Topic: Loan Defaulted [SiNeReiNZzz] (Read 1036 times)

Of course he only contacted you because I just confronted him yesterday. After months/1 year of silence.

And it is 100% sinereinzzz that I spoke to at stake, so "there is something wrong with him" sounds a little off. When confronted he could have said something about a "brother". He didn't.

He had all the chances to make a new account and write here if he didn't get into his original one. Also he never replied at several outlets like telegram, stake forum, twitter and so on.

But if you believe him, I hope you are getting paid! I will not discuss this anymore here, as you wish.

About being muted at stake. No I am still muted. I made an "appeal thread" in stake forum but it's unanswered.

Edit: Shasan you wrote: "He might have many more accounts or not but based on the conversation it is not possible for him to log into the account and view our posts."

Though, "they" are 100% reading here because as you can see in the 2nd picture, in chat, he called me by my bitcointalk name, my stake name is totally different. How would I know my bitcointalk name if he didn't see this thread and my post?

If it’s actually true and he really got some problem I will apologize to him for calling him out.

Update 1:
Yesterday I received a message from the telegram account of SiNeReiNZzz by his brother and came to know that there is something wrong with him which I do not want to disclose here he might be able to disclose within a short time it might be within few weeks/months.

Update 2:
I was informed that the brother of SiNeReiNZzz will send 0.005 bitcoin and the rest will be done later. I have already received that. I wanted to post yesterday but I wanted to see first whether that is true or not. But hopefully, think SiNeReiNZzz or his brother will repay the rest and will post an update on the forum.

Request from me:
I want to request the community not to discuss this anymore for now until we receive any confirmation from SiNeReiNZzz or his brother about the absence and details of the payment/repayment schedule.

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I have not discussed it but I think that is not him but it is his brother and don't know the reason for refusing. Have you been unmuted if not then please create a post on the stakes thread from where I think we may get a good result. Also there is a little chance the account is not operating by the same person of the forum.

As the person who logged into the account stake did not log into the forum.
Everything might be changed if the account holder came here and post an update.

He might have many more accounts or not but based on the conversation it is not possible for him to log into the account and view our posts.

You are right but I don't think it is a valid reason for the mute. But it is okay if the muted happened by bot. But if by a moderator then it is not good.

I am sorry to hear that you were muted. The moderator could have listened to you. But, every casino platform chat has rules and maybe this matter is irrelevant there. The moderator could delete the message and ask you not to post something like that. But, I don't see it as an offense that may lead you to get banned from chat.

The shitty thing was his answer. He said he doesn't owe anything. WTF? So, why doesn't he write that here in the forum? Maybe he doesn't care about the forum account anymore since its reputation is already ruined. I guess the same as you. Maybe he has multiple accounts.

If the stake Moderator banned you just for the reason you explained, they will ban Sashan as well if he asks that guy about the loan. This does not happen within their platform. Moreover, they often say that if you get scammed by someone, the platform cannot do anything. So, deal with the people you trust and at your own risk.

Yes, stupid to waste such an account. He could have made much more $ with signature campaigns over time.

I guess he still has another account here an is reading because he just mentioned my name in stake chat for whatever reason and without talking to anybody.

That is very bad of him. He has damaged his hustle in the forum by spoiling his legendary account and end it in this way. This is bad news from him. When he has known that he could not pay the funds at once then he would have discussed with you Shasan to repay it with installmental, that is paying it with bits and if it is weekly or monthly would have been better. What SiNeReiNZzz is very bad. From the action he took by refusing to respond to your chat your PM's shows that he is a pure scammer which nobody should have dealing with him. That is a very bad character he has displayed here. For the Legendary account sake he wouldn't do it.

I wonder why don't he say the same here LOL

Stake have their own forum. If you can create a topic about it may be you will be able to get your ban removed from the chat. It's such a shame that members deny a wrongdoing they did.

Dirty guy sinereinzzz just was in stake chat and I confronted him about his loan.

And as a result I was muted by the mod, what a joke.

His text translates to:

"lol, and you know about the circumstances? I don't owe anything. And there is no reason to explain this here"



After that I got muted by the ridiculous German wannebe mod.
Some guys asked him about it and wanted to know more but since I can't reply and he said it's a lie that's all I could find out.

Wrote Shasan on TG so maybe he can join the chat but he was offline.

In our local board, reports came up that SiNeReiNZzz had been active on Stake (a Casino site) last year as well and talked to at least one member.

He should, for sure. He could have saved himself from so much trouble. 0.01 BTC is barely nothing to ruin his account.
4 weeks of signature campaigns would have re-paid that amount for sure.

Exactly! And shasan would have waited for sure... shasan has been very generous already as his payback date was postponed multiple times...
It's really hard to understand why SiNeReiNZzz made that stupid decision...

I totally understand. It's normal that under some circumstances a borrower can find himself unable to repay a loan on the due date but the least he has to do is to contact the lender and explain his situation and ask for an extension. But if he suddenly goes dark, although being active on other platforms, then I don't know how you can explain/accept it! Sorry, but in this case a red tag is totally justified.

Some members found that he was active on Twitter and Telegram. That means he is active everywhere except the forum. Maybe he doesn't want to think about how stupid this decision is.
On the other hand if we think that he is in a serious problem and having trouble repaying this loan, then he could have been active and asked @shasan for some more time to repay the loan, instead of being inactive like this.

@shasan sorry for your loss, don't know if you will get this money back or not.

Thank you for informing us. It's really sad that SiNeReiNZzz breaks his account like that. I'm assuming he'll never come back. But worse is that shasan lost his money through this scam. I really feel sorry for him. He didn't deserve that. 

It might be. But I think this should not be a big deal as there must have neutral trust in me while lending. A lender and/or trader of reversible payment should be aware of the neutral trust and risk of the transaction (loan or trade). A negative trust from me/you might not be anything but for the borrower, it can be a lot of hassle. I have a borrower who is earning from signature and repaying me for a long time though s/he wasn't able to repay me on time and also wasn't online. Also, I found a few more cases like that too who repaid loans even more than a year later than the due date.
Also, I noticed another lender also getting payment from a borrower's signature campaign as the borrower can't repay the due amount.

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After all, we all are human beings!

I totally agree here. The amount scammed by SiNeReiNZzz is crazy low and he would receive this amount via his signature campaign in just a few weeks to pay the loan off.
But instead, he decided to scam shasan and ruin his own account.
There's still a little possibility that he'll come back once he realizes how stupid his move was but as said, it's very unlikely. 

Done, too. 
I'm hoping as well that DT members will distrust him as he might also try to sell his account (which is unlikely, too, but we are better off to avoid risk here).

The reason might be simple. He was a known gambler.. it looks like there is probably a time when you simply can no longer weigh what is right and wrong... and then you probably do not care about anything, the main thing you have the stake for the next round - cost what it may 
Unfortunately not an isolated case, even here in the forum... (keyword yogg)

This is the problem. Imo, if a borrower doesn't repay a loan on the due date, he must be tagged the very next day. This is what you should do if you want to alert other lender and save them from being scammed by that person.
You need to realize that if you are going to wait few days/weeks till he responds (which isn't going to happen) then he will use that grace periode to scam other lenders.

I don't know what happened to him, a legendary rank account of good reputation ran away with this small amount (not a big amount according to his rank and reputation). If he had been active in this forum and participated in a signature campaign, it would not have taken much time to pay off this loan. But he became inactive and ruined his reputation.

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He was online on Telegram in the last week or so and someone said that his was active on Twitter few months ago so he is probably alive and well but for whatever reason decided to go awol.

Nice thread. No, fortunately I don't know anyone who had such death, I don't expect to know anyone too.

Rank of an account always don't reflect a constant value. We have Legendary members who even struggle to join a signature campaign (not saying that it is the only scale to justify the value) but $6xx is really a less risky deal with a legendary member especially when they are in a signature campaign and fairly active on the forum. We had yogg who scammed $50k. Let's just hope that he is healthy and come back soon with some convincing story.

First find out he is alive and healthy. Hopefully you will be able to find someone who knows him in person and in touch with his family.

What a shame. I supported your flag and informed the German community here, because SiNeReiNZzz was quite active on the German local board some time ago.

In any case, the German DT-users involved are now aware of the situation and can remove him from their trust list. And there may even be the possibility that someone had closer contact with him.

Maybe he can be convinced to pay the outstanding amount after all. Let's see, maybe there are other German users here who know more. I will let you know if someone replies anything substantial in the German thread.

You are right and there is nothing you and I know you are trying to say on my side.

You are right that trust is easy to build but rank is not easy to build nowadays. And one more thing you have mentioned scammer (lender) will be the scammer (borrower). And the method you have mentioned about manipulating trust is right. That's why I do not give loan based on positive trust.

Because 200$ or 600$ or even 1000$ is nothing to the rank of that account, trust of that account, and more important thing that was engaged in the signature campaign from where the borrower could earn passive income.