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jr. member
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December 20, 2024, 06:49:58 AM
For Mullvad users who solely rely on the OpenVPN protocol like me, in a year's time [roughly], WireGuard will be the only protocol on Mullvad: Removing OpenVPN 15th January 2026
- Considering that I have to switch to another provider soon, I wonder if someone could also recommend a good VPN for online gaming (NordVPN was awful while Mullvad is somewhat okay).

wireguard is the superior protocol over OpenVPN.
much less lines of codebase make it more auditable to find bugs, its also faster and more modern.

OpenVPN has a huge codebase, its slow and clunky.
legendary
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December 06, 2024, 06:32:41 AM
Did anyone use the advantage of Black Friday deals? Was my thread and Black Friday deals links beneficial for you? Some websites had done it in a way that it was not possible to get info about Black Friday discount directly from their website.
I decided to try ProtonVPN with their Black Friday deals. A major difference from other providers that I tried is the number of servers available to choose from, though some of them were blocked by the websites that I visited regularly. I might switch back to Mullvad if the advantage isn't as big as I thought tho.

I think this thread is helpful to check out deals available if I'm too lazy to filter from the PR articles.
hero member
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December 02, 2024, 12:43:42 PM
That's very interesting, 100% cashback? Was it for 1 month or 1 year? 1 month is okay but if there was a cashback on 12 months, then there is definitely something wrong.
It's a year. I know they hope you'll keep paying afterwards, but I don't like it.
That's strange because it's not hard to find good VPN deals. One day Nord offers a free trial, then you use expressvpn, then cyberghost, then surfshark and the list goes on. So, that's strange to me but maybe they are very confident in their product. I can't talk about privacy of NordVPN but their speed is one of the best from my experience.

I must say I like the "no discount" approach. Giving a discount just means you're overcharging without the discount. If a company can give 30-50% discount, that just means they're charging too much without discount. And it means I don't want to buy from them without discount, which makes it an annoying business model. No discounts ever is a very transparent policy.
I agree with you, I like Mullvad's business model. No deals, no black fridays, no cyber mondays, no christmas, no new year, no inflation, 5 Euro is 5 Euro. VPNs are overcharging us and it's sad that there isn't a good competition between them for 1 month plans. There are only a few good companies that are exceptions.

I think your thread and recent post are helpful, but i already subscribe to certain VPN service.
Thank you, that's very nice to hear.


Guys, most of the deals are still active because there is a Cyber Monday. So, don't miss it (there are no affiliates in my link).
legendary
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December 01, 2024, 04:39:48 AM
It's expected Mullvad wouldn't offer Black Friday discount. After all, they always offer flat 5 EUR/month with 10% discount if you pay with cryptocurrency. Deal by Proton VPN isn't half bad either, although it's Proton Unlimited (where you also get email, drive and others) is better choice if you really trust Proton with all kinds of tasks.
I like Mullvad's and IVPN's approach but it would be really nice if there was a small discount during Black Friday, at least for a monthly plan

But on other hand, you don't have to worry whether you could get better deal if you're willing to wait and visit their website regularly.

but there is a thing that I don't like about Mullvad, they are centralizing privacy, i.e. Mullvad VPN, Mullvad Browser, Mullvad Search, maybe it's my wrong intuition but I think this is bad for privacy when you use three products of one provider. That's why I don't use Proton, they have so many services under their Proton hood that I do not find it safe.

I get the point, although you don't have to use all of their services. Besides, Mullvad Browser is just fork of Tor Browser, where they work together with Tor team.

Did anyone use the advantage of Black Friday deals? Was my thread and Black Friday deals links beneficial for you? Some websites had done it in a way that it was not possible to get info about Black Friday discount directly from their website.

I think your thread and recent post are helpful, but i already subscribe to certain VPN service.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
December 01, 2024, 04:19:51 AM
That's very interesting, 100% cashback? Was it for 1 month or 1 year? 1 month is okay but if there was a cashback on 12 months, then there is definitely something wrong.
It's a year. I know they hope you'll keep paying afterwards, but I don't like it.

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I like Mullvad's and IVPN's approach but it would be really nice if there was a small discount during Black Friday, at least for a monthly plan
I must say I like the "no discount" approach. Giving a discount just means you're overcharging without the discount. If a company can give 30-50% discount, that just means they're charging too much without discount. And it means I don't want to buy from them without discount, which makes it an annoying business model. No discounts ever is a very transparent policy.

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but there is a thing that I don't like about Mullvad, they are centralizing privacy, i.e. Mullvad VPN, Mullvad Browser, Mullvad Search, maybe it's my wrong intuition but I think this is bad for privacy when you use three products of one provider. That's why I don't use Proton, they have so many services under their Proton hood that I do not find it safe.
That's a bit like saying you don't buy a Honda car because they also make motorcycles and outboord engines. I use Mullvad, I use Proton. But I don't use all their services.
hero member
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November 30, 2024, 04:46:31 PM
I just saw bitrefill doing 50% cashback for NordVPN gift cards. Or is there a catch to the said cashback?
There's a Dutch (non-crypto) site doing 100% cashback for new NordVPN customers. I've never tried it, because Mullvad's "no discounts" sounds like a much better business model. I remember the Facebook expression: if I'm not paying for it, I'm the product being sold.
That's very interesting, 100% cashback? Was it for 1 month or 1 year? 1 month is okay but if there was a cashback on 12 months, then there is definitely something wrong.

It's expected Mullvad wouldn't offer Black Friday discount. After all, they always offer flat 5 EUR/month with 10% discount if you pay with cryptocurrency. Deal by Proton VPN isn't half bad either, although it's Proton Unlimited (where you also get email, drive and others) is better choice if you really trust Proton with all kinds of tasks.
I like Mullvad's and IVPN's approach but it would be really nice if there was a small discount during Black Friday, at least for a monthly plan but there is a thing that I don't like about Mullvad, they are centralizing privacy, i.e. Mullvad VPN, Mullvad Browser, Mullvad Search, maybe it's my wrong intuition but I think this is bad for privacy when you use three products of one provider. That's why I don't use Proton, they have so many services under their Proton hood that I do not find it safe.


Did anyone use the advantage of Black Friday deals? Was my thread and Black Friday deals links beneficial for you? Some websites had done it in a way that it was not possible to get info about Black Friday discount directly from their website.
legendary
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November 28, 2024, 03:46:20 AM
I think that if there is a black friday deal, it's already there and I don't expect a surprise from any company in 29 November, so it's fair to say that Mullvad and IVPN don't offer any Black Friday discount.

Proton VPN has a good discount, 1 year plan worth $35.88. This is the link of their Black Friday deal: protonvpn.com/blackfriday
Windscribe also has a nice offer, 1 year worth $29. For this Black Friday deal, visit: https://windscribe.com/upgrade?promo=FUCHYEAH

GhostVPN offers 2 years for $60, here is the link to the deal: https://www.cyberghostvpn.com/buy/cyberghost-vpn-3
ExpressVPN gives you additional 6 months free, so, 30 months plan costs 149,70 USD, link to the deal: https://www.expressvpn.com/order-deals-trial
NordVPN also offers you multiple plans, so check  the deal yourself: https://nordvpn.com/pricing/
Surfshark has multiple deals, so it's better to check plans yourself: https://surfshark.com/pricing

It's expected Mullvad wouldn't offer Black Friday discount. After all, they always offer flat 5 EUR/month with 10% discount if you pay with cryptocurrency. Deal by Proton VPN isn't half bad either, although it's Proton Unlimited (where you also get email, drive and others) is better choice if you really trust Proton with all kinds of tasks.
legendary
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November 27, 2024, 04:20:11 PM
I just saw bitrefill doing 50% cashback for NordVPN gift cards. Or is there a catch to the said cashback? I couldn't find anything from self-help articles and ToS, though.
I have seen nordVPN deals before and they should be legit with bitrefill, but I wouldn't trust blindly this vpn, they have been hacked in the past.
Not that I am suggesting anything, but I heard it's not that hard to get 30 days free trialk with the same service.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
November 27, 2024, 01:13:47 AM
I just saw bitrefill doing 50% cashback for NordVPN gift cards. Or is there a catch to the said cashback?
There's a Dutch (non-crypto) site doing 100% cashback for new NordVPN customers. I've never tried it, because Mullvad's "no discounts" sounds like a much better business model. I remember the Facebook expression: if I'm not paying for it, I'm the product being sold.
hero member
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yesssir! 🫡
November 26, 2024, 10:16:26 PM
I just saw bitrefill doing 50% cashback for NordVPN gift cards. Or is there a catch to the said cashback? I couldn't find anything from self-help articles and ToS, though.

The cashback can only be used to buy off of bitrefill ofc, so, promo takers must have something in mind to buy. I think this gift card is for the basic plan but with the exception of 6 devices instead of 10. For the 1 year plan, it's slightly cheaper at bitrefill but Nord offers an additional 3 months on their website.

Source: https://bitrefill.com/us/en/gift-cards/nordvpn-international/
legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
November 26, 2024, 04:05:23 PM
^^
I have taken NordVPN subscription for 2 years on last Black Friday, can't remember how much I paid for it. But I'm satisfied with itvso far.
VPN services probably is one of few remaining things which still has good deals on Black Friday, not some fake discounts. Though, many VPN providers have various promotions often and it's easy to get decent discount codes.
hero member
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November 26, 2024, 10:18:20 AM
I think that if there is a black friday deal, it's already there and I don't expect a surprise from any company in 29 November, so it's fair to say that Mullvad and IVPN don't offer any Black Friday discount.

Proton VPN has a good discount, 1 year plan worth $35.88. This is the link of their Black Friday deal: protonvpn.com/blackfriday
Windscribe also has a nice offer, 1 year worth $29. For this Black Friday deal, visit: https://windscribe.com/upgrade?promo=FUCHYEAH

GhostVPN offers 2 years for $60, here is the link to the deal: https://www.cyberghostvpn.com/buy/cyberghost-vpn-3
ExpressVPN gives you additional 6 months free, so, 30 months plan costs 149,70 USD, link to the deal: https://www.expressvpn.com/order-deals-trial
NordVPN also offers you multiple plans, so check  the deal yourself: https://nordvpn.com/pricing/
Surfshark has multiple deals, so it's better to check plans yourself: https://surfshark.com/pricing

As much as I hate to be the product, I tried this route but couldn't activate the free trials for both ExpressVPN & Surfshark since it required adding a payment method and I didn't want to do that... I'd put the gaming performance of Windscribe in between NordVPN and Mullvad while CyberGhost kept crashing for some reason.
You only add payment method in PlayStore and you have to cancel it before the payment time comes. You can try a virtual card or a card that expires in a few days or add a card and then block if you wish. As far as I know, VPN provider doesn't know which card you use before you pay.
legendary
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November 26, 2024, 03:57:48 AM
Was NordVPN really awful for you? From my experience, it's one of the fastest VPN.
It used to be my favorite, but a couple of years back I started experiencing a massive drop in its overall performance... Despite renewing my subscription for two more years at that time, I only used it for less than a month before I decided to go with Mullvad.
- Having said that, you might get away with it for slow-paced games, but that's not the case with FPS games.

A good alternative of Mullvad is IVPN because ... is open-source and also, for me, it's faster than Mullvad.
Thank you... I'll test it when my current subscription ends.

You can get a trial on every Non-Privacy Focused Mainstream VPNs if you want to test them for gaming. Just download them on your smartphone, then it will offer you a 7 day trial, create an account, activate a trial and then login with that account credentials in your PC.
As much as I hate to be the product, I tried this route but couldn't activate the free trials for both ExpressVPN & Surfshark since it required adding a payment method and I didn't want to do that... I'd put the gaming performance of Windscribe in between NordVPN and Mullvad while CyberGhost kept crashing for some reason.
hero member
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November 23, 2024, 07:29:09 AM
I checked Proton VPN and Nord VPN and it seems like they do have a Black Friday deal.
I'll update the thread on Monday and if there is a BOGO deal, I'll also update it early on Black Friday, 29 November.

You can get a 1-year plan for 40 euros for Proton VPN[1],

BTW, might be a dumb question but does anyone know how does the 1 year stack if there are still months left in your subscription? will the 1 year count start the moment you sub'd or from your previous subscription's end date?
I think you'll get some left months + one year.

I guess prices could be different? perhaps location matters too? In my case, I was seeing 35.88 EUR which I was able to change to 35.88 USD using the currency drop down menu so it's a bit cheaper lol. However, I couldn't find any crypto payment available 🤔
It's confusing and I don't understand why Proton VPN made payment option in such a stupid way. You have to sign up under the Free plan and then upgrade your plan from Dashboard, then you'll be able to pay with Bitcoin.
Here is the guide: https://protonvpn.com/support/vpn-bitcoin-payments


For Mullvad users who solely rely on the OpenVPN protocol like me, in a year's time [roughly], WireGuard will be the only protocol on Mullvad: Removing OpenVPN 15th January 2026
- Considering that I have to switch to another provider soon, I wonder if someone could also recommend a good VPN for online gaming (NordVPN was awful while Mullvad is somewhat okay).
Was NordVPN really awful for you? From my experience, it's one of the fastest VPN. A good alternative of Mullvad is IVPN because they offer Bitcoin, Monero, Cash and some other payment methods, also offer affordable prices, fund BTCPayserver project, is open-source and also, for me, it's faster than Mullvad.

You can get a trial on every Non-Privacy Focused Mainstream VPNs if you want to test them for gaming. Just download them on your smartphone, then it will offer you a 7 day trial, create an account, activate a trial and then login with that account credentials in your PC.
legendary
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November 23, 2024, 05:00:21 AM
For Mullvad users who solely rely on the OpenVPN protocol like me, in a year's time [roughly], WireGuard will be the only protocol on Mullvad: Removing OpenVPN 15th January 2026
- Considering that I have to switch to another provider soon, I wonder if someone could also recommend a good VPN for online gaming (NordVPN was awful while Mullvad is somewhat okay).
hero member
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yesssir! 🫡
November 23, 2024, 04:48:46 AM
Windscribe Black Friday Sale is also live at 29 bucks for 1 year, see: https://windscribe.com/blog/fuchsia-friday-deal-early-access/

Promo code:
Code:
FUCHYEAH

BTW, might be a dumb question but does anyone know how does the 1 year stack if there are still months left in your subscription? will the 1 year count start the moment you sub'd or from your previous subscription's end date?

You can get a 1-year plan for 40 euros for Proton VPN[1],

I guess prices could be different? perhaps location matters too? In my case, I was seeing 35.88 EUR which I was able to change to 35.88 USD using the currency drop down menu so it's a bit cheaper lol. However, I couldn't find any crypto payment available 🤔
legendary
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November 23, 2024, 12:28:30 AM
I'll also soon recheck the prices of listed VPN providers and also update this thread with Black Friday deals. I think that Mullvad and IVPN won't offer discounts but many Non-Privacy Focused Mainstream VPNs will offer good Black Friday deals.
I checked Proton VPN and Nord VPN and it seems like they do have a Black Friday deal. You can get a 1-year plan for 40 euros for Proton VPN[1], while you can get a 24-month plan for $122 at Nord VPN[2]. I feel like Nord's discount is pretty similar to their 2 year-package deal which happens quite often though, so not sure if this is a nice offer or not. I'm interested in buying Proton VPN but I still have a month of Mullvad, not sure if I'd switch just because of the discount.

[1] https://protonvpn.com/blackfriday
[2] https://nordvpn.com/black-friday/
legendary
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November 22, 2024, 02:35:19 PM
I'll also soon recheck the prices of listed VPN providers and also update this thread with Black Friday deals. I think that Mullvad and IVPN won't offer discounts but many Non-Privacy Focused Mainstream VPNs will offer good Black Friday deals.
Stay tuned for a news update.
It is very unlikely that IVPN or Mullvad will offer discounts as I am 99 % certain that they never did. Mullvad especially has kept their price - 5 € - the same ever since their inception in 2019.
legendary
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
November 21, 2024, 07:02:21 AM
If I had more smerits, I would send you them but at the moment I have only left 2, I am on budget.
Thank you very much for sharing that VPN, it looks very interesting and it is the first time for me to hear about them but it seems that they are an old VPN service provider because I found topics about them since 2014 (haven't dig much). Seems, they haven't changed their UI since the first day but their FAQ section and overall structure of information is very different from others. From quick view, it looks like this is a privacy focused VPN but they accept BitPay for crypto payments, c'mon.

Well... they also accept NOWpayments but I'll admit that's probably an even worse option than BitPay. They do accept Monero directly though, so you can just pay with that if you're truly paranoid (and if you are, you probably would be using XMR anyway, not Bitcoin).

I wonder how is the performance of that thing though. like is it fast, or what?
hero member
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November 19, 2024, 05:18:12 AM
I haven't noticed this before but today I checked IVPN and saw that they offer discounts for businesses and non-profit organizations. If someone here is from nonprofit, you can get IVPN Pro for $3 a month and if you are from a company that needs a VPN, IVPN offers Pro plan for $5-$9, depends on the number of members.

I'll also soon recheck the prices of listed VPN providers and also update this thread with Black Friday deals. I think that Mullvad and IVPN won't offer discounts but many Non-Privacy Focused Mainstream VPNs will offer good Black Friday deals.
Stay tuned for a news update.
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