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Quote from: beerlover on January 06, 2020, 12:51:56 PM

When you have a website topic mainly with the accusation of being a scam, that hurts their reputation insanely, I know it is just 3-4 pages right now and that can be forgiven in the future if there are no more troubles in the future but for now they already have a huge damage on their name because of this issue.

If I were them I wouldn't back down anymore, if they had an issue and paid to shut the person up so they can continue that would have worked but this has gone too far and I doubt they could ever recover from this so might as well keep his money with it as an expense to how much damage the person did to their website. From now on all they can do is to increase marketing and banning all messages regarding this issue and just focus on getting bigger.

We have provided all the necessary evidence in relation to the user's scam accusation on us. The race attack vulnerability cannot be exploited by playing game in 2 tabs or more than 20+ if done manually.

Anybody who is experienced in WebSec industry can acknowledge our above statement. Even we had hard time replicating the bug and had to bring in a reliable penetration tester to replicate. We invested our time as well as resources in order to track it.

We didn't have any bugs as the user claims, Our Team regularly monitors the system error logs/warnings/notices on the server end.

We have processed Withdrawals / Deposits with no issues before and after the user accused us of scamming him.

We provided more than 3 chances to the user to claim his deposit by admitting to his actions in full with steps as how he replicated on his part and an apology.

IF the user doesn't abide with our aforesaid terms to claim his deposits, The Administrators or Moderators can intervene.

We, as LiveMines have faced a mark on our reputation due to the actions of the underlying user. All we can do now is to server our users as best as we can.

We will be doing our best to restore faith and positivism in us. Good luck to everyone reading this post.

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When you have a website topic mainly with the accusation of being a scam, that hurts their reputation insanely, I know it is just 3-4 pages right now and that can be forgiven in the future if there are no more troubles in the future but for now they already have a huge damage on their name because of this issue.

If I were them I wouldn't back down anymore, if they had an issue and paid to shut the person up so they can continue that would have worked but this has gone too far and I doubt they could ever recover from this so might as well keep his money with it as an expense to how much damage the person did to their website. From now on all they can do is to increase marketing and banning all messages regarding this issue and just focus on getting bigger.

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We are willing to release your deposit ONLY if you Email us at [email protected] with the terms we specified earlier in the thread.

We suggest you to read our terms again at : www.Livemines.com/terms.php as to why your account is banned from our site. We have posted evidence in your scam accusation thread.

We will not tolerate cheaters like you and take strict action against users like you.

Site is operational and we will be releasing promotional offers very soon.

-- Team Live Mines.

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Quote from: safari88 on January 05, 2020, 10:46:48 PM

I'm confused after see his bet history and based he said that he just deposit 0.02 BTC but why in the few bets without getting any profit he can bet more than that

That was the one that makes the site accuse the user abusing the bug.
So in short, there was a bug where user was able to bet more than what he had in the balance.
I'm not really sure if the user was indeed trying to abuse the bug for his own profit, but it seems so as he did make the bet more than once.
If he is good user, he would have stopped after he realized that he could bet more than his balance then reported it to the admin.
By this way, I think above user will get something like a bug bounty.

Hopefully this report of the user will be proven legit and had no foul play accusations. In this case, I think this was due to probability that the site's issue was with their web problem and nothing to blame with the user. That's if ever there's a chance for a bug bounty, its very advantage for him. The reputation of the site will increase, yet other player will be more attracted to play on their site because of their prompt support on respective users.

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Change log UPDATE 06/01/2020 :

Recent games are now updated on the go
Code optimization
-- Implemented Price converter.

Your balance will be displayed in USD Price automatically every 10 seconds. You don't have to visit any external website to check your balance value anymore.

Play now at : www.LiveMines.com

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Quote from: Ranly123 on January 06, 2020, 04:29:01 AM

I suggest you open up bounty campaign for this site. For me, it looks interesting and maybe if it will be fully promoted in this site more users will sign up in your site.

Thank you for your valuable suggestion. It does mean a lot to us.
We will be launching Bounty Campaigns and several promotions on this forum in near future.

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I suggest you open up bounty campaign for this site. For me, it looks interesting and maybe if it will be fully promoted in this site more users will sign up in your site.

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Change log 06/01/2020 :

Recent games are now updated on the go
Code optimization

Play now at : www.LiveMines.com

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Quote from: safari88 on January 05, 2020, 10:46:48 PM

I'm confused after see his bet history and based he said that he just deposit 0.02 BTC but why in the few bets without getting any profit he can bet more than that

That was the one that makes the site accuse the user abusing the bug.
So in short, there was a bug where user was able to bet more than what he had in the balance.
I'm not really sure if the user was indeed trying to abuse the bug for his own profit, but it seems so as he did make the bet more than once.
If he is good user, he would have stopped after he realized that he could bet more than his balance then reported it to the admin.
By this way, I think above user will get something like a bug bounty.

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Quote from: Bitinity on January 05, 2020, 07:42:12 PM

Can you explain how could you bet more than what you have on your balance? Dont say that you did not notice it. It is better if you tell the truth and apologize for what you did as you should have reported it once you noticed it instead of keep doing it.

I'm confused after see his bet history and based he said that he just deposit 0.02 BTC but why in the few bets without getting any profit he can bet more than that

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Quote from: Bitinity on January 05, 2020, 07:42:12 PM

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This thief is metally retarded.

I said that i don't know what the fuck happened! As i said in the emails, i was just playing in multiple tabs only and the betting was full of bugs. How thats my fault?

I did not abuse the game and i don't have any programmation knowlegde to give explanations of what happened.

You are just a low life thief that stole my deposit.

Livemines.com is a SCAM!

Can you explain how could you bet more than what you have on your balance? Dont say that you did not notice it. It is better if you tell the truth and apologize for what you did as you should have reported it once you noticed it instead of keep doing it.

I don't know the whole story behind the scam accusation and how did the bug happen
but it says in TOS they can close an account if a player quote: "abuse bug(s) or indulge in unfair betting practices"

well I would have settled it differently , but admin has the right to decide what is good for his business and site
p.s. and yes , the user should have reported the bug and gotten the bug bounty instead

p.p.s seems like the situation has been resolved , editing the post to reflect it

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This thief is metally retarded.

I said that i don't know what the fuck happened! As i said in the emails, i was just playing in multiple tabs only and the betting was full of bugs. How thats my fault?

I did not abuse the game and i don't have any programmation knowlegde to give explanations of what happened.

You are just a low life thief that stole my deposit.

Livemines.com is a SCAM!

Can you explain how could you bet more than what you have on your balance? Dont say that you did not notice it. It is better if you tell the truth and apologize for what you did as you should have reported it once you noticed it instead of keep doing it.

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Quote from: LiveMines on January 05, 2020, 01:16:11 PM

Quote from: dunfida on January 05, 2020, 08:55:12 AM

It would be better if Site owner would just simply give his initial deposit and moved on to this issue just like whats being said on previous page.He do risk up his sites reputation yet this was on site bug after all.Instead on locking the deposit+winning it would be more good if he do rather add up some bounty bug on it.The main issue between parties is "PRIDE",Why not just settle things up?
@OP, sad to say that this one will give out bad impressions if this would continue.

We are and were ready to settle but with conditions mentioned. As to the bug on site, There was a race condition in our site as we already had explained in the thread.

You can read the details regarding race condition here : https://cwe.mitre.org/data/definitions/362.html

We would have paid up a bounty to the user if he had told us exactly how he was able to do so in my E-mail. Yet he chose to ignore that.

It is clear in our website as to we can terminate the account along with balance if the user is caught up in unfair practices. We have already publicized his games here : https://livemines.com/history.php?user=ringo362

We are new in business but we are strict against unfair practices and condemn cheating.

The user has already done enough damage to our reputation, In our last post we clearly mentioned our conditions as to release his funds. We will not amend the conditions anymore.
The user has 24 hours to contact us with aforesaid conditions completed.
After that,
We are willing to release the deposit to site-administrators or moderator and let them be the judge of his actions on our behalf. It is really saddening for us as to have encountered this issue with the user.

We will not respond to any more queries regarding this incident.

Players can either be honest or would just simply abuse if they found out bugs towards the site which make them some money.I cant blame towards your action even I in the same foot would do the same
but you do actually have some fault in terms of communicating towards that certain user.Yes, it is somehow rude when reading up those response which turns out that you do blame up the user on sites bug.
Good thing that you had explained and give him a chance to settle it.@BTCneedhelp1 why not just move on and accept on what they do offer? to call it quits.

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Quote from: dunfida on January 05, 2020, 08:55:12 AM

It would be better if Site owner would just simply give his initial deposit and moved on to this issue just like whats being said on previous page.He do risk up his sites reputation yet this was on site bug after all.Instead on locking the deposit+winning it would be more good if he do rather add up some bounty bug on it.The main issue between parties is "PRIDE",Why not just settle things up?
@OP, sad to say that this one will give out bad impressions if this would continue.

We are and were ready to settle but with conditions mentioned. As to the bug on site, There was a race condition in our site as we already had explained in the thread.

You can read the details regarding race condition here : https://cwe.mitre.org/data/definitions/362.html

We would have paid up a bounty to the user if he had told us exactly how he was able to do so in my E-mail. Yet he chose to ignore that.

It is clear in our website as to we can terminate the account along with balance if the user is caught up in unfair practices. We have already publicized his games here : https://livemines.com/history.php?user=ringo362

We are new in business but we are strict against unfair practices and condemn cheating.

The user has already done enough damage to our reputation, In our last post we clearly mentioned our conditions as to release his funds. We will not amend the conditions anymore.
The user has 24 hours to contact us with aforesaid conditions completed.
After that,
We are willing to release the deposit to site-administrators or moderator and let them be the judge of his actions on our behalf. It is really saddening for us as to have encountered this issue with the user.

We will not respond to any more queries regarding this incident.

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It would be better if Site owner would just simply give his initial deposit and moved on to this issue just like whats being said on previous page.He do risk up his sites reputation yet this was on site bug after all.Instead on locking the deposit+winning it would be more good if he do rather add up some bounty bug on it.The main issue between parties is "PRIDE",Why not just settle things up?
@OP, sad to say that this one will give out bad impressions if this would continue.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on January 04, 2020, 05:38:37 PM

Quote from: LiveMines on January 04, 2020, 09:20:34 AM

Change log :

Major Update includes bug fixing with security patch.

Features Added :

Users can now see their games history and share the history with other players with an option to hide history from the public.

Our systems are up and running. We were susceptible by Race Condition vulnerability, We have mitigated the attack in our current update. It came to our attention when a user took advantage of this bug and was going to withdraw his false earnings. Fortunately, We were able to detect it and have closed the user as per our terms.

You can read our Terms here at : www.LiveMines.com/terms.php

We always believe in fair play and strictly condemn cheating and unfair practices.

Please report us at [email protected] if you have found a bug and we will suitably reward you for your responsible submission. If you are found taking advantage of the bug, we have the right to close your account pending all deposits/withdrawals/balances per our terms.

I think to be fair on both sides, just send him his original deposit and move on.
That's all he is asking from his scam accusations board.
Though he might violated some of your terms but it was not all his fault if there was some bug in your system.
You have your shortcomings coming from your end also.
The small deposit that he's asking should not give negative notion on how you handle your cases here.

We are ready to release his deposit IF he formally apologize to us within 24 hours, Remove his SCAM accusations and posts related to us, accept his doings and tell us how he replicated the bug. (We want to listen to him doing it)
I gave him a chance earlier to come through clean, I will give him this very last chance.
Like, I said in the Email to him also, I will risk my all reputation and money to stand against people like him.

I won't be able to do anything more after this. He has 24 hours from January 05, 2020, 06:17:44 PM Site time.

-- Administrator

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Quote from: LiveMines on January 04, 2020, 09:20:34 AM

Change log :

Major Update includes bug fixing with security patch.

Features Added :

Users can now see their games history and share the history with other players with an option to hide history from the public.

Our systems are up and running. We were susceptible by Race Condition vulnerability, We have mitigated the attack in our current update. It came to our attention when a user took advantage of this bug and was going to withdraw his false earnings. Fortunately, We were able to detect it and have closed the user as per our terms.

You can read our Terms here at : www.LiveMines.com/terms.php

We always believe in fair play and strictly condemn cheating and unfair practices.

Please report us at [email protected] if you have found a bug and we will suitably reward you for your responsible submission. If you are found taking advantage of the bug, we have the right to close your account pending all deposits/withdrawals/balances per our terms.

I think to be fair on both sides, just send him his original deposit and move on.
That's all he is asking from his scam accusations board.
Though he might violated some of your terms but it was not all his fault if there was some bug in your system.
You have your shortcomings coming from your end also.
The small deposit that he's asking should not give negative notion on how you handle your cases here.

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Change log :

Major Update includes bug fixing with security patch.

Features Added :

Users can now see their games history and share the history with other players with an option to hide history from the public.

Our systems are up and running. We were susceptible by Race Condition vulnerability, We have mitigated the attack in our current update. It came to our attention when a user took advantage of this bug and was going to withdraw his false earnings. Fortunately, We were able to detect it and have closed the user as per our terms.

You can read our Terms here at : www.LiveMines.com/terms.php

We always believe in fair play and strictly condemn cheating and unfair practices.

Please report us at [email protected] if you have found a bug and we will suitably reward you for your responsible submission. If you are found taking advantage of the bug, we have the right to close your account pending all deposits/withdrawals/balances per our terms.

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Update : We have closed the website for unscheduled maintenance as the user who posted above was able to abuse one of the bugs in the site and practiced unfair means.

We will resume our operations shortly after investigating.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Hello,

I deposited 0.02 BTC and got to ~0.033 BTC. Tried to withdraw and it said it was being processed manual, its not instant as you said :/ . Also, i still have 0.013 BTC on the account and when i try to withdraw says it need the deposit to have 3 confirmations when it has over 6 confirmations.

Can you check it please?

Thank you!

We are really sorry for that happened.

Can you please personnel message me or write to [email protected] so that we can investigate this issue at utmost priority. Do include your account name.

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