 32 GPUs with their drivers. You'd need a custom driver - and I doubt you're going to give that technology to the masses, for free. What kind of mode are you running in? You'd need to use virtualization technology for anything above 8 GPU for AMD, 16 for NVIDIA - I might be wrong on the NVIDIA though ( they may only support 8 ).

kilo17, I would expect you to have known this.

EDIT: Changed about to above.

I appreciate the confidence you have in my knowledge (makes me feel good).  I must disagree with you on this one, although I could be wrong.  The real limits are the mobo BIOS and not the drivers per se.  jstefanop is probably better to answer this question than I am since he has been in direct contact with Greg Stoner from AMD but here is a quote from Greg

"It does not matter if you have the all the cards on single CPU with 16 GPU’s ( You will need multilevel PLX switches)  or two CPU with 8 GPU’s.   On 2P system the critical issue is the system bios need have enough PCIe resources for Doorbell BAR, IO BAR, MMIO BAR and Expansion ROM.    One thing beyond 16 GPU’s you heading into new world for both AMD and NVIDIA."

I have posted a link to this thread from jstefanop and Greg Stoner previously and if anyone is interested I will post it again, it is about running greater than 8 gpu's per rig.  It is a great read.

Since I am not familiar with the custom motherboards that Panda or Lightening are using and I have not peaked at the BIOS from them either I cannot say how it is set up.

On a side note, I have been in discussions to have a 12 and/or 16 GPU mobo manufactured and there has not been any issues per the engineers at the manufacturer as long as the mobo doesn't have unnecessary crap on it.

cheers  Wink
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Can you put 8 GPUs in this board or you will need usb riser ? I cant see space with PCIE slots for 8 GPUs
newbie
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Are pieces on stock? Some review?
market is too hot.
no stock.


Do you have 16 GPU for sale?
legendary
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Are pieces on stock? Some review?
market is too hot.
no stock.
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Are pieces on stock? Some review?
sr. member
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Really intrested in this. So will be waiting for more info and pictures. Also 16x and 32x rigs
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Will these boards be compatible with any generation of AMD/nvidia cards? I'd like to test out multiple algo's with the AMD 2xx, 3xx, and 4xx cards. If you have made a custom bios, will the system run on Linux? Or you have custom OS as well?
legendary
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How much is going to cost that x16 to 8 usb riser expansion card? Im really interested into buying one of those now.

It could be great to simplify building a miner. Cheaper versions with 4 or 6 ports could be also great for older boards with resource limits.
no 4or6 ports.
8 port is minimam.


 I have an interest in the 8 port boards.

I want to use them in my solar array

@ kilo17  I would want to talk about it with you via pm.

pm sent to you

Link to my solar thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solar-array-starting-to-look-good-1369207

legendary
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This is all very interesting, but what will it actually run on? I don't think there is a moherboard in existence that has enough PCIe lanes for 32 GPU (or even 16). Maybe some huge server mobo that google would use for its A.I. research but that would either be custom design stuff, or cost $10000.

What is the actual use case for this device?
we have our design.
so 32Xgpu is not problem.
waite for our good news.
legendary
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How much is going to cost that x16 to 8 usb riser expansion card? Im really interested into buying one of those now.

It could be great to simplify building a miner. Cheaper versions with 4 or 6 ports could be also great for older boards with resource limits.
no 4or6 ports.
8 port is minimam.
legendary
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case is crap, can we buy board only ??
yes.
you can only buy the board.
lead time 3-4 weeks.
hero member
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case is crap, can we buy board only ??
p4n
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How much is going to cost that x16 to 8 usb riser expansion card? Im really interested into buying one of those now.

It could be great to simplify building a miner. Cheaper versions with 4 or 6 ports could be also great for older boards with resource limits.
sr. member
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I am interested ... but concern on the power consumption and heat generated. It would be a good idea as instead of powering 32 risers, you only need to powered up 1 riser. Instead of 32 x 30 = 960 watt its only 180w to 300w. I think it works that way.

I am definately interested as i am growing my fourth farm and like to explore your tech.

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LIGHTNINGASIC launching GPU miner. 8X GPU, 16XGPU, UP TO 32XGPU.
waite for our good news.
Here is some nice pics:
http://i.imgur.com/EgxyTy5.jpg


If I understand this correctly, this image is an Add in PCIe 16x board that you can run 8 risers to?
This is an entirely separate product from your $2000 LightningASIC 8 GPU miner correct?

If so I would be really interested in this add in card, as I am sure many of us will be. What motherboard/CPU combinations is this compatible with - do you have a compatibility list?
When will this be available to purchase? What is this going to cost? Can this be coupled with any regular risers?

Also, the 8GPU lightningasic miner, would you be willing to sell it barebones - minus the cards/PSU?

i don't think any motherboard currently can handle so many gpu without burning the 24 pin, it's a problem of maximum voltage, but i see they have their own motherboard design with the thunder that cna support 8 gpu and more

If you use powered risers and extra power, there is no such problem.
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This is all very interesting, but what will it actually run on? I don't think there is a moherboard in existence that has enough PCIe lanes for 32 GPU (or even 16). Maybe some huge server mobo that google would use for its A.I. research but that would either be custom design stuff, or cost $10000.

What is the actual use case for this device?
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Interesting.

Well, for a start, both AMD and NVIDIA don't support 32 GPUs with their drivers. You'd need a custom driver - and I doubt you're going to give that technology to the masses, for free. What kind of mode are you running in? You'd need to use virtualization technology for anything above 8 GPU for AMD, 16 for NVIDIA - I might be wrong on the NVIDIA though ( they may only support 8 ).

kilo17, I would expect you to have known this.

EDIT: Changed about to above.

I appreciate the confidence you have in my knowledge (makes me feel good).  I must disagree with you on this one, although I could be wrong.  The real limits are the mobo BIOS and not the drivers per se.  jstefanop is probably better to answer this question than I am since he has been in direct contact with Greg Stoner from AMD but here is a quote from Greg

"It does not matter if you have the all the cards on single CPU with 16 GPU’s ( You will need multilevel PLX switches)  or two CPU with 8 GPU’s.   On 2P system the critical issue is the system bios need have enough PCIe resources for Doorbell BAR, IO BAR, MMIO BAR and Expansion ROM.    One thing beyond 16 GPU’s you heading into new world for both AMD and NVIDIA."

I have posted a link to this thread from jstefanop and Greg Stoner previously and if anyone is interested I will post it again, it is about running greater than 8 gpu's per rig.  It is a great read.

Since I am not familiar with the custom motherboards that Panda or Lightening are using and I have not peaked at the BIOS from them either I cannot say how it is set up.

On a side note, I have been in discussions to have a 12 and/or 16 GPU mobo manufactured and there has not been any issues per the engineers at the manufacturer as long as the mobo doesn't have unnecessary crap on it.

cheers  Wink
legendary
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Thanks, then i won't be buying one unless the bare bones offers a MB with it  and i supply the CPU which i get the feeling it comes with one embedded and i don't want to pay 2k for a full box.... , I would rather build my own ...

Cya
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LIGHTNINGASIC launching GPU miner. 8X GPU, 16XGPU, UP TO 32XGPU.
waite for our good news.
Here is some nice pics:



If I understand this correctly, this image is an Add in PCIe 16x board that you can run 8 risers to?
This is an entirely separate product from your $2000 LightningASIC 8 GPU miner correct?

If so I would be really interested in this add in card, as I am sure many of us will be. What motherboard/CPU combinations is this compatible with - do you have a compatibility list?
When will this be available to purchase? What is this going to cost? Can this be coupled with any regular risers?

Also, the 8GPU lightningasic miner, would you be willing to sell it barebones - minus the cards/PSU?

It won't be compatable with any current off the shelf MB, it's just a switch (like the 3 port one that's been around forever...this just has 8 ). I was thinking of going this route with my 16 gpu solution, but the switch aspect is only half the story. You need a motherboard that can actually handle more than 6-8 GPUs

So beware if you think you can buy this and magically post more than 8 GPUs on off the shelf current gen mothboards most of you use for GPU mining.
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