List of crypto casinos with high wagering requirements - page 5.

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Quote from: QueenVera on April 14, 2023, 03:34:10 PM

There are several casinos that wouldn't even allow you make withdrawals even on a no bonus deposits and one major reason why casinos wouldn't let people make withdrawals immediately after deposit is because they are trying to Fight against money laundering and fraudulent activities through their casinos and platforms.
If we can recall in the past that most of this drug Lords always channel their money through casinos making it difficult for people to track their wealth because when asked, they would simply just say that it was gotten from gambling and that was one major reason why kyc was also Introduced into th gambling industry.

The problem isn't in not allowing withdrawal directly after the deposit, but the issue is that some of the casinos are asking for very high wagering requirements for the deposited money, to prevent money laundering and other frauds, a 1x wagering requirement along with KYC should be enough, there is no need for a very high wagering requirement to stop that.

A casino that requires their users to wager their deposited amount at least 5 times or more is simply not allowing them to withdraw the money at all because anyone would lose the money if they go for completing a wagering requirement that high.

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Quote from: klidex on April 16, 2023, 06:20:43 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 16, 2023, 04:58:03 AM

I think people should not support any of the casinos that use tactics like this to lure people to their casinos. It is unethical in my opinion to create a false scenario where it looks like you are getting something for free, but you implement measures to get it all back. Roll Eyes

These silly promotions are a total waste of time and people should just opt out on joining these casinos. I have never won anything from the deposit bonus that these casinos offered me. Sad

Remember the casino doesn't want to lose, bro
From some of these problems, sometimes gamblers are lazy to take the welcome bonus or any bonus given by the casino and choose to go straight to the gambling table.
Because for some gamblers the bonus will only make the mind dizzy when they have to complete a very large total bet.
But sometimes what's annoying is when you don't take the bonus and want to withdraw funds you have to bet 5x the deposit amount, it's annoying.
Although not all casinos have a 5x withdrawal requirement but I will consider it more because I have had that experience.

Casinos? They're businesses, folks, and they want to make money. Big money. It's annoying for gamblers, feeling like the odds are against us. The urge to skip the bonus and hit the tables? Intense, especially with strings attached. But what if there's a better way?

Picture yourself as a pirate hunting treasure. The bonus: It's your map to the gold. It might be confusing, but once you get it, you're sailing to the jackpot! And even if you don't win bigly, you had a fantastic adventure.

So, next time you're choosing between a bonus or not, remember: it's not just cash. It's the experience, the thrill, and maybe striking it rich. Who knows? You might even learn to navigate the casino seas like a pro

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Quote from: GxSTxV on April 16, 2023, 10:53:46 AM

Quote from: sashapan on April 16, 2023, 08:29:32 AM

Here's another casino very overrated wagering, on first deposit bonus, first deposit bonus is 100%. wagering x50 but a big list of excluded games .... And you have to do it in 24 hours.

I don’t think bonuses wagering requirements are that important beside that each and every bonus have a different rule that can be very high, impossible and limited. On the list we will have only the casinos with high wagering requirements for no bonus deposits . Don’t hesitate to share any crypto casino that you find with excessive terms of withdrawing.

Quote from: panjul07 on April 16, 2023, 09:07:32 AM

@OP Since you have livecasino in your list, maybe you can also add bitcasino because they are under the same management and as I can see the terms for this case is the same.

Thank you for your help, the list has been updated now and i will keep searching for more casinos. I hope that the team behind these casinos will make the terms of wagering clearer for us so that players can be certain that they will not encounter different rules every time they attempt to withdraw.
To be honest, it is very annoying whether you have made profits or lost a part of your deposit to be unable to withdraw without risking more.
Everyone here agrees on how bad these rules are so hopefully we will see a change soon.

This list will give an overview for new players to look at before they deposit to these casinos.
However, I noticed that a lot of popular and top casinos found in the forum is not on the list.
But it doesn't mean, you don't need to read their terms when it comes to withdrawal.
Always best to check their ToS especially on their deposit and withdrawal terms.
High wagering requirements usually will stop some players to play on the site, as we all know, before you even complete the half of it, your bankroll is already long gone.

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Quote from: sashapan on April 16, 2023, 08:29:32 AM

Here's another casino very overrated wagering, on first deposit bonus, first deposit bonus is 100%. wagering x50 but a big list of excluded games .... And you have to do it in 24 hours.

I don’t think bonuses wagering requirements are that important beside that each and every bonus have a different rule that can be very high, impossible and limited. On the list we will have only the casinos with high wagering requirements for no bonus deposits . Don’t hesitate to share any crypto casino that you find with excessive terms of withdrawing.

Quote from: panjul07 on April 16, 2023, 09:07:32 AM

@OP Since you have livecasino in your list, maybe you can also add bitcasino because they are under the same management and as I can see the terms for this case is the same.

Thank you for your help, the list has been updated now and i will keep searching for more casinos. I hope that the team behind these casinos will make the terms of wagering clearer for us so that players can be certain that they will not encounter different rules every time they attempt to withdraw.
To be honest, it is very annoying whether you have made profits or lost a part of your deposit to be unable to withdraw without risking more.
Everyone here agrees on how bad these rules are so hopefully we will see a change soon.

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Quote from: sashapan on April 16, 2023, 08:29:32 AM

Here's another casino very overrated wagering, on first deposit bonus, first deposit bonus is 100%. wagering x50 but a big list of excluded games .... And you have to do it in 24 hours.

This topic is not about wagering requirement for deposit bonus, it is for deposit without bonus.
Related to the casino you are referring to (wintomato), their wagering requirement for deposit without bonus is x2 as quoted below:

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9.2. There are no withdrawal obstacles if you roll over (wager) the deposit(or tipped amount) at least 2 time. Otherwise we are entitled to pause or deduct a 8% fee with minimum sum of 4 euro (or equivalent in your account currency) in order to combat money laundering.

@OP Since you have livecasino in your list, maybe you can also add bitcasino because they are under the same management and as I can see the terms for this case is the same.

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Here's another casino very overrated wagering, on first deposit bonus, first deposit bonus is 100%. wagering x50 but a big list of excluded games .... And you have to do it in 24 hours. https://wintomato.com/en/promotion/deposit_bonus

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 16, 2023, 04:58:03 AM

These silly promotions are a total waste of time and people should just opt out on joining these casinos. I have never won anything from the deposit bonus that these casinos offered me. Sad

Totally agreed. What a real sucker on this casinos that is worst than bonus wagering requirements is deposit wagering requirements has no way to forfeit in able for the deposit to be withdrawn without completing the requirements. Players are force to bet until the high wagering requirements met which we all know that mostly it will make players loss since all gambling games is designed to make players loss in the long run through house edge.

This thread open my eyes on this kind of trick which I’m not aware that exist aside from the regular x1 wagering requirements from the casino.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 16, 2023, 04:58:03 AM

I think people should not support any of the casinos that use tactics like this to lure people to their casinos. It is unethical in my opinion to create a false scenario where it looks like you are getting something for free, but you implement measures to get it all back. Roll Eyes

These silly promotions are a total waste of time and people should just opt out on joining these casinos. I have never won anything from the deposit bonus that these casinos offered me. Sad

Remember the casino doesn't want to lose, bro
From some of these problems, sometimes gamblers are lazy to take the welcome bonus or any bonus given by the casino and choose to go straight to the gambling table.
Because for some gamblers the bonus will only make the mind dizzy when they have to complete a very large total bet.
But sometimes what's annoying is when you don't take the bonus and want to withdraw funds you have to bet 5x the deposit amount, it's annoying.
Although not all casinos have a 5x withdrawal requirement but I will consider it more because I have had that experience.

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I think people should not support any of the casinos that use tactics like this to lure people to their casinos. It is unethical in my opinion to create a false scenario where it looks like you are getting something for free, but you implement measures to get it all back. Roll Eyes

These silly promotions are a total waste of time and people should just opt out on joining these casinos. I have never won anything from the deposit bonus that these casinos offered me. Sad

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this is a good list that can even be useful for beginners so that there are no more mistakes before they make a deposit and play, sometimes there are many cases where people cannot withdraw their money because they have not met the requirements as stated in this list. many are trapped due to ignorance, usually tempted by bonuses so most people are too hasty to make deposits without knowing the real casino requirements that are not listed on the website such as trapping
but I hope the OP adds some more to the list as a lot of casinos are active on this forum too.

As a gambler I also wanted to know more to test some casinos and maybe it can be useful also as a reference if someday a newbie in this forum is confused about this problem. i can point them to this thread. Wink

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on April 15, 2023, 12:01:41 AM

Is there a list of casinos out there that don't have any wagering requirements? Off the top of my head, only freebitco.in but I'm sure there are more.

Freebitco is simply not only a casino or in fact, it's not a casino. It was designed with many other features. If I'm correct, they act as bank and offer interest on the savings LOL. Therefore, you must not mess up freebitco with other traditional casino.
I can't remember if there's any single casino which offer no wagering requirements on no bonus deposit.

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Quote from: Johnyz on April 15, 2023, 04:07:30 PM

KYC serve its purpose for the good sites, and we know that fraud really exist in gambling.
Well, having a fixed wagering requirements can be a good one but that doesn’t mean your account can’t be audited or ask anymore. Most of the wagering requirements is not that high and easy to achieve, the site should make a clear rules with regards to this one and inform the players if there’s a changes.

For the good sites? What do you mean precisely? What do you call fraud in gambling exactly? Except through fixed matches which only concern sportsbooks I don't know what fraud you can commit at gambling. Yes it certainly doesn't mean your account can't be audited and more can be asked but it's very less likely to happen which such kind of requirement. I agree with you 5x it's not very high and easily achievable though.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on April 15, 2023, 03:48:22 PM

Quote from: Beparanf on April 15, 2023, 10:37:53 AM

Actually, there is no written wagering requirements on the ToS which only mean that they doesn't have any wagering requirements to withdraw. But ofc you will be suspected mixing if you withdraw immediately right after you deposit. Their x5 wagering requirements for suspected violating their AML policy through mixing is fair punishment and safety protocol to avoid crime under their nose.

The list should be plain standard wagering requirements and not including the special case if you want to make it a valid list for high wagering requirements.

I agree with you, a fixed wagering requirement in case of suspected misconduct is far safer for users than a scammy endless KYC that no one is able to pass. Unfortunately many unprofessional crypto casinos, including the biggest ones, don't hesitate to scam unwary customers by using the AML excuse to seize their funds. So this kind of rule is actually a good point for a casino IMO.

KYC serve its purpose for the good sites, and we know that fraud really exist in gambling.
Well, having a fixed wagering requirements can be a good one but that doesn’t mean your account can’t be audited or ask anymore. Most of the wagering requirements is not that high and easy to achieve, the site should make a clear rules with regards to this one and inform the players if there’s a changes.

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Quote from: Beparanf on April 15, 2023, 10:37:53 AM

Actually, there is no written wagering requirements on the ToS which only mean that they doesn't have any wagering requirements to withdraw. But ofc you will be suspected mixing if you withdraw immediately right after you deposit. Their x5 wagering requirements for suspected violating their AML policy through mixing is fair punishment and safety protocol to avoid crime under their nose.

The list should be plain standard wagering requirements and not including the special case if you want to make it a valid list for high wagering requirements.

I agree with you, a fixed wagering requirement in case of suspected misconduct is far safer for users than a scammy endless KYC that no one is able to pass. Unfortunately many unprofessional crypto casinos, including the biggest ones, don't hesitate to scam unwary customers by using the AML excuse to seize their funds. So this kind of rule is actually a good point for a casino IMO.

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Quote from: iv4n on April 15, 2023, 03:05:16 PM

You are right, many people are unaware of this particular term that some casinos have. And I am sure that some casinos don't have clear rules about this.
I never played in casinos from the list you provided, and to be honest, this is the first time I see that some casinos ask for more than x2 rollover for the deposited amount before withdrawing. X3 is crazy, and x10-x30 is unbelievable. It's some AML policy, and I guess some casinos need to compile some regulations, but this is ridiculous.

Nice share definitely. I will keep an eye on this thread... I don't wish to get trapped with my deposit and to be forced to wager some crazy amount just to be able to withdraw.

After knowing the hidden requirements for withdrawal then we never expected the casino to specify more than x3 to activate the withdrawal button, it's ridiculous that we only withdraw funds from our account balance but the casino arranges rules that are unfair to us, so hope every casino above should review again the rules above and better immediately revise for fair rules for gamblers.

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Quote from: GxSTxV on April 14, 2023, 12:56:05 PM

After reading many replies to my previous topic regarding wagering requirements for withdrawing a no-bonus deposit , I noticed that many people are not aware of certain casinos that impose what can be considered unfair terms. Based on the suggestions I received I have compiled a list of some casinos with high wagering requirements, which I will continue to update over time with your assistance. It is important to note that some casinos do not publicly disclose these rules clearly, and I had to contact their live support to obtain more and exact information.

You are right, many people are unaware of this particular term that some casinos have. And I am sure that some casinos don't have clear rules about this.
I never played in casinos from the list you provided, and to be honest, this is the first time I see that some casinos ask for more than x2 rollover for the deposited amount before withdrawing. X3 is crazy, and x10-x30 is unbelievable. It's some AML policy, and I guess some casinos need to compile some regulations, but this is ridiculous.

Nice share definitely. I will keep an eye on this thread... I don't wish to get trapped with my deposit and to be forced to wager some crazy amount just to be able to withdraw.

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Quote from: Solosanz on April 15, 2023, 05:23:42 AM

I'm surprised if Livecasino is still want to accept coin from mixer, most casinos usually return back the coin to original address or they will confiscate the funds and terminate the gambler's account. They should be have a reason why they accept it, because they're regulated casino and they need to being honest when the regulation become more strict.

I think that is not about receiving a deposit from mixer but rather the depositor make their platform as a mixer in order to clean the history of the coins deposited on the platform. But just like what the other reply here stated, this can be used as an excuse to prevent players from withdrawing their fund from the platform. But still it is a matter of debate because people who deposit funds in gambling platform to play doesn't mind the wagering requirement because they will meet them eventually while playing on the platform while those who wanted to mix their coins will always find this annoying. (though there are players that wanted to gamble a little then withdraw as soon as they get a good amount of profit)

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Quote from: erep on April 15, 2023, 02:27:24 PM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on April 15, 2023, 01:18:47 PM

So it's better to only add casinos with 2x wagering requirements and above, this would make a shorter and neater list, just make sure to arrange the casinos in descending order, that is from the lowest to the highest wagering requirement.

Good suggestion, the list of casinos can be arranged in descending order from lowest to highest for easy viewing of the high stakes list at each casino, the list of casinos for wagering x5-10 in my opinion is very unfair for service to new users and at least 1-2x the bet enough for the bonus withdrawal requirements, so the list of casinos above must update the wagering requirements for withdrawal, they must provide easy service for their users.

^Definitely right, we will wait for the update.
For a neater look, it should be separated the withdrawal and the bonus requirements and from the lower requirements to the highest requirements as suggested above. Another suggestion is, do not to include a casino that did not exist here in the forum, I think those actively promoting it here would be the best choice.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on April 15, 2023, 01:18:47 PM

So it's better to only add casinos with 2x wagering requirements and above, this would make a shorter and neater list, just make sure to arrange the casinos in descending order, that is from the lowest to the highest wagering requirement.

Good suggestion, the list of casinos can be arranged in descending order from lowest to highest for easy viewing of the high stakes list at each casino, the list of casinos for wagering x5-10 in my opinion is very unfair for service to new users and at least 1-2x the bet enough for the bonus withdrawal requirements, so the list of casinos above must update the wagering requirements for withdrawal, they must provide easy service for their users.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 14, 2023, 06:27:41 PM

Quote from: Hispo on April 14, 2023, 05:31:07 PM

This could certainly help gamblers around here to be more aware of the wagering terms of those casinos.

However, even of your objective is not to discourage anyone from gambling on those places, obviously this may do exactly that, whether that is your intention or not. Still you are not doing anything but reporting public information from their terms of services.
Just be careful to check those wagering requirements are completely factual because, I did not expect one of those casinos listed here to have such a strict policy on wager.

In the best case scenario this might help to keep a healthy competition among them.

I also support this information this will help players access casinos' wagering requirements as long as the information is factual and true there are players who are concerned about casinos' requirements and they check different casino requirements on wagering.
And with all the information you provided and will be provided more you will make things easy for them, although I have already given opinions on casinos requiring high wagering requirements I do not want to question them they have their reason and I believe they can justify it.
But lower wagering of casinos plus a good reputation is a good pick for gamblers.

Sure they have the reasons and are certainly things that their staff have consider both the advantages and the disadvantages. That is out of question, each casino owner is supposed to take the decision they believe to be more fit for their platform.

This thread is just an exercise of transparency so people can compare by their own how licensed casinos deal with money laundering and coin mixing using different approaches, beyond this thread and the comments of people, increasing or decreasing those wagering requirements are only in the power of the staff. This a open market after all.

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