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legendary
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I have bet on sports on FortuneJack many times, and I have never had to wager my deposits 2x before withdrawing them. Are the numbers only for casino

It is because Fortunejack has different term for sport betting as quoted below:

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9.1.1. On Slots, Casino Games and Live Games Your deposit amount must be wagered, be turned over 2 (two) times;
9.1.2.  On Sportsbook Services You have to make at least one bet with minimum stake of 50% of Your deposit amount (example: if Your deposit amount is equivalent to EUR 100, You have to bet minimum EUR 50 on any position You can select on Sportsbook Services);

That's why you do not need to wager 2x of your deposit because you play sports betting so you need to bet half of your deposit only. 2x wagering requirement is applied for those who play the casino games as per above terms. When I was still active in Fortunejack, I have never counted how much I have wagered before making a withdrawal but I have never experienced issue with withdrawal.
legendary
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Interesting information.
I have never thought about the wagering requirements that way because I mostly gamble on sports. I have never experienced issues withdrawing my winnings, even after a 1x playthrough. Anything more than that is just malicious in my opinion, no matter what casino does it. Unless, of course, they suspect the player of some wrongdoings.

FunClub casino is just awful in that regard. So is Thor casino or Trustdice with their 5x wagering requirements.
I have bet on sports on FortuneJack many times, and I have never had to wager my deposits 2x before withdrawing them. Are the numbers only for casino games? In that case, I think you should mention that in the OP because the rules might be different for sports betting.

I also want to suggest something else for the table.
For several casinos you wrote, "wagering requirement of at least 5 times the deposit amount when player is suspected." I think you should add to that sentence and say what they can be suspected of. ... when they are suspected of coin mixing or using the casino as a coin mixer. Otherwise, it just looks incomplete.
legendary
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This can be an essential thing to the gamblers who just always get baited with the marketing strategy of the gambling casino and get tired to read the terms and conditions with the casinos well even though base on my experience I haven't seen those in their requirements so this good to me to know at the same time that this could be use by the other casino too to prevent an account to get tag too as freeze account or holding due to they won and would like to withdrawal immediately.
hero member
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@GxSTxV, Maybe indicate on the title that this wagering requirement list is for a non-bonus deposit to avoid confusion about your main objective here. I'm planning to create a local version on our board. Nice work with the update. Keep it up! IOU 1 merit.
I will add it immediately. I have already responded to many similar posts from users who were unaware that these wagering rules apply to normal deposits that do not include bonuses. The main reason for this confusion is that these users werent aware of the existence of such rules in the first place.
Plus it would be a great idea to create a local topic with this list for more attention and we can continue to update it and potentially convey this message to some of these casinos in the hopes of improving their rules.


Yeah! It's quite common to see this on this board. Many users tend to respond to posts without taking the time to read and understand the actual topic of the thread. It can be frustrating to see this kind of behavior...  Undecided
And to answer so98nn's post, last time I checked freebitco.in has no wagering requirements on our deposits. (We are not talking about bonuses here.)
We may see these users returning to this topic in the future if they have an experience with one of these casinos. It is unfortunate that someone may make a deposit win or lose some of his balance and then want to withdraw it and get surprised with such rules.
Regarding Freebitco.in, I dont consider it to be an actual casino as it has a different spot betting system with only few games and options with a dice and a lottery. And as i remember it does not impose any wagering requirements for normal deposits.


Anyway, add Sportsbet.io in the list as they have same 5× wagering requirement.
Yes i will add it right now
legendary
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First of all I want to thankyou for your efforts in examining the terms and conditions of various casinos knowing how much it’s difficult finding precise information regarding the wagering requirements.
It was my pleasure to give you some updates as you have made this table for helping the gamblers. It took a few hours only to check the wagering requirement of 35+ casinos. I have also created two topics to help the gambling community, it had taken a few days to finalise those tables by collecting the information from each casino.

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As for Livecasino case where they didn’t mention about how much wagering they require for normal users and not getting a clear answer from their live support as well i think keeping it in the list is important before clearing things out.
Livecasino.io, Bitcasino.io and Sportsbet.io have same wagering requirement rules as they are operated by the same group. But this rule is applied to possible money laundering activity only. Usually there is no wagering requirement, you may verify this by asking about it to their live support or email support.

Anyway, add Sportsbet.io in the list as they have same 5× wagering requirement.
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There are many casinos out there who are asking for higher wagering requirement but they’re perks with them as well. For example, freebitcoin which is basically a faucet but turned into whole new multiplier game and sports betting is now almost a casino has wagering requirement of 25X the availed bonus eligibility.

This gets insane when you have high bonus eligibility. It’s like both advantage and disadvantage. They also have stringent rule like, whenever you avail the eligible bonus an equivalent amount of balance is also deducted from the account. Then algorithm sets 25x wagering requirement on that amount. It’s huge actually.

Bonus wagering requirements are not in question here. The deposit wagering requirements are the main topic if you read the entire content of the OP. x25 wagering requirements for a bonus can be considered as low since many casinos offer the worst wagering requirements that can go as high as x200 or more depending on how many bonuses they can give.

Yeah! It's quite common to see this on this board. Many users tend to respond to posts without taking the time to read and understand the actual topic of the thread. It can be frustrating to see this kind of behavior...  Undecided

And to answer so98nn's post, last time I checked freebitco.in has no wagering requirements on our deposits. (We are not talking about bonuses here.)

@GxSTxV, Maybe indicate on the title that this wagering requirement list is for a non-bonus deposit to avoid confusion about your main objective here. I'm planning to create a local version on our board. Nice work with the update. Keep it up! IOU 1 merit.

+1

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There are many casinos out there who are asking for higher wagering requirement but they’re perks with them as well. For example, freebitcoin which is basically a faucet but turned into whole new multiplier game and sports betting is now almost a casino has wagering requirement of 25X the availed bonus eligibility.

This gets insane when you have high bonus eligibility. It’s like both advantage and disadvantage. They also have stringent rule like, whenever you avail the eligible bonus an equivalent amount of balance is also deducted from the account. Then algorithm sets 25x wagering requirement on that amount. It’s huge actually.

Bonus wagering requirements are not in question here. The deposit wagering requirements are the main topic if you read the entire content of the OP. x25 wagering requirements for a bonus can be considered as low since many casinos offer the worst wagering requirements that can go as high as x200 or more depending on how many bonuses they can give.


@GxSTxV, Maybe indicate on the title that this wagering requirement list is for a non-bonus deposit to avoid confusion about your main objective here. I'm planning to create a local version on our board. Nice work with the update. Keep it up! IOU 1 merit.
hero member
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Most of the casino has 0× to 1× wagering requirement on the normal deposits (no-bonus deposit). I have checked the rollover/wagering requirements of 35+ crypto casinos today. I found only 5 gambling site where the rollover requirement is at least 3×.


I apologize for my late response as I have been occupied for the past few days. First of all I want to thankyou for your efforts in examining the terms and conditions of various casinos knowing how much it’s difficult finding precise information regarding the wagering requirements. I don’t understand why some casinos make this information convoluted and unclear in addition to that they impose harsh and unjust requirements

Hopefully at least one of these casinos will take our feedback into consideration and work to satisfy their users and gamblers. It is worth noting that a casino with simple and easy requirements would be the top choice and a superior option for gamblers and of course with enough rules to prevent money laundering or coin mixing. Therefore reducing and improving the terms and conditions would be a wise move even for the casino to gain more players.


@GxSTxV here are two other casinos I could find.

Thank you @Zwei for your help as well, i will update the list now. And for fortunejack casino they set two different requirements for normal and suspected users that goes from x2 up to x5


I remember reading some comments before about Livecasino having x5 wagering requirements for suspected mixers. Livecasino doesn’t have wagering requirements at all on regular withdrawal but still the casino is listed under x5 wagering requirements because it’s the highest possibility in the casino.
This list is made out of frustration with his experience on high wagering requirements of the casino. I can’t blame him on this.
I created this list for one reason only which to let people know about these high requirements which most of people didn’t notice or got use to x1 wagering requirements. All i did is searching and reading terms and conditions of every possible crypto casino and listing the highest ones. As for Livecasino case where they didn’t mention about how much wagering they require for normal users and not getting a clear answer from their live support as well i think keeping it in the list is important before clearing things out.
hero member
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There are many casinos out there who are asking for higher wagering requirement but they’re perks with them as well. For example, freebitcoin which is basically a faucet but turned into whole new multiplier game and sports betting is now almost a casino has wagering requirement of 25X the availed bonus eligibility.

This gets insane when you have high bonus eligibility. It’s like both advantage and disadvantage. They also have stringent rule like, whenever you avail the eligible bonus an equivalent amount of balance is also deducted from the account. Then algorithm sets 25x wagering requirement on that amount. It’s huge actually.
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  -  Does this mean that if for example I deposit 30$ in the live casino since their requirements are 5x wagering, the calculation is 30$x5=150$ I will accumulate first playing win or lose before I can withdraw from their casino?

Yeah, that's pretty much how it works. It can be a bit of a downer, but that's just how some online casinos work. They want to make sure that players are actually using the platform and not just depositing money and immediately cashing out.

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It also means that before entering a casino that we are going to gamble with, we should first know how many x of wagering they need for withdrawal.

I agree. Just make sure to read the terms and conditions carefully before making any deposits, so you know what you're getting into. Some of these casinos can even be extra strict about which games you can play to meet the wagering requirements. For example, they don't count bets on games with low multipliers like 1.1x. I'm not 100% sure if this rule applies to just bonus offers or if it includes regular deposits too.
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For casinos then it would be normal that they would really asking or putting withdrawal requirements for any deposits.We know that they are regulated which means that
they would really be following on to those regulations and money laundering would be always the case.
I don't agree with you, friend, because not all casinos will ask for requirements for every withdrawal process that is carried out.
The casino asks for conditions because they really want customers not to withdraw all their money so they remain in the casino to continue their gaming session.
Any casino that provides withdrawal requirements to avoid money laundering is by way of KYC not by wagering requirements.
If there is a wagering requirement for the withdrawal process maybe it is because of the bonus that casinos will not let their customers take the bonus for free.

Everything is focused on money laundering, but for those who are regular players, it doesn't really matter if there is money laundering or not,what Matters is that when you enter or register in a casino it is to find a way to win or win, it doesn't matter how, but winning, and if there are Requirements in the bonuses or promotions is something that is already normal,nothing is never free, for me the Requirements for bonuses and promotions is a very simple way to take advantage of the fun for the player to consume all the money he deposited, and about the kyc, it is already known that no casino is going to go against government regulations.
hero member
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I don`t like such requirements, but if we are going to use just one casino for gambling - it would be a problem only on start. It can be a problem for bonushunters or when you only choosing your casino. Later you are just gambling with easy deposit and withdraw. May be it is normally for my kind of gambling - i mostly deposit one time and gamble for it for month or even longer.
legendary
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In a general sense, I think that a wager requirement should not be so high to give the player hope, I personally see that I have a 30x and for once I get Discouraged,in fact I don't play anymore, I forget about it. I play in that casino and of all the Games in that casino,I think I would never go back to that casino Because it is an obvious sign that the casino is interested in capitalizing and not giving a player good options to win, Apart from all the things that They must be overcome, the advantage of the case, of the same game and if they put something like that on it, I Prefer not to play in that casino anymore and I Advise my friends not to play there anymore.
legendary
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   -  Does this mean that if for example I deposit 30$ in the live casino since their requirements are 5x wagering, the calculation is 30$x5=150$ I will accumulate first playing win or lose before I can withdraw from their casino?

Since the x5 rule in livecasino is for suspected users, so if you are suspected then yes you will need to wager at least $150 for $30 deposit but if livecasino do not suspect you, you wont need to wager x5 of your deposit. Based on what I have ever read in their official ANN thread, for normal players, you will only need to wager x1 of your deposit.

I don't agree with you, friend, because not all casinos will ask for requirements for every withdrawal process that is carried out.
The casino asks for conditions because they really want customers not to withdraw all their money so they remain in the casino to continue their gaming session.
Any casino that provides withdrawal requirements to avoid money laundering is by way of KYC not by wagering requirements.
If there is a wagering requirement for the withdrawal process maybe it is because of the bonus that casinos will not let their customers take the bonus for free.

Most casinos apply wagering requirement before players able to request withdrawal, it is one of their ways to avoid money laundering or mixing service. KYC is another step for this case, and even if you have completed KYC in a casino, you will still be required to wager at least 1x of your deposit before you can request a withdrawal. Means that KYC will not make you free from the wagering requirement for normal deposit without bonus.
hero member
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For casinos then it would be normal that they would really asking or putting withdrawal requirements for any deposits.We know that they are regulated which means that
they would really be following on to those regulations and money laundering would be always the case.
I don't agree with you, friend, because not all casinos will ask for requirements for every withdrawal process that is carried out.
The casino asks for conditions because they really want customers not to withdraw all their money so they remain in the casino to continue their gaming session.
Any casino that provides withdrawal requirements to avoid money laundering is by way of KYC not by wagering requirements.
If there is a wagering requirement for the withdrawal process maybe it is because of the bonus that casinos will not let their customers take the bonus for free.
sr. member
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   -  Does this mean that if for example I deposit 30$ in the live casino since their requirements are 5x wagering, the calculation is 30$x5=150$ I will accumulate first playing win or lose before I can withdraw from their casino?

It also means that before entering a casino that we are going to gamble with, we should first know how many x of wagering they need for withdrawal.
legendary
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days ago I saw these casinos with these abusive requirements and I was wondering the following: how can these casinos that do this not be considered that they are stealing customers indirectly. we should ask these casinos how many people have deposited at the casino and managed to meet these absurd requirements and made withdrawals. because in my opinion I believe that out of 100 customers who deposit money in these casinos only less than 5 customers will be able to meet these requirements and will be able to withdraw money and even those 5 customers will be forced to have to go through KYC so I think it's not about laundering of money that these casinos created these rules

these casinos know very well that no one can meet x30 and then be able to withdraw, this type of high requirement will make people addicted to games of chance because the person will make a deposit at the casino, then win, but even so he will still not be able to withdraw the amount he won, he has to play more at the casino and when spending a lot of time in the casino playing to fulfill x30 the person will lose everything and obviously he will put more money in the casino to play and recover he will lose everything

I advise all people not to use these casinos that are in these rules because they are clearly rules created with the sole purpose of retaining people's money, these casinos have no intention of paying customers, they only intend to see customers losing everything in the casino
Are you talking about the wagering requirement for bonuses? Because 30x or sometimes even 50x is asked only for the bonuses given on top of a deposit, but the casinos listed here are those who have insane wagering requirements for even your own deposited money, which for most casinos is only 1x but these casinos have 3 or 5x wagering requirement for deposited money.

The motive behind such a rule can be nothing else than to keep the players gambling until they lose everything which happens in most cases and might not happen only to a few, so it's a win-win for the casino since even if a player manages to win something, they will lose it back eventually trying to complete the wagering requirements.

It is that the 30x requirement is too much for me, but the 50x requirement would already be an abuse or something impossible for me, I don't know in which thread or what they said that with patience you could reach this requirement, that seems crazy to me and the who said it I think it is also close to being so (no offense) but something like that is not how they paint it, so when you talk about it, I have my own criteria, and that is not to take it, you cannot be stupid in life to do or Accept something like that, and whoever says that he does and can Achieve it, I dare say that I do not believe him, of course it is my way of thinking and speculating.
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The normal wagering requirement for deposit without bonus in Fortunejack is 2x as what we can see in the FAQ page.



I’m surprised that FJ increase their initial deposit wagering requirements from x1 to x2 from the last time I play on the casino.

So if OP want to add it on the list, it will be better if the information is written as 2x-5x.
Frankly, having the term about "suspected users" for using the site as mixer is a bit confusing for me.
If a casino has a standard wagering requirement already (1x-2x), I dont think there is no urgency for the casino to have the term for different wagering requirement for suspected users.


Considering how the OP manage the list. He is only mentioning the highest wagering requirements available since he is trying to emphasize here casino with high wagering requirements. I remember reading some comments before about Livecasino having x5 wagering requirements for suspected mixers. Livecasino doesn’t have wagering requirements at all on regular withdrawal but still the casino is listed under x5 wagering requirements because it’s the highest possibility in the casino.

This list is made out of frustration with his experience on high wagering requirements of the casino. I can’t blame him on this.
legendary
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@GxSTxV here are two other casinos I could find.

fortunejack.com:



The normal wagering requirement for deposit without bonus in Fortunejack is 2x as what we can see in the FAQ page.



So if OP want to add it on the list, it will be better if the information is written as 2x-5x.
Frankly, having the term about "suspected users" for using the site as mixer is a bit confusing for me.
If a casino has a standard wagering requirement already (1x-2x), I dont think there is no urgency for the casino to have the term for different wagering requirement for suspected users.

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@GxSTxV here are two other casinos I could find.

fortunejack.com:



vave.com:

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