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legendary
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You're saying that shitcoinoffering does it in the right way, am I correct?
No, not really.

I was saying that shitcoinoffering is also copy/pasting their own articles and posting links to site under it. It doesn't mean I don't like their articles (I like their articles), it is just something about forum rules.

I edited my last post if this confused you.
jr. member
Activity: 34
Merit: 1
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By the way,
Hi! I'm kinda related to this online magazine. Our goal is to explain what's up with crypto and why it's important. I share our posts here on Bitcointalk because I believe that the community may benefit from these features.
I'm still wondering how you're not benefiting from sharing only Forklog posts when in your own post you mentioned the collective pronoun "our". This makes me conclude that it's not about just you finding the articles, it makes me conclude there's definitely more than that to it. The fact that you've ignored our question until I said it and your response was "I ain't gonna elaborate more in this situation" just proves our point again. I'll put the quote above right next to the quote below and voila! You've just basically busted yourself. By "our", you've basically admitted you're part of Forklog one way or another.

I share exclusive content that explains what's up with crypto and why it's important. The articles provide analytics, opinions, and comprehensive research on an important matter.
"Our goal".. "I share exclusive content".. These two "kinda" link, don't they?
I've already said that I'm related to this online magazine. And I used the word "our" since there are obviously more people who are related to the magazine. Sorry, but what are you trying to prove here?

I was thinking about a solution and I also came up with an idea of posting articles in one thread. The problem is that the articles are long enough to post. It isn't news but analysis, research, and opinions. What would you recommend in this case?
Link your site in signature (click profile->profile forum information, you'll find it)
Create topic in altcoin discussion about your blog and link it in topic
For every new article, describe what is your new article about, don't just copy/paste it and whoever wants to read it will go to your blog.
Discuss everything in other forum parts but don't c/p your articles - I am sure other users will notice your signature (for example, this thread and your posts made me to peek in your site and I have found investigation article which I will read tomorrow, it looks interesting)
Read forum rules https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657 , if you find something confusing - just ask in that thread, moderators will respond.

Hm, I was thinking about something, isn't this something what shitcoinoffering was doing?
You're saying that shitcoinoffering does it in the right way, am I correct?
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 2270
I was thinking about a solution and I also came up with an idea of posting articles in one thread. The problem is that the articles are long enough to post. It isn't news but analysis, research, and opinions. What would you recommend in this case?
Link your site in signature (click profile->profile forum information, you'll find it)
Create topic in altcoin discussion about your blog and link it in topic
For every new article, describe what is your new article about, don't just copy/paste it and whoever wants to read it will go to your blog.
Discuss everything in other forum parts but don't c/p your articles - I am sure other users will notice your signature (for example, this thread and your posts made me to peek in your site and I have found investigation article which I will read tomorrow, it looks interesting)
Read forum rules https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657 , if you find something confusing - just ask in that thread, moderators will respond.

@OP hm, I was thinking about something, isn't this something what shitcoinoffering was doing?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
I was thinking about a solution and I also came up with an idea of posting articles in one thread. The problem is that the articles are long enough to post. It isn't news but analysis, research, and opinions. What would you recommend in this case?

This isn't a site for articles, it's a site for discussions. Post something that is worth discussing and participate in those discussions yourself. Don't turn this is into drive-by copy-pasta.
jr. member
Activity: 34
Merit: 1
First, you accused me of abusing the forum. Then, you said that only bounty hunters read this forum. Well, it wasn't me who abused the forum, then. I respect the rules and I don't post anything to make-a-living. I explicitly said it. Stop manipulation, please.

Nice to gear that, also nice to hear that you're here to share articles full of information with the community.
Then I have the perfect solution that could keep you out of trouble, accusations and you would still be a precious asset for this forum. /s

So, how about next time you create a topic you:
a) write down the entire text so that users won't have to go to another site to read all the stuff
b) to get credit for the article and also to avoid plagiarism accusations you wend your post with
"Article first posted of Forlklog Media" < no clickable hyperlink

Somehow I am 100% sure you won't take this offer, so you should really come up with one hell of an excuse for not doing so  Wink
But we all know the truth, don't we?
So, how about next time you create a topic you:

Better yet, don't create new topics, just post new stuff in one thread. I'm sure the community will see and appreciate those great informational articles even if they're not in separate threads, just don't violate the bumping rules.
Thanks for trying to find a solution. I also would like to make sure that the community benefits from content on Bitcointalk!

I don't agree with the recent spam accusations. But I believe that neither o_e_l_e_o nor 20kevin20 is interested in finding a solution. They believe that exclusive content that helps users understand what's with crypto and why it's important is nothing but "irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent for the purposes of advertising". I respect their right to dislike the content. And I really think that they do a good job for this forum by reporting spammers.

My case is just different and sometimes it's good to make all points clear before accusing anyone. My motivation is to make sure that the community receives important content. If the users are interested in the content they will visit the website.

I was thinking about a solution and I also came up with an idea of posting articles in one thread. The problem is that the articles are long enough to post. It isn't news but analysis, research, and opinions. What would you recommend in this case?
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
So, how about next time you create a topic you:

Better yet, don't create new topics, just post new stuff in one thread. I'm sure the community will see and appreciate those great informational articles even if they're not in separate threads, just don't violate the bumping rules.
legendary
Activity: 2912
Merit: 6403
Blackjack.fun
First, you accused me of abusing the forum. Then, you said that only bounty hunters read this forum. Well, it wasn't me who abused the forum, then. I respect the rules and I don't post anything to make-a-living. I explicitly said it. Stop manipulation, please.

Nice to gear that, also nice to hear that you're here to share articles full of information with the community.
Then I have the perfect solution that could keep you out of trouble, accusations and you would still be a precious asset for this forum. /s

So, how about next time you create a topic you:
a) write down the entire text so that users won't have to go to another site to read all the stuff
b) to get credit for the article and also to avoid plagiarism accusations you wend your post with
"Article first posted of Forlklog Media" < no clickable hyperlink

Somehow I am 100% sure you won't take this offer, so you should really come up with one hell of an excuse for not doing so  Wink
But we all know the truth, don't we?
hero member
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Merit: 566
Reporting a newbie account user jenniferletty which account was registered on November 10, 2017 which seems to be selling fake hyip scripts and the username seems to back posting the same offer after been inactivity for months.
legendary
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Merit: 5637
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I have a decent number of reported posts for all users from OP, and two of them are as observed mostly post in Press board content that is in most cases not in any way related to Bitcoin. I must admit JessicaVL has invested the most creativity in her/his post, but this does not in any way diminish the fact that this is an advertisement that does not belong in the post area.

I hope that the moderators will take a much firmer stance on this type of behavior, as this is obviously about the intention to use the forum as an advertising platform against the rules of the forum.

I would advise anyone mentioned in this thread to take advantage of the ability to advertise through an avatar, personal text or signatures which are completely legitimate ways to promote something.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 18587
You've already said you are affiliated with this site. You are obviously therefore benefiting somehow from spamming it all over the forum.
That's your assumption. You have the right to have it. I respect it.
It's not an assumption if you have already admitted it:

Hi! I'm kinda related to this online magazine. Our goal is to explain what's up with crypto and why it's important.

If you aren't being paid, then the only logical conclusion is that either you, or a team you are part of, own and operate this site.
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1597
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This is my last reply to you, because there's no point in debating this subject with users like you. The point we're trying to make is that this forum is filled up with crap like what you're posting, which is just copy-pasting articles you consider "useful". Time has proven to all of us that explaining what's good and what isn't here to the spammers has no positive ending to +90% of the cases. To your knowledge, I have busted a ring of almost 60 members here that have actively spammed the forum with their Crowdholding and publish0x shitposting just a few days ago. If you believe this is what BitcoinTalk is for, no offense but GTFO. It's becoming annoying as hell, but busting them feels good, man.

"I share exclusive content that explains what's up with crypto" It would've been different if you were here to actually participate in the threads you're posting. Again, if everyone would do what you're doing here, the forum would literally become a Paste button for all articles one might find interesting because "whether or not to click the link is really up to the community".

Anyway, I suggest that you read what's spam before you start to accuse anyone of spamming again. Stop manipulation, please (3).

Good, let's do it!
According to google, the definition of spam is "irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to a large number of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc". The fact that +95% of your posts were published on BitcoinTalk with links to Forklog proves our point that you're just spamming the forum. Now let's take some reference from the unofficial list of official rules BTCTalk moderators have used to moderate the forum:

It occurred to me that I should write a little about this in case anyone's wondering about what dogie's doing, or why other people are getting banned for somewhat similar activity:

Ads are typically not allowed in posts (outside of the signature area) because they are annoying and off-topic. It is especially disallowed to put ads or signatures at the bottom of all of your posts. Except for traditional valedictions, which are tolerated but discouraged, signatures are for the signature area only.

However, if you are using the forum as a publishing platform to host something really substantial and useful, selling ads in that substantial work is allowed. To be eligible for this, your post must be in a topic that you started, and your post must be substantial and long enough to make the ad seem entirely insignificant. If in doubt, ask me.

Now before you call us bounty/witch hunters/fighters, maybe you should take into consideration the fact that it's the forum vs you. Just because you think what you're doing is okay doesn't make it okay. Take care.



Edit:
By the way,
Hi! I'm kinda related to this online magazine. Our goal is to explain what's up with crypto and why it's important. I share our posts here on Bitcointalk because I believe that the community may benefit from these features.
I'm still wondering how you're not benefiting from sharing only Forklog posts when in your own post you mentioned the collective pronoun "our". This makes me conclude that it's not about just you finding the articles, it makes me conclude there's definitely more than that to it. The fact that you've ignored our question until I said it and your response was "I ain't gonna elaborate more in this situation" just proves our point again. I'll put the quote above right next to the quote below and voila! You've just basically busted yourself. By "our", you've basically admitted you're part of Forklog one way or another.

I share exclusive content that explains what's up with crypto and why it's important. The articles provide analytics, opinions, and comprehensive research on an important matter.
"Our goal".. "I share exclusive content".. These two "kinda" link, don't they?
And then, FINALLY, because I've wasted enough time debunking all this situation, I had a quick Google lookup of the "exclusive" articles you've posted and the same quantity of information can easily be found on a lot of websites. By "exclusive" I understand insight information you can't find somewhere else.
jr. member
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It's not your right to abuse the forum and break forum rules in the pursuit of making money, though.
You threads only prove that bounty hunters like spamming in them, and this thread proves that the community agrees with me.
First, you accused me of abusing the forum. Then, you said that only bounty hunters read this forum. Well, it wasn't me who abused the forum, then. I respect the rules and I don't post anything to make-a-living. I explicitly said it. Stop manipulation, please.

Doing a Google search for "bitcoin" will provide a list of topics which could be discussed. That doesn't mean that posting a screenshot of Google results is an interesting topic.
The given example is incorrect and unreliable, again. The screenshot of Google results contains different links and doesn't elaborate on the topics, and thus doesn't bring any value. I share exclusive content that explains what's up with crypto and why it's important. The articles provide analytics, opinions, and comprehensive research on an important matter. I do it once per day and always include a short description or lead-in, so that the community still can discuss things without clicking the link. Thus whether or not to click the link is really up to the community. Stop manipulation, please (2).

You've already said you are affiliated with this site. You are obviously therefore benefiting somehow from spamming it all over the forum.
That's your assumption. You have the right to have it. I respect it.

Exactly. The fact that all my reports against you are marked as "good" means the mods agree you are a spammer.
No, it means that they deem some topics to breake the rules somehow. There might be several reasons. I respect their decision, yet don't understand it. I explicitly said it as well.

Anyway, I suggest that you read what's spam before you start to accuse anyone of spamming again. Stop manipulation, please (3).

Forgive me if I'am wrong with my search, this is the first time I try reporting advertise users  Smiley
Another bounty-hunterfighter joins this wild witch-hunt. Good luck!
legendary
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legendary
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And the metrics say that the community has proved my statement to be correct.
Your threads only prove that bounty hunters like spamming in them, and this thread proves that the community agrees with me.

I don't discuss things much but I provide the community with interesting topics to discuss, so I use the forum for its intended purpose, which is to discuss ideas.
Doing a Google search for "bitcoin" will provide a list of topics which could be discussed. That doesn't mean that posting a screenshot of Google results is an interesting topic.

who shares exclusive content without receiving any benefits for it.
You've already said you are affiliated with this site. You are obviously therefore benefiting somehow from spamming it all over the forum.

It's up to mods to decide.
Exactly. The fact that all my reports against you are marked as "good" means the mods agree you are a spammer.

It's your right to choose how to make-a-living thought.
It's not your right to abuse the forum and break forum rules in the pursuit of making money, though.
copper member
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Top Crypto Casino
Another advertising shill
- crabby

This user's posts are becoming more and more annoying. He pretends to be creating discussion topics but there is actually no content in all his Original posts... There is always a hyper text link to "blog.shrimpy.io" in all the posts
 
Archives of 4 pages of the post history;
1. http://archive.fo/CpOkL
2. http://archive.fo/pip3J
3. http://archive.fo/2Vyt5
4. http://archive.fo/QpClL
jr. member
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I don't deem my threads a low value or uninteresting.
Self-evaluation is in most cases incorrect and basically means nothing. No offense, it's the case for anyone.

All the rest of the discussion is basically meaningless and you don't have to "convince us". The facts are there to be checked.

PS: shouldn't be the advertising like this stay in the product ANN thread (at most!) ?
Thanks @NeuroticFish!

Re evaluation, that's my point exactly, let me quote myself today:
Or are you saying that you'd rather receive advertisements and links constantly from a friend on WhatsApp rather than seeing his website or service promoted in his profile pic?

You seem to answer and contradict everyone but you're ignoring the question we've all asked: what do you mean by the fact that you are "kinda related" to the website you're spamming?
I'm saying that I 'd rather receive the link to exclusive content than see a bunch of casinos ads in his profile pic and signature every time he publishes anything of "highest quality" on Bitcointalk. After all, I don't know what's an intent to publish posts. It might be either bring value or earn some satoshis, or both. It's your right to choose how to make-a-living thought.

You've preferred to accuse me over clarify things first. Ultimately, I've answered "everyone's" question by saying that I share exclusive content without receiving payments or any other benefits for it. I ain't gonna elaborate more in this situation, as I ain't spamming.  

Good luck in your witchbounty-huntfight.
legendary
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I will leave this user CoinTrendy here as an addition to the OP list.

His second page of posts and half of his first is filled with this website: http://archive.fo/kE9dJ

At least he does respond to the feedback coming from his readers. But his first posts are completely useless, just his link spammed everywhere.





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So you're basically saying that it is better to promote casinos for payments than share exclusive content without being paid for it.

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What I can see here is that a bunch of bounty hunters with paid signatures (20kevin20, o_e_l_e_o, suchmoon, hosseinimr93) accuses person who shares exclusive content without receiving any benefits for it. No offense but that's just too much.

First of all, I'm not a bounty hunter. Nor is suchmoon or o_e_l_e_o. In fact, they are both part of one of the best and longest standing BitcoinTalk campaign where the members with highest quality of posts on this forum "fight" for open spots. So this alone makes your statement nonsense. They're high quality posters. They're a big value to the forum.

And then, there's a difference between having a promoted website in a signature and constantly spamming the forum with the same website. The latter cannot be changed unless you delete your threads and posts, while signatures can.

Or are you saying that you'd rather receive advertisements and links constantly from a friend on WhatsApp rather than seeing his website or service promoted in his profile pic?

You seem to answer and contradict everyone but you're ignoring the question we've all asked: what do you mean by the fact that you are "kinda related" to the website you're spamming?
legendary
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I don't deem my threads a low value or uninteresting.

Self-evaluation is in most cases incorrect and basically means nothing. No offense, it's the case for anyone.


I don't know all the names from the topic, but the ones I know do fit in that category.
And I agree to @o_e_l_e_o : mods will have to check the facts and make a decision.

All the rest of the discussion is basically meaningless and you don't have to "convince us". The facts are there to be checked.


PS: shouldn't be the advertising like this stay in the product ANN thread (at most!) ?
jr. member
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Did I break the rules of this forum?
As I said in my post above, this kind of behavior breaks rules regarding spamming, low value or uninteresting threads, and unsubstantial advertising.

Just take a look at the number of views messages in the threads.
This is a useless metric, I'm afriad. You are posting on Bitcoin Discussion and Altcoin Discussion. These boards are some of the core posting areas of bounty spammers. Pretty much any thread will get views and replies. Take a look at some of the utterly trash topics which are getting hundreds of replies and thousands of views: Example 1, Example 2, Example 3.

And that's why I don't understand why some of the topics have been deleted.
Because you are not using the forum for its intended purpose, which is to discuss ideas. You are abusing the forum for free advertising for your site.

Anyway, if this forum is not the right place to share important content for the community I will stop doing this immediately.
I would hardly call a bunch of blog posts "important content".
I don't deem my threads a low value or uninteresting. But as far as I ain't the one who should decide I refer to your own metrics. And the metrics say that the community has proved my statement to be correct. And anyway, why is this thread is not popular, then?

You're right. I don't discuss things much but I provide the community with interesting topics to discuss, so I use the forum for its intended purpose, which is to discuss ideas.

My posting history is not perfect , but what I don’t do is just repeat something I’ve seen or heard and put on this forum .
I just checked your posting history. You did repeat something you've seen or heard and put on this forum. Nice catch, isn't it?

Imagine if everyone did the same thing you're doing on the forum. It would become home to a sh*tload of copied articles. Contribution to the forum is appreciated, what you're doing is not. This forum is no home to free ads.
So you're basically saying that it is better to promote casinos for payments than share exclusive content without being paid for it.

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What I can see here is that a bunch of bounty hunters with paid signatures (20kevin20, o_e_l_e_o, suchmoon, hosseinimr93) accuses person who shares exclusive content without receiving any benefits for it. No offense but that's just too much.
legendary
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After this thread - Policy on users like this guy? - and seeing pretty rapid action being taken against the user responsible as well as said user then ceasing this copy and paste shilling spam, I figured I would compile a list of other users who display the same behavior patterns for the mods to review and hopefully take action against. And honestly, I'm getting kinda bored of reporting the same names over and over again.

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I wish there was a rule that would forbid these kind of actions. The forum isn't a clipboard, it's a community where you talk and speak your mind, way too many are using it as a "Paste" button to their crappy articles.


Hi @o_e_l_e_o. Did I break the rules of this forum? To the best of my knowledge, I didn't.

What I basically do is share one exclusive article per day. I personally believe that the bitcointalk's community may benefit from these features. Moreover, the community proved my belief to be reliable. The users like content that I share. Just take a look at the number of views messages in the threads. That's why I share the articles. And that's why I don't understand why some of the topics have been deleted.

Please elaborate what's the problem. Otherwise, it truly looks like a witch-hunt.

Anyway, if this forum is not the right place to share important content for the community I will stop doing this immediately. But would the community benefit from it? Let's ask the community, maybe?
20 out of your 21 posts (I've excluded your replies to accusations) are copy-pasted articles from forklog. That's equal to more than 95% of your posts so far being copy-pasted stuff. If this is what you believe belongs on BitcoinTalk, I guess we're sorry to say you're more than wrong. Imagine if everyone did the same thing you're doing on the forum. It would become home to a sh*tload of copied articles. It's like every time you try to talk to someone, they pull out a magazine and start reading out loud from it. Contribution to the forum is appreciated, what you're doing is not.

If by "kinda related" to forklog you mean you're working with them by promoting their articles (or writing articles for them), go get some paid advertisements. This forum is no home to free ads.


I'm not entirely sure if you want the literal meaning of the word, but...

kinda = kind of; it's like...;
It's an easy answer he/she is trying to avoid. It's very simple: you either are affiliated with them or you're not.
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