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Topic: LiveMines.com-The Bitcoin Minesweeper No Reg No KYC-Fast & Easy - page 7. (Read 2578 times)

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LiveMines.com -- Don't hit the mines..
How to recover the account without registration?

We create an account for you automatically when click on "Start Playing" button. We provide you with a Random username and generate your unique URL gameID which you can see in URL. You should save the URL as it will get access to your account in case you want to open account on another device for now. Your account information is saved in cookies.

You also get an option to set a password on your account, anyone with your game URL must login with the password you have set.

If you get any trouble accessing your account, You can contact support OR email at [email protected] and expect reply as soon as possible. Your balance/account is never lost once created.

You just have to copy your URL to access your account from another device/browser.
newbie
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How to recover the account without registration?
copper member
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LiveMines.com -- Don't hit the mines..
Just dropping by to give my 2 cents.

Being a "Provably Fair" game means the player itself could "Prove" that the game session was not tampered in any way.
Let's digest how a game session works according to your help page

1. Before a game session starts
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Mine/s location is picked in random and in advance when you create a game. Mine/s Location is based on random_int generator function which picks the mine location from tile 1 - 25 in random.
I would assume random_int function it is referring to is https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.random-int.php

2. You generate a truely unique string and concatenate the result of no.1. example: 20-pHZ984WcwT1578416354 where 20 is the result of no.1 plus a "-" and "pHZ984WcwT1578416354" as your unique string.

3. Hash the concatenated string 20-pHZ984WcwT1578416354 via SHA256 which is "7b7373e545db76a277c85d4efc80675b8c32588a1484581ab8b07e0fc372b769" and shows this to the user to "prove" that the game session was not tampered.

4. At the end of the game, you reveal 20-pHZ984WcwT1578416354 so that users can hash it themselves and prove that the hash are the same as no.3.

5. Then starts all over again for every game session.

The implementation may look like solid, but it is not.

No. 1. The user cannot prove that random_int was indeed used in this step. The user just believes that it is, and this is where the flaw comes in.
You as the house, could pick any number that you would please and the user would never know. If a user has a tendency of always picking the 1st tile, the house could then choose the number 1 for the succeeding game sessions and the user would never know it.

Scenario:
A Whale is playing 3 mines. The house could easily be programmed to watch and analyze the player's "usual" picks, and the house could easily put the mines on those on the succeeding game sessions. This gives an advantage to the house, while the player would never know if he/she was cheated or not. (I'm not saying the op will)

Suggestion:
The mine locations should be generated using a server secret plus a client secret this way the house could not cheat or pick the tiles at their advantage.





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sr. member
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Just dropping by to give my 2 cents.

Being a "Provably Fair" game means the player itself could "Prove" that the game session was not tampered in any way.
Let's digest how a game session works according to your help page

1. Before a game session starts
Quote
Mine/s location is picked in random and in advance when you create a game. Mine/s Location is based on random_int generator function which picks the mine location from tile 1 - 25 in random.
I would assume random_int function it is referring to is https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.random-int.php

2. You generate a truely unique string and concatenate the result of no.1. example: 20-pHZ984WcwT1578416354 where 20 is the result of no.1 plus a "-" and "pHZ984WcwT1578416354" as your unique string.

3. Hash the concatenated string 20-pHZ984WcwT1578416354 via SHA256 which is "7b7373e545db76a277c85d4efc80675b8c32588a1484581ab8b07e0fc372b769" and shows this to the user to "prove" that the game session was not tampered.

4. At the end of the game, you reveal 20-pHZ984WcwT1578416354 so that users can hash it themselves and prove that the hash are the same as no.3.

5. Then starts all over again for every game session.

The implementation may look like solid, but it is not.

No. 1. The user cannot prove that random_int was indeed used in this step. The user just believes that it is, and this is where the flaw comes in.
You as the house, could pick any number that you would please and the user would never know. If a user has a tendency of always picking the 1st tile, the house could then choose the number 1 for the succeeding game sessions and the user would never know it.

Scenario:
A Whale is playing 3 mines. The house could easily be programmed to watch and analyze the player's "usual" picks, and the house could easily put the mines on those on the succeeding game sessions. This gives an advantage to the house, while the player would never know if he/she was cheated or not. (I'm not saying the op will)

Suggestion:
The mine locations should be generated using a server secret plus a client secret this way the house could not cheat or pick the tiles at their advantage.



copper member
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LiveMines.com -- Don't hit the mines..
Received the money back.

As promised, all my posts have been deleted.

I request to all people who replied to my posts, delete my text or delete the posts.

This situation has been resolved!

We thank you for your cooperation.
newbie
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Received the money back.

As promised, all my posts have been deleted.

I request to all people who replied to my posts, delete my text or delete the posts.

This situation has been resolved!
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Hello,

Your funds were never stolen from you. The fact we noticed the bug and erroneous play got us to terminate your account. We apologize for the inconvenience caused, but we can only release your deposit after 24 hours from the time you remove all your posts against us. Please try to cooperate with us. Sadly, we aren't at liberty to amend our terms more. We hope you will consider it.

Regards
Just pay him up at least the crowd or the public would know that you have given those money back even he post countless accusations it would be
still useless since the community do know that you already settled that one so you should better do that way.Dont worry about those post because if hes on the right mind he might remove those things willingly.
copper member
Activity: 123
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LiveMines.com -- Don't hit the mines..
Hello,

Your funds were never stolen from you. The fact we noticed the bug and erroneous play got us to terminate your account. We apologize for the inconvenience caused, but we can only release your deposit after 24 hours from the time you remove all your posts against us. Please try to cooperate with us. Sadly, we aren't at liberty to amend our terms more. We hope you will consider it.

Regards
copper member
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LiveMines.com -- Don't hit the mines..
As requested, here is the bitcoin address where the 0.02 BTC (my initial deposit) should be sent.

Bitcoin Address: 19gxBVcEzSX1S2H3pmGpwtYsqgsWTen1Zw

Once this Bitcoin address has 0.02 BTC i commit to delete all my posts as this situation as been solved.


We are ready to release your deposit once all posts have been deleted for at-least 24 hours. Please try to cooperate with us.
newbie
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As requested, here is the bitcoin address where the 0.02 BTC (my initial deposit) should be sent.

Bitcoin Address: 19gxBVcEzSX1S2H3pmGpwtYsqgsWTen1Zw

Once this Bitcoin address has 0.02 BTC i commit to delete all my posts as this situation as been solved.
copper member
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LiveMines.com -- Don't hit the mines..
UPDATE : We have decided to release the Initial deposit of the user above and terms have been sent to his E-mail.

Email contents as below :

 Greetings,

We hope this Email finds you well.

After considering the recent events, We have decided to rest our case in your favor and be lenient only this time.


We agree to release your Initial deposit to your Bitcoin Address.


In order for us to release the deposit, there are certain things which we require :

We need to understand exactly what happened with-in game and how were you able to bet more than you should have. We acknowledge that there was a bug and that caused the erroneous set backs. We have fixed the race condition on our site.
 
Please reply to us with a detailed information as to what happened during the game. "Error Messages", "In which browser were you playing the game", "Your IP address from which you had played", How were you able to bet more amount than your balance", "Will you be able to replicate the bug given demo credits?"


Please be as specific as you can in this case.


We also require you to remove all the posts regarding us effective immediately and remove all the offensive terms from your posts which includes but not limited to "scam", "thief" etc.


You will also not defame, or make any accusation against us in the future after the case has been resolved.

You will post your Bitcoin Address publicly on BitcoinTalk and we will send you your initial deposit after 24 hours of the aforesaid terms.

We apologize for the inconvenience it has caused, Please do understand the nature and risk of our business. We are bound by terms.

We will await your reply. We hope you will cooperate with us in order to serve you well.


Regards
-- Team LiveMines



We hope the user will cooperate with us in resolving his case.






We have sent you an Email to cooperate with us. We cannot help you unfortunately if you will not abide by our terms. We apologize for the inconvenience but sadly, it's the very best we could do.
copper member
Activity: 123
Merit: 3
LiveMines.com -- Don't hit the mines..
UPDATE : We have decided to release the Initial deposit of the user above and terms have been sent to his E-mail.

Email contents as below :

 Greetings,

We hope this Email finds you well.

After considering the recent events, We have decided to rest our case in your favor and be lenient only this time.


We agree to release your Initial deposit to your Bitcoin Address.


In order for us to release the deposit, there are certain things which we require :

We need to understand exactly what happened with-in game and how were you able to bet more than you should have. We acknowledge that there was a bug and that caused the erroneous set backs. We have fixed the race condition on our site.
 
Please reply to us with a detailed information as to what happened during the game. "Error Messages", "In which browser were you playing the game", "Your IP address from which you had played", How were you able to bet more amount than your balance", "Will you be able to replicate the bug given demo credits?"


Please be as specific as you can in this case.


We also require you to remove all the posts regarding us effective immediately and remove all the offensive terms from your posts which includes but not limited to "scam", "thief" etc.


You will also not defame, or make any accusation against us in the future after the case has been resolved.

You will post your Bitcoin Address publicly on BitcoinTalk and we will send you your initial deposit after 24 hours of the aforesaid terms.

We apologize for the inconvenience it has caused, Please do understand the nature and risk of our business. We are bound by terms.

We will await your reply. We hope you will cooperate with us in order to serve you well.


Regards
-- Team LiveMines



We hope the user will cooperate with us in resolving his case.






We have sent you an Email to cooperate with us. We cannot help you unfortunately if you will not abide by our terms. We apologize for the inconvenience but sadly, it's the very best we could do.
newbie
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Just came to give my 2 cents

I've just used this site as I saw it somewhere else and was very interested.

I've played a few practice games and no problems what so ever. Also the OP is very kind and whatever the above person is complaining about must be their fault (bit judgmental I know)
OP has put a lot of effort into this don't think he/she would find it beneficial to steal just some money and would've been called out by numerous more users.

I will definitely start playing here more when  I have extra money, my only point to make unless I am blind, is that I'd love a button to disable the on-site sounds.

Thank you

You don't need to create multi-accounts. I won't let you scam anymore.

You are pure joke and a low life thief!

You stole my money and now want me to apologize to you.

You can keep my money but i will make sure everyone knows about your scamming.

Also, talk to me like you talked in the emails Wink

Livemines.com is a SCAM!

SCAM REPORT: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-5214693



I'm not even a multi, I would provide some sort of proof if I could. I am a user of their site and found it advertised elsewhere. I came to do a good deed and show some good reputation. You're just some skid that tried to mess with the system and got smacked red handed.
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Tryed the game out , it's pretty good . Didn't find any problems/bugs . Would be really cool to see an automated betting feature included , like I would choose the 24 mines option , and have an auto mode to bet each time on the tile I select , for 10-20-30 runs etc.
I do not know if there are any of these features in the game mines and I'm curious how it works. Can you give me one of the game mines that has an auto bet feature?
newbie
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Have tried this game, a few days ago.
There are no problems during the game, the interface is good, certainly good as an alternative game with crypto deposits.
Overall, all working good.
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Tryed the game out , it's pretty good . Didn't find any problems/bugs . Would be really cool to see an automated betting feature included , like I would choose the 24 mines option , and have an auto mode to bet each time on the tile I select , for 10-20-30 runs etc.
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Username: arun
BTC Address: 3NesuSVBHyTW52iyid2idgJ6CoT9PShGsi

Review: Played a few practice games and had a good experience.
copper member
Activity: 123
Merit: 3
LiveMines.com -- Don't hit the mines..
UPDATE : We have decided to release the Initial deposit of the user above and terms have been sent to his E-mail.

Email contents as below :

 Greetings,

We hope this Email finds you well.

After considering the recent events, We have decided to rest our case in your favor and be lenient only this time.


We agree to release your Initial deposit to your Bitcoin Address.


In order for us to release the deposit, there are certain things which we require :

We need to understand exactly what happened with-in game and how were you able to bet more than you should have. We acknowledge that there was a bug and that caused the erroneous set backs. We have fixed the race condition on our site.
 
Please reply to us with a detailed information as to what happened during the game. "Error Messages", "In which browser were you playing the game", "Your IP address from which you had played", How were you able to bet more amount than your balance", "Will you be able to replicate the bug given demo credits?"


Please be as specific as you can in this case.


We also require you to remove all the posts regarding us effective immediately and remove all the offensive terms from your posts which includes but not limited to "scam", "thief" etc.


You will also not defame, or make any accusation against us in the future after the case has been resolved.

You will post your Bitcoin Address publicly on BitcoinTalk and we will send you your initial deposit after 24 hours of the aforesaid terms.

We apologize for the inconvenience it has caused, Please do understand the nature and risk of our business. We are bound by terms.

We will await your reply. We hope you will cooperate with us in order to serve you well.


Regards
-- Team LiveMines



We hope the user will cooperate with us in resolving his case.



newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
Just came to give my 2 cents

I've just used this site as I saw it somewhere else and was very interested.

I've played a few practice games and no problems what so ever. Also the OP is very kind and whatever the above person is complaining about must be their fault (bit judgmental I know)
OP has put a lot of effort into this don't think he/she would find it beneficial to steal just some money and would've been called out by numerous more users.

I will definitely start playing here more when  I have extra money, my only point to make unless I am blind, is that I'd love a button to disable the on-site sounds.

Thank you
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