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Topic: Lindsey Graham: Donald Trump 'Selling Fear and Prejudice' (Read 1607 times)

legendary
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I noticed, but chose to elaborate on existing law. As for cracking down on hiring illegals, there are laws already in place to deal with this issue. They just need to be applied. We have adequate federal enforcement, but there seems to be no will to seek out the offenders, and even less will to prosecute the offenders and deport the illegals. Instead, Obama prefers to release illegal criminals back into mainstream America to ply their trade.

Obama has deported more illegals than any other President. By far. So the question is, why is there no will to prosecute those who hire illegals?......

So why would you propose more of what you yourself says there is no will to enforce?  More of the problem, so to speak.

I know many, many people who hire illegals and I know many illegals.  I don't know anyone who has a problem with deporting violent felons who are illegals.
legendary
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trump says stuff he really believes unlike the others who rely on polling and focus groups, with the others you will get more of the same
full member
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I noticed, but chose to elaborate on existing law. As for cracking down on hiring illegals, there are laws already in place to deal with this issue. They just need to be applied. We have adequate federal enforcement, but there seems to be no will to seek out the offenders, and even less will to prosecute the offenders and deport the illegals. Instead, Obama prefers to release illegal criminals back into mainstream America to ply their trade.

Obama has deported more illegals than any other President. By far. So the question is, why is there no will to prosecute those who hire illegals? If instead of hiring illegals, they joined in the identification effort, the whole deportation task would be several times easier. Everyone knows this. But everyone also knows that hiring illegals is very profitable. Money talks. You're willing to get rid of them (which is damn near impossible) but you just shrug your shoulders at the ever-present motivation they have for coming here -- people PAY them to come here!

Perhaps rather than deporting the same people over and over and over, there could be a path to citizenship through employment.

Please feel free to provide a link to some of that evidence.
I've seen significant evidence that illegal immigration has skyrocketed in California in the last 20 years, and the rates of crimes you're talking about hasn't skyrocketed...

In fact, statistics tell us that those cities with the highest percentage of illegal immigrants are among the safest cities in the US. I've posted multiple studies showing things like this, but when facts battle memes, facts lose. Badly.
newbie
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The economic destruction, property devaluing, educational decline, drugs, disease, rape, child molesting, and death that illegal invaders bring to America is a well documented fact with decades of evidence.

Please feel free to provide a link to some of that evidence.
I've seen significant evidence that illegal immigration has skyrocketed in California in the last 20 years, and the rates of crimes you're talking about hasn't skyrocketed...
member
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I suggested a different approach to the problem, but you didn't seem to notice it. What, exactly, do you find wrong with cracking down on those who hire illegals?

I noticed, but chose to elaborate on existing law. As for cracking down on hiring illegals, there are laws already in place to deal with this issue. They just need to be applied. We have adequate federal enforcement, but there seems to be no will to seek out the offenders, and even less will to prosecute the offenders and deport the illegals. Instead, Obama prefers to release illegal criminals back into mainstream America to ply their trade.
full member
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We have a system in place with a path to citizenship. Rewarding criminal activity (illegal immigration) with citizenship is a slap in the face to every immigrant who came here legally and earned their citizenship according to our laws (all four of my grandparents earned their citizenship). The only people who feel we are mean spirited, selfish, short-sighted or rather vicious, are those who want something for nothing...aka the takers. Unless you come from native American lineage, this is a slap in the face of your ancestors as well..provided they became citizens.

I suggested a different approach to the problem, but you didn't seem to notice it. What, exactly, do you find wrong with cracking down on those who hire illegals?
member
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Not with adherence to the law, but I do have a problem with a policy that makes America look mean-spirited, selfish, short-sighted, and rather vicious. At the very least, cracking down on those who illegally employ the illegal immigrants would accomplish the same purpose without the Auschwitz overtones.

We have a system in place with a path to citizenship. Rewarding criminal activity (illegal immigration) with citizenship is a slap in the face to every immigrant who came here legally and earned their citizenship according to our laws (all four of my grandparents earned their citizenship). The only people who feel we are mean spirited, selfish, short-sighted or rather vicious, are those who want something for nothing...aka the takers. Unless you come from native American lineage, this is a slap in the face of your ancestors as well..provided they became citizens.
member
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And in fact, SOME of us are aware that Trump has filed for bankruptcy FOUR TIMES. Brilliant businessman that he is, which he must be, he keeps telling us so many times.

In spite of his setbacks, he continues to surge ahead and is in good financial shape today. What do Lincoln Chafee. Hillary Clinton. Martin O'Malley. Bernie Sanders and Jim Webb have to compare?
full member
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The Free can come & go as they please. It's the Illegals who won't. Do you have a problem with adherence to Federal law?

Not with adherence to the law, but I do have a problem with a policy that makes America look mean-spirited, selfish, short-sighted, and rather vicious. At the very least, cracking down on those who illegally employ the illegal immigrants would accomplish the same purpose without the Auschwitz overtones.
newbie
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Right now Trump is more appealing to me than Walker or Paul....
newbie
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Donald Trump is a kind of Cassius Clay/Mohamed Ali.

This former box champion was "the greatest" and he knew it and he proclaimed it to the four cardinal points with loud voice.

He had lots of followers who went crazy when Cassius Clay predicted that he will win the fight in the fourth round... and he did it. He was so good that he enjoyed the luxury to predict when he will Knock Out his opponent.

Of course, lots of people hated him as well, because his arrogant style of showing how good he was in this sport.

Donald Trump enjoys the privilege of being good in business, of being a great leader, of being charismatic, and of being powerful enough to open his mouth and say whatever he wants to say. In other words, he uses his freedom the best as he can.

You don't see the same with politicians who are practically hypocrites.

To tell the truth, many politicians are against illegal immigration, gay marriage and more, but they want to protect their political positions voting in favor of things that are against their will and the will of The People. They need the money of contributors who are mostly corrupt business people.

In this case, Donald Trump is his own boss, and this is his advantage over the rest of candidates.

While from the other contenders you will listen lies and false promises only, on the other hand from Donald Trump you will listen what he thinks is the best for the country. And as you can see, there is a huge difference between Donald Trump and the rest of candidates.
newbie
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And in fact, SOME of us are aware that Trump has filed for bankruptcy FOUR TIMES. Brilliant businessman that he is, which he must be, he keeps telling us so many times.

The DC Union Station was remodeled by a construction company in the times of Marion Barry, around the 70s-80s.. When the work was done and inspectors approved the remodeling, the company received the payment from the DC Treasury.

Right after the last penny was received, this company filled up for bankruptcy and changed its name. The location of the "new" company was the same. The construction equipment of the "new" company was the same. Most of the workers were the same. The same directors, the same offices, the same... the same.

But, the "new" company acquired a new logo, a new name, and this company was in business again.

After no more than a few months, it was found a structural problem in the DC Union Station and many claimed to "sue the construction company" which made the remodeling..

But, you can't sue a company that doesn't exist anymore. Lol.

This is a common trick that many companies do. You have no idea of how smart business people become to be in order to make more money right after a bankruptcy.

And, I think that this is how the name of Donald Trump was to become famous, when a scandal happened and his "former" company was involved. If you read his biography in Wikipedia, you will understand that he became more powerful right after each bankruptcy.

There are bankruptcies that happen when the lost is greater than the profit, and there are bankruptcies that happen in purpose, in order to avoid a court case, in order to create a bigger company, and so forth.
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
Sorry, but a fence? That sounds like a third grader came up with the idea. Roll Eyes
newbie
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The spittin' image of the Land of the Free, no doubt about it.

The Free can come & go as they please. It's the Illegals who won't. Do you have a problem with adherence to Federal law?
sr. member
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The spittin' image of the Land of the Free, no doubt about it. Send us the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Well it's all right, it's all right
Cause we've done so well so long
Still, when I think of the road we're traveling on
I wonder what's gone wrong
I can't help it, I wonder what's gone wrong

I don't care what it looks like as long as the job gets done, if you want it painted pink to make you feel better then so be it
full member
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if you build it correctly you wont have to shoot them and have sensors on it you wont have to have a large staff, only a quick response team, video cameras can also be used on the north side with motion detectors aimed at the side of the us sideof that wall, lots of razor wire on the side of the wall will detour many of them using ropes to repel down it

                                                           

The spittin' image of the Land of the Free, no doubt about it. Send us the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Well it's all right, it's all right
Cause we've done so well so long
Still, when I think of the road we're traveling on
I wonder what's gone wrong
I can't help it, I wonder what's gone wrong
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
And do you seriously think the long-term solution is to build a fence 2000 miles long, hire tens of thousand of government employees to patrol it shooting to kill on sight?

if you build it correctly you wont have to shoot them and have sensors on it you wont have to have a large staff, only a quick response team, video cameras can also be used on the north side with motion detectors aimed at the side of the us sideof that wall, lots of razor wire on the side of the wall will detour many of them using ropes to repel down it

                                                           
full member
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Sure, send them YOUR money and not mine.

And whose money do you think would be spent building a 2000 mile fence and manning it with 10,000 government employees?
newbie
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Do you think it might make sense to ask whether improvements in Mexico might change the equation, and look into how such improvements might be made?

Sure, send them YOUR money and not mine.
newbie
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Also convenient, Trump is flushing out those conservatives whose emotional enthusiasm towers over their knowledge or thoughtfulness. We get to see a clear line between the "understand the issue" people and the "nuke the gooks" people.

I see you don't obey our laws either. What is it with liberals who don't think the law applies to them?
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