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Quote from: LTU_btc on April 18, 2022, 02:27:51 PM

Today I was browsing one forum and accidentally noticed this website:
https://www.bitcoin-vpn.com/
It's huge list of VPN providers with Bitcoin and other crypto payment option, currently there 83 websites listed. I have never saw such big list of VPN services. There is also information which payment proccessor they're using. Offcourse, I can't vouch for every service listed there, but I think it's worth to check it out.

I can list hundreds of VPN service providers that accept Bitcoin and cryptocurrency payments but that's not my goal. I prefer quality over quantity.
What's more comfortable for you, a list of 100 VPN service providers where 90% are garbage and you struggle with which one to choose or a list of trusted and quality 10 VPN service providers where you can choose either one without regret?

The aim of my thread is to create a great list, the most trustworthy list. I'll be more than happy if people discuss VPN service providers and share their own experiences. I'm glad for these people who posted: RickDeckard's post, o_e_l_e_o's post, LoyceV's post, Rikafip's post. There were some other good posts posted by them.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on April 18, 2022, 02:27:51 PM

Today I was browsing one forum and accidentally noticed this website:
https://www.bitcoin-vpn.com/
It's huge list of VPN providers with Bitcoin and other crypto payment option, currently there 83 websites listed. I have never saw such big list of VPN services. There is also information which payment proccessor they're using. Offcourse, I can't vouch for every service listed there, but I think it's worth to check it out.

Thank you for mentioning my website, really worked hard to make this list

I will take care to check all listed providers again soon. Hope it helps to others to find their best provider.

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Quote from: ololajulo on April 19, 2022, 02:43:37 PM

Can we have names of VPN available for USA residents and for IOS phone?

I would suggest you to check Mullvad. Price is reasonable ($5 per month), it has good amount of available servers and speed is also very good. The best thing about it is that is very privacy oriented (probably the best one in that regard I tried so far) so if that is high on your priority list you should definitely check it out. And yeah it has iOS app, I tried it on iPad.

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Quote from: ololajulo on April 19, 2022, 02:43:37 PM

That's usually the length of your subscription. You usually get a discount if you pay for a year instead of every month. Or the difference can be a dedicated IP, more servers worldwide so more IPs to be behind, more devices to use the VPN, and stuff like that...

I have never seen a VPN not available for US residents so I would say all of them. If there is any not accepting the USA, a hand is probably enough to count them

For an app on IOS, I guess it's up to you to visit the service, we can't always put the spoon in your mouth

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what are the reasons for the price difference with the same VPN? what are the difference in services as well?
Can we have names of VPN available for USA residents and for IOS phone?

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The owner of that website made ANN thread at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-vpncom-a-huge-list-of-bitcoin-and-other-crypto-friendly-vpn-providers-5385027. And if you like such list, you also could check https://bitcoin-vps.com/ which list VPS, VPN and email service. You also can check it's discussion thread at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/massive-list-of-bitcoin-friendly-vps-vpnproviders-5214900.

I wasn't aware that he is on Bitcointalk, thanks. Great stuff, I already bookmarked both his websites on my browser.

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Today I was browsing one forum and accidentally noticed this website:
https://www.bitcoin-vpn.com/
It's huge list of VPN providers with Bitcoin and other crypto payment option, currently there 83 websites listed. I have never saw such big list of VPN services. There is also information which payment proccessor they're using. Offcourse, I can't vouch for every service listed there, but I think it's worth to check it out.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on March 27, 2022, 03:37:44 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on March 26, 2022, 03:58:38 PM

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Nord have just bought over SufShark, so they are now owned by the same company. The same company that got hacked, tried to cover it up, and then only admitted it to their users months later when they were exposed.

CyberGhost are owned by Kape, and should be avoided at all costs: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58547859

Windscribe are still largely closed source.

Yeah, I have even mention that before. Since your quoted my last post, I assume I forgot to edit the text.
It's correct now: The first one privacy-focused and the next three non-privacy-focused providers offer you this benefit: Windscribe, Surfshark, CyberGhost & NordVPN.

I also updated thread two days ago and added NordVPN and SurfShark because not all people are prioritizing privacy and some people simply want to unlock netflix and other platforms. But to make things clear, I put Non-Privacy Focused Mainstream VPNs title on them.

Oh, didn't know that news. If NordVPN bought SurfShark, then sure I'll move SurfShark into a non-privacy-focused VPNs list.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on March 28, 2022, 05:48:29 AM

I think that windscribe desktop application v2 and browser extension are open source, and you can use login credentials with open vpn.

Correct, but their mobile apps and router software are still closed source. I'm also not very confident in their security practices: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/07/vpn-servers-seized-by-ukrainian-authorities-werent-encrypted/. TL;DR, they did not encrypt some of their servers, and stored unencrypted private keys on these servers.

Quote from: dkbit98 on March 28, 2022, 05:48:29 AM

Do you by any chance have any list of open source vpn providers, I would love to check it out?
Last time I checked I think Mullvad and ProtonVPN claimed they are open source.

I don't I'm afraid, and I don't think such a list would be helpful, since there is far more that needs to be considering when picking a VPN than just if it appears on a list of open source ones. Doesn't matter if the VPN is open source if it collects all your data.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on March 27, 2022, 03:37:44 AM

Nord have just bought over SufShark, so they are now owned by the same company. The same company that got hacked, tried to cover it up, and then only admitted it to their users months later when they were exposed.

Hmmm thanks for this info.
I didn't know that connection between Nord and SurfShark, and I just wanted to test and see how SurfShark is working :/

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on March 27, 2022, 03:37:44 AM

Windscribe are still largely closed source.

I think that windscribe desktop application v2 and browser extension are open source, and you can use login credentials with open vpn.
Do you by any chance have any list of open source vpn providers, I would love to check it out?
Last time I checked I think Mullvad and ProtonVPN claimed they are open source.

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Quote from: LoyceV on March 27, 2022, 03:16:36 AM

Quote from: RickDeckard on March 26, 2022, 09:42:00 PM

Doesn't a dedicated IP dethrones the usage of VPN?

VPNs aren't only used for hiding Wink

A dedicated IP makes it easier to identify the same person is visiting the same website again. But if you want to gain access to something that isn't available to your own location (for instance to bet365 or Netflix), they'll know you use the same account anyway.

You're correct, I do know for a fact that certain services only accept the usage of VPN considering the fact that you share with them a dedicated IP. Otherwise they won't allow the usage of VPN (using shared IP's).

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on March 27, 2022, 03:37:44 AM

Depends on why you are using a VPN. A VPN will never provide anonymity, as you suggest. A dedicated IP is certainly worse than a shared IP in terms of privacy, though, since all your traffic can be linked together via that IP rather than "lost in the crowd" of different shared IPs.

Sorry, I misused the words - indeed a VPN doesn't offer anonymity (specially considering if you pay with fiat / direct from your bank account). What it does provide is privacy mostly related to what your ISP sees regarding your activity. Even so, I consider it a must in these days since I'm sure ISP make their best to sell whatever data they are able to extract from us...

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Quote from: Synchronice on March 26, 2022, 03:58:38 PM

-snip-

Nord have just bought over SufShark, so they are now owned by the same company. The same company that got hacked, tried to cover it up, and then only admitted it to their users months later when they were exposed.

CyberGhost are owned by Kape, and should be avoided at all costs: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58547859

Windscribe are still largely closed source.

Quote from: RickDeckard on March 26, 2022, 09:42:00 PM

Doesn't a dedicated IP dethrones the usage of VPN?

Depends on why you are using a VPN. A VPN will never provide anonymity, as you suggest. A dedicated IP is certainly worse than a shared IP in terms of privacy, though, since all your traffic can be linked together via that IP rather than "lost in the crowd" of different shared IPs.

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Quote from: RickDeckard on March 26, 2022, 09:42:00 PM

Doesn't a dedicated IP dethrones the usage of VPN?

VPNs aren't only used for hiding Wink

A dedicated IP makes it easier to identify the same person is visiting the same website again. But if you want to gain access to something that isn't available to your own location (for instance to bet365 or Netflix), they'll know you use the same account anyway.

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Quote from: Synchronice on March 26, 2022, 03:58:38 PM

Your option is to use a VPN with dedicated IP. These privacy-focused providers offer you this benefit: Windscribe, Surfshark, CyberGhost & NordVPN.

Doesn't a dedicated IP dethrones the usage of VPN? I might be saying something stupid but, to my eyes, if you have a dedicated IP attached to your VPN, how is that better than having a shared IP amongst many users that use the same service? I know that for some services you probably have to turn off VPN / split tunnel (like banks for example) but for anything else I would choose shared IP against a dedicated one, at least in what concerns to anonymity. Am I wrong? Windscribe seems to share my view since they state the following regarding "dedicated IPs":

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Are these IPs dedicated?

We do not offer dedicated IPs for privacy reasons. If we receive a request for subscriber information and a dedicated IP address is used, legally we cannot say we don’t know who the user is, since the IP belongs to a single Windscribe account. In order to avoid these potential privacy violations, we allocate a single IP address to a handful of customers, so your activity can still be “lost in the crowd”.

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Quote from: Rikafip on March 25, 2022, 12:07:33 PM

I tested it today and it seems like bet365 still blocks all Mullvad servers I tried to use, while some others like Sportsbet (which is banned in the country I am currently living in) works without any issues whatsoever. Either way, that's not an issue for me as as I am kinda old school guy and bet online only if I really have to.

Mullvad is a great choice for Cheap Anonimity and it's the only VPN I know that allows anonymous cash payments.
Some websites block VPNs but in order to unlock them, you need a dedicated IP but it has one negative side, dedicated IP belongs exclusively to you and probably 1-2 other users and your privacy can be easily violated if requested.

But if you only want to play on bet365 that shouldn't be a big issue.

Your option is to use a VPN with dedicated IP. The first one privacy-focused and the next three non-privacy focused providers offer you this benefit: Windscribe, Surfshark, CyberGhost & NordVPN.

Windscribe
1. Visit Windscribe and either choose Monthly Plan, Yearly Plan or Build A Plan.
The cheapest option is Build A Plan. You choose one favourite Location for $1 and unlimited unlimited data for another $1, totally = $2 a month.

2. Let's acquire Statistic IP. Click here to visit the page and then choose Datacenter - $24 / Year or Residential - $96 / Year connection. Residential avoids all blocking but probably in your case Datacenter will be enough too.

SurfShark
1. Visit SurfShark and choose any plan you wish. It doesn't offer dedicated IPs but offers Static Servers. Connect to the Static Server and your IP will stay the same on every session.

CyberGhost
1. Visit CyberGhost, choose any plan you wish and during the checkout include Dedicated IP in your cart.

NordVPN
1. Visit this Guide and follow the instructions.

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Quote from: Rikafip on March 24, 2022, 01:08:18 PM

True, it could be better, but since those speeds are more than enough for 4k HDR streaming (afaik 25-30 Mbps is enough) I am fine with it. Also, keep in mind that those were the speeds for US/Australia/Japan servers which are very far away from me.

Try checking settings in your VPN application and see if there is option to switch from UDP or TCP to faster IKEv2.
This should make everything work much faster, almost like your are not using any vpn.

Quote from: LoyceV on March 25, 2022, 03:46:29 AM

I've recently transfered large amounts of data between servers, and geographical distance matters a lot. If it's relatively close, I've seen 90 MB/s (almost the full 1000 Gbit/s), but if it's further away, it drops to around 7 MB/s.
You can probably determine if the VPN is the bottleneck by opening many connections (Torrent): if that reaches the maximum of your internet connection, the VPN can handle it.

Geographical location is most important thing but latency can sometimes be better in countries that are further away, maybe it depends on the quality of the servers and traffic they have at that moment.
It's good idea to check download and upload speed manually after selecting new vpn location, there are some dedicated websites for this purpose.

Quote from: Rikafip on March 25, 2022, 12:07:33 PM

I tested it today and it seems like bet365 still blocks all Mullvad servers I tried to use, while some others like Sportsbet (which is banned in the country I am currently living in) works without any issues whatsoever. Either way, that's not an issue for me as as I am kinda old school guy and bet online only if I really have to.

Maybe you placed some bet on OSCAR awards that are starting soon? Cheesy

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Quote from: RickDeckard on March 24, 2022, 05:42:08 PM

Understandable Rikafip, I'm sure you'll be very pleased! I don't know if you've noticed but Mullvad also offers the option for someone to pay with cash[1], which I found also interesting:

Yep, I saw it and I don't remember seeing that somewhere else and it's nice to see that even people who don't want to pay with crypto (or simply don't have it) can still keep their anonymity. Kudos to Mullvad, not many services would bother with that at this day and age.

Quote from: RickDeckard on March 24, 2022, 05:42:08 PM

So far the only service/website that actively blocked my Mullvad servers (and that also blocks IVPN ones) were gambling websites (specifically bet365.com). Not that I gamble - which I don't - but some friends of mine were looking for VPN's that allowed them to play in such houses and asked me to try it out with bad results. So if you're looking into those kind of options as well Rikafip I advice you to double check before jumping in as well.

I tested it today and it seems like bet365 still blocks all Mullvad servers I tried to use, while some others like Sportsbet (which is banned in the country I am currently living in) works without any issues whatsoever. Either way, that's not an issue for me as as I am kinda old school guy and bet online only if I really have to.

Quote from: LoyceV on March 25, 2022, 03:46:29 AM

I've recently transfered large amounts of data between servers, and geographical distance matters a lot. If it's relatively close, I've seen 90 MB/s (almost the full 1000 Gbit/s), but if it's further away, it drops to around 7 MB/s.

I know, and it was the reason why I tested speed with servers that were at the max distance for me, like Australia, New Zealand and West Coast of the United States. If those servers can handle 4k streaming (and they could) then those in Europe which I occasionally use should be even better. And they were when I tested them today.

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Quote from: Rikafip on March 24, 2022, 01:08:18 PM

True, it could be better, but since those speeds are more than enough for 4k HDR streaming (afaik 25-30 Mbps is enough) I am fine with it. Also, keep in mind that those were the speeds for US/Australia/Japan servers which are very far away from me.

I've recently transfered large amounts of data between servers, and geographical distance matters a lot. If it's relatively close, I've seen 90 MB/s (almost the full 1000 Gbit/s), but if it's further away, it drops to around 7 MB/s.
You can probably determine if the VPN is the bottleneck by opening many connections (Torrent): if that reaches the maximum of your internet connection, the VPN can handle it.

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Quote from: Rikafip on March 24, 2022, 04:59:09 AM

Quote from: RickDeckard on March 23, 2022, 05:00:05 PM

If you are able to, I would also recommend that you check out IVPN[5]. I know it has been discussed in this thread but I've also used them in the past and I enjoyed them as much as Mullvad. They've also got WireGuard implemented which is nice. Recently they've also been supporting Ukrainian refugees with free IVPN accounts[6] - as well to Russian oppressed population - which even though doesn't make them more "privacy" oriented, they could've just continued their operations as normal and do nothing to help with the current crisis.

For now I will give Mullvad a go, as looking at IVPN server status they have even less countries supported than Mullvad, and only half of what ProtonVPN has so I doubt it would be good choice for me, especially for streaming.

Understandable Rikafip, I'm sure you'll be very pleased! I don't know if you've noticed but Mullvad also offers the option for someone to pay with cash[1], which I found also interesting:

Quote from: Rikafip on March 24, 2022, 01:08:18 PM

Since Netlfix works good with Mullvad on all those servers that you mentioned (and many more), there's really no point for me testing that one as well. While you can find several VPNs that work good with Netflix, problems start when you want to get one that will work with several others streaming sites. Beside Netflix, I use Amazon, Apple+ and HBO Max and to find VPN that works reliably for all of those while having wide selection of server is very hard. Well, there's one, but it has it's own issues.

So far the only service/website that actively blocked my Mullvad servers (and that also blocks IVPN ones) were gambling websites (specifically bet365.com). Not that I gamble - which I don't - but some friends of mine were looking for VPN's that allowed them to play in such houses and asked me to try it out with bad results. So if you're looking into those kind of options as well Rikafip I advice you to double check before jumping in as well.

If you do intend to make a longer trial period of Mullvad, let us know how it goes! My VPN subscription is about to end and I may finally return to Mullvad

[1]https://mullvad.net/en/pricing/

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Quote from: dkbit98 on March 24, 2022, 07:05:14 AM

What is your normal internet speed without using any VPN?

I have 200/200. Fiber connection, so very low ping.

Quote from: dkbit98 on March 24, 2022, 07:05:14 AM

50-60 Mbps is not bad but it could be better especially if your normal speed is much higher than that, but it all depends from country you choose, latency, percentage of use for specific location and other factors.

True, it could be better, but since those speeds are more than enough for 4k HDR streaming (afaik 25-30 Mbps is enough) I am fine with it. Also, keep in mind that those were the speeds for US/Australia/Japan servers which are very far away from me.

Quote from: dkbit98 on March 24, 2022, 07:05:14 AM

I saw that windscribe is offering location that are specialized servers used for streaming and netflix, there are four of them in Canada, United States, United Kingdom and Japan.

Since Netlfix works good with Mullvad on all those servers that you mentioned (and many more), there's really no point for me testing that one as well. While you can find several VPNs that work good with Netflix, problems start when you want to get one that will work with several others streaming sites. Beside Netflix, I use Amazon, Apple+ and HBO Max and to find VPN that works reliably for all of those while having wide selection of server is very hard. Well, there's one, but it has it's own issues.

Quote from: dkbit98 on March 24, 2022, 07:05:14 AM

I wanted to try Surfshark that looks decent and they son't have any bandwidth limits or restrictions

Let me know if you check that one!

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