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Quote from: cabron on April 20, 2023, 01:32:06 PM

I have the same issue. It gets good in a few hours, I just have to prepare my coffee and back and then lose the next rounds. It's the opposite of what you expect when you get excited. I close my eyes and remember the advice to stop when you're winning.

Your mind always just has the set up that you can't stop when you know you still didn't recover the money from your previous loss. Hard to learn when you have read all the advice and recommendations over and over yet you have not followed the advice.

You really can't predict what will happen and it is just a proof that at anytime you won't stay on the profitable side. Actually in my experience it is just both. Probably, what the OP experienced is just a coincidence the difference I see between probably fair games and live casinos is that the live casino is slow paced than the provably fair games.

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Quote from: cafter on April 20, 2023, 02:36:27 AM

I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.

The only explanation is the house edge finally caught you, the longer you play that's the time that the house edge will catch you, it may catch you when you are starting to play, or after you made a profit, so if you're looking to make profit be sure you are not greedy to triple or make your bankroll ten times, once you made a profit and you start to lose don't think twice to withdraw you can always come back for another session

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and in provably fair once we lose more then 10% of balance then, then we start to revenge gambling to recover our loses, while recovering we are unable to think by waiting some times, we think like my profit is only one click away, then clicking and clicking then increasing bet size and blowing account.
I know this case is not for everyone, but in gambling most of players comes on that phase! we can not control and wait and think to recover that loss tomorrow because we can profit in just a one mouse click.

You can revert to manual betting and take your time if you think that you are losing your bets fast, you can be in control but once you set up the auto bet you have no control and the house edge will eventually catch you,

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Quote from: Weawant on April 22, 2023, 12:10:01 AM

Two mistakes gamblers make, first they don't play as fun but instead they want to make money quickly and they get pressure into making mistakes and they lose that particular bets, it doesn't matter whatever game they're playing. It could be live casino games or others.

Almost 80% of gamblers gamble to make money only 20% will gamble to have fun. This number may increase when you talk about online gambling. In physical gambling, you go out to gamble with friends but online gambling is just done to get some money in the comfort of your home.

Quote from: Weawant on April 22, 2023, 12:10:01 AM

Second, they don't stop when they're losing, instead they chase after their lost and want to make profits to cover up, they don't realized that when chasing losses they aren't playing with clear eyes and can get easily pressured to make the wrong bets in whatever games they're playing.

Revenge gambling or playing more and more in order to recover the loss, will give you more loss than profit. Gambling requires you to have a piece of mind before playing but if you are playing to recover your losses you will make more wrong decisions.

Quote from: Weawant on April 22, 2023, 12:10:01 AM

If you're losing just stop playing, and come back another day to continue playing. Gambling shouldn't be over done or you can get easily influenced and it turns into an addiction which could take a very long time to get over.

This advice has been given many times to quit gambling on both occasions if you are losing or winning. It will help you to stop more losses and in case of the wins, it will help you not to turn your winning amount into a loss.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on April 20, 2023, 02:22:02 PM

I think you are trying to compare Live casino over provably fair games as against your winning and losing experience and based on your post, it appears as if you are also part of your challenge likewise most gamblers experience. So while gambling in whatever form, you have to understand that you are up against your luck and emotions. By the way gambling is meant to be for fun Grin

don't put all your financial hope on it.

Two mistakes gamblers make, first they don't play as fun but instead they want to make money quickly and they get pressure into making mistakes and they lose that particular bets, it doesn't matter whatever game they're playing. It could be live casino games or others.

Second, they don't stop when they're losing, instead they chase after their lost and want to make profits to cover up, they don't realized that when chasing losses they aren't playing with clear eyes and can get easily pressured to make the wrong bets in whatever games they're playing.

If you're losing just stop playing, and come back another day to continue playing. Gambling shouldn't be over done or you can get easily influenced and it turns into an addiction which could take a very long time to get over.

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When you see green you can also try to rest it out for the whole day. There's only why you are staying, it's your greed to win more. It's a normal kind of emotion and I do that too but if you really want to be a winner on daily basis then discipline will help a lot.
IMO, there's this feeling like the casino is trying to get back whatever profits you made. When the system spots that your graph is going high then it will try to even it, the same goes when you are going deep. I've tested it a lot of times and it does happen.
There's also this event where you try to increase your bet by doing the martingale strategy, you keep on losing in a streak. I think their system can also notice those kinds of changes in your bets. But, when you put it back to your normal bets, it will put you on a winning streak. I don't think it's about luck or anything superstitious.

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Quote from: swogerino on April 21, 2023, 03:24:13 PM

Provably fair games are game of luck,the only thing there is that you know you have not been cheated in a spin for example as we have seen several people winning the max bet win and most casinos keep a sort of "wall of fame" where they keep the top 3 to top 10 biggest win in every slot machine which usually are provably fair ones.

I don't know in live casino games as I never play them,I prefer to play provably fair games like slot machines which are programmed to be making profit to the casino house yes but they are also programmed to give that max payout some times as long as they provide the profit to the house so I hope to be one of those lucky winners.

If people can win the maximum bet and the casino can pay the winning money to the winner, the casino, besides being proven fair, will also get a good reputation because they have sent the winning money when the winner wants to withdraw the winning money. This will only give the casino a good reputation, especially if the casino can send a large amount of winning money to the winners.

For me, slot games are gambling games that are proven fair even though I don't really know the truth. But I don't want to think too much about being proven fair or fraud because gambling is a way to have fun.

Quote from: goaldigger on April 21, 2023, 03:27:33 PM

Probably its not cheating for them as they are more focus on winning over the gamblers, and this has been their system. Live casinos are ok, but it is still not guaranteed your winnings so don’t expect that much. Roulette is a great game to play live, there’s indeed a time where you can think though if you see some irregularities with the site better to raise that concern so they can investigate and assure you about the fairness of the site.

It is a good idea to report any irregularities you experience to the support service so that the casino can address or fix them immediately. But maybe it's just our feelings that think too much about cheating or being proven fair. But if the casino would take our complaints and check them straight away to find out the truth, that would be great for the casino because the casino has taken care of its users.

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Quote from: cafter on April 20, 2023, 02:36:27 AM

I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.

and in provably fair once we lose more then 10% of balance then, then we start to revenge gambling to recover our loses, while recovering we are unable to think by waiting some times, we think like my profit is only one click away, then clicking and clicking then increasing bet size and blowing account.
I know this case is not for everyone, but in gambling most of players comes on that phase! we can not control and wait and think to recover that loss tomorrow because we can profit in just a one mouse click.

while in live casino, like playing roulette there is 15sec gap in every spin, in that 15sec i can think something, or sizing bets and close my gambling session for that day.
and also live casino's dealer is front of me i can see we are cheated or not, but i don't know if they use rigged roulette or not.

For most gamblers a live casino is probably the best chance they have of scoring a decent payout, at least in comparison to more algorithmically calculated systems like slot machines which have computer code that can manipulate play based on prior actions (even those by other players). You should always try to understand the percentage of a house edge that is involved in each game, because it will definitely help to keep you grounded if you are able to play in a more controlled manner.

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If you can't easily control your time gambling and you have the option to play in a brick-and-mortar casino or in an online casino, it is probably best for you to choose the former. At least you cannot stay there for long. For one, it has a closing time. Also, your cash will be drained, you need to go home, you can go hungry, and so on. Whereas in an online casino, you could spend all day and night long in front of your computer or smart phone at home, even while you're eating.

As far as fairness is concerned, in a provably fair casino you can confirm it yourself. In a brick-and-mortar casino that has a license, it is regularly audited for fairness. So, I guess both could be equally fair.

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Quote from: cafter on April 20, 2023, 02:36:27 AM

I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.

while in live casino, like playing roulette there is 15sec gap in every spin, in that 15sec i can think something, or sizing bets and close my gambling session for that day.
and also live casino's dealer is front of me i can see we are cheated or not, but i don't know if they use rigged roulette or not.

I've experienced that similar pattern as well back when I used to play a lot of casino games, i'd get a few good wins at the start then slowly prepare for the worse since losses mostly come after you win.

Most of the live casino games are round based and one of the good things is that you can always skip so you're not pressured to place a bet on the next round. The rigging in live casinos might be possible but I remember someone mentioned that their machines get inspected regularly.

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Quote from: cafter on April 20, 2023, 02:36:27 AM

while in live casino, like playing roulette there is 15sec gap in every spin, in that 15sec i can think something, or sizing bets and close my gambling session for that day.
and also live casino's dealer is front of me i can see we are cheated or not, but i don't know if they use rigged roulette or not.

While you have a time ? the problem is that do you have the luck? in gambling it is not the time that we are looking but for the luck that will seat together with us, so maybe some of your point is correct but in gambling ?the only thing that you will be assured is being a loser and that is the sad but reality mate.
expect things not to come with your dreams but of mostly differently .

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Quote from: cafter on April 20, 2023, 02:36:27 AM

I don't know why but i mostly lose on provably fair, when start betting then some times the graph stay green, after betting some more bets it become red and go straight down, draining my balance.

Rest assured that every casino player has ever questioned the fairness of the games.
This is a common practice for everyone who gambles regularly... start well and lose everything every time on specific occasions.

The tips I can give you are:

Vary your bets. If you're losing a lot of money on Monday, don't play that day.
Stop playing when you have a big bankroll. Wait a day or two, withdraw and start again with a small balance.
Choose other games. Do not play all your money in a specific game and if possible also use more than one casino.
Believe that everything depends on luck, and luck will always be against you most of the time, the culprit is not the betting sites.

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Quote from: Hispo on April 21, 2023, 05:43:31 PM

You are not supposed to go for "revenge", that is just an euphemism for chasing loses and most of the times we all know how that ends up for anyone.

If you feel that you may be struggling with self-control and it is more difficult for you to keep your budgets while playing probably fair games, I would advice you to stick to live games, since that may help you to have a bit of more time to analyze what you do and what you should do in order to quit or even withdraw some possible money you won.

If it goes too fast, then slow down. Whatever helps you to gamble responsibly it is okey and you are supposed to welcome it. Good luck. Wink

indeed, "revenge" is similar to chasing losses. there's no point on this if you are against with the casino. because of the house edge, you will likely end up losing to what you've got if you don't stop playing. this is the reason why casinos and gambling sites are lucrative business. at the end of the day, they are the winners on this business. if they are not earning, they will surely close down their business. but come to think of it, this business is one of the known profitable businesses in this market. and there's reason for such achieverment.

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Quote from: QueenVera on April 21, 2023, 03:47:10 PM

Truth be told that chasing after losses has never yielded any positive results but mostly end up leading to blowing of one's account, even same is similar with trading as well.
Most times we have to learn when to start and when not to stop and also know that revenge gambling is a very terrible technique that destroys all the effort one must have put into his work to earn profits.

Chasing losses sometimes enable a gambler to recover losses but oftentimes makes a gambler lose more. I do not believe that no one ever recovered from chasing losses. There maybe rare cases but it still makes the statistics not zero so saying that chasing after losses never yielded a positive result is not true.

Quote from: QueenVera on April 21, 2023, 03:47:10 PM

Provably fair games are fair and I can understand how you feel to have said that they aren't fair because no one who is making losses in a row will ever believe that the games are fair because they would want to see every reason why the games aren't fair because they already feel cheated.

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You are not supposed to go for "revenge", that is just an euphemism for chasing loses and most of the times we all know how that ends up for anyone.

If you feel that you may be struggling with self-control and it is more difficult for you to keep your budgets while playing probably fair games, I would advice you to stick to live games, since that may help you to have a bit of more time to analyze what you do and what you should do in order to quit or even withdraw some possible money you won.

If it goes too fast, then slow down. Whatever helps you to gamble responsibly it is okey and you are supposed to welcome it. Good luck. Wink

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Maybe, we are just having a huge winning expectation when we bet on live casinos but we can't actually win over it all the time. Maybe high expectations is our reason for having doubts and disappointments. I agree that if we think that we are being cheated on, we can file a complaint right away.
Live casinos isn't skilled-based games but your winnings will be based on your luck no matter what strategy you may apply so just be sure that you really know what you're doing so you won't end up getting upset.

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Truth be told that chasing after losses has never yielded any positive results but mostly end up leading to blowing of one's account, even same is similar with trading as well.
Most times we have to learn when to start and when not to stop and also know that revenge gambling is a very terrible technique that destroys all the effort one must have put into his work to earn profits.
Provably fair games are fair and I can understand how you feel to have said that they aren't fair because no one who is making losses in a row will ever believe that the games are fair because they would want to see every reason why the games aren't fair because they already feel cheated.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 21, 2023, 03:05:53 PM

No one is telling us to gamble so we should already know that casinos can easily cheat us without us knowing. And if we already know, we should also know what to do and if the casino really cheats on us, we can move to another casino.

Meanwhile, we also know that in gambling, we can get two outcomes: winning and losing. And if we have experienced defeat or victory, we still have two options: winning and losing. So we should have thought about whether we still want to play gambling or we have to stop gambling.

Probably its not cheating for them as they are more focus on winning over the gamblers, and this has been their system. Live casinos are ok, but it is still not guaranteed your winnings so don’t expect that much. Roulette is a great game to play live, there’s indeed a time where you can think though if you see some irregularities with the site better to raise that concern so they can investigate and assure you about the fairness of the site.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 21, 2023, 03:05:53 PM

No one is telling us to gamble so we should already know that casinos can easily cheat us without us knowing. And if we already know, we should also know what to do and if the casino really cheats on us, we can move to another casino.

Meanwhile, we also know that in gambling, we can get two outcomes: winning and losing. And if we have experienced defeat or victory, we still have two options: winning and losing. So we should have thought about whether we still want to play gambling or we have to stop gambling.

Provably fair games are game of luck,the only thing there is that you know you have not been cheated in a spin for example as we have seen several people winning the max bet win and most casinos keep a sort of "wall of fame" where they keep the top 3 to top 10 biggest win in every slot machine which usually are provably fair ones.

I don't know in live casino games as I never play them,I prefer to play provably fair games like slot machines which are programmed to be making profit to the casino house yes but they are also programmed to give that max payout some times as long as they provide the profit to the house so I hope to be one of those lucky winners.

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No one is telling us to gamble so we should already know that casinos can easily cheat us without us knowing. And if we already know, we should also know what to do and if the casino really cheats on us, we can move to another casino.

Meanwhile, we also know that in gambling, we can get two outcomes: winning and losing. And if we have experienced defeat or victory, we still have two options: winning and losing. So we should have thought about whether we still want to play gambling or we have to stop gambling.

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