Loan Defaulted [SiNeReiNZzz] - page 3.

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Quote from: shasan on January 27, 2023, 06:02:04 AM

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Anyway, the person who is operating the telegram is aware of the scam of this fund.

This is a very curios case for me as well for the reason said numerous times here that the amount dued can be paid with small efforts by such rank and reputation of the borrower and I can't fathom a reason of deliberate default for such amount with "collateral" as high as their account. Just in case, yesterday I notified the person who operates their TG as well.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on January 27, 2023, 11:51:20 PM

I notice you give the users you loan a pretty long rope. I'm sure that has to do with hoping you'll get repaid vs opening a scam accusation and running them off? Might I suggest you keep a public log like zazarb does? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/zazarbs-quick-loans-escrow-1161170 This is something where other lenders can see and not get taken as well.

At the time of the loan I give neutral trust and if no communicaion and/or no communication then i give negaive trust to avoid any other scam. I usually do not want yo create scam accusation. Creating scam acxusation is the last step as on this step the account of the defaulter totally ruin.

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I notice you give the users you loan a pretty long rope. I'm sure that has to do with hoping you'll get repaid vs opening a scam accusation and running them off? Might I suggest you keep a public log like zazarb does? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/zazarbs-quick-loans-escrow-1161170 This is something where other lenders can see and not get taken as well.

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Quote from: shasan on January 27, 2023, 10:50:00 PM

You have tried to say me (you) but i am not the defaulter. The person who defaulted the loan could just contact me. If the person contact with me then I would not create scam accusation as this amount of fund can be arranged within a short period of time. The reason i have mentioned just as a suspense no proof and no one know what happened.

Yes I know, sorry if my post was a bit equivocal but it was just an impersonal/generic you, because as you say no one knows what happened actually, so I didn't want to personalize my speech by naming and blaming SiNeReiNZzz specifically. I hope he is ok and he will come back soon to pay back your loan, but people should try to do their best to inform the lender when something is wrong instead of hiding.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on January 27, 2023, 08:27:50 PM

Quote from: shasan on January 27, 2023, 09:00:35 AM

Quote from: Little Mouse on January 27, 2023, 08:38:22 AM

Why would he scam for this tiny amount? It was very much possible to earn within a few week from signature campaign considering the pay rate these days we can see. Shame!

You are right that it is possible to earn multile times of my fund if the person was active on the forum. I can't imagine this type of incident may happen to a legendary member. I think there might have 3 reasons:
1. The person died
2. The person is in prison
3. The account has been hacked or sold/bough
There might have any other reason but can't guess.

Having been hacked, solding his account or being banned is not an acceptable justification. If you are an honest person you will contact your creditor through telegram or you will create a new account here to send him a PM or to post a message on the dedicated thread. Moreover the payback address is usually known, so you dont need to have an account to repay your loan at least partially. It's the same if you're jailed, you can ask someone to inform your creditor of the situation.

You have tried to say me (you) but i am not the defaulter. The person who defaulted the loan could just contact me. If the person contact with me then I would not create scam accusation as this amount of fund can be arranged within a short period of time. The reason i have mentioned just as a suspense no proof and no one know what happened.

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Quote from: shasan on January 27, 2023, 09:00:35 AM

Quote from: Little Mouse on January 27, 2023, 08:38:22 AM

Why would he scam for this tiny amount? It was very much possible to earn within a few week from signature campaign considering the pay rate these days we can see. Shame!

You are right that it is possible to earn multile times of my fund if the person was active on the forum. I can't imagine this type of incident may happen to a legendary member. I think there might have 3 reasons:
1. The person died
2. The person is in prison
3. The account has been hacked or sold/bough
There might have any other reason but can't guess.

Having been hacked, solding his account or being banned is not an acceptable justification. If you are an honest person you will contact your creditor through telegram or you will create a new account here to send him a PM or to post a message on the dedicated thread. Moreover the payback address is usually known, so you dont need to have an account to repay your loan at least partially. It's the same if you're jailed, you can ask someone to inform your creditor of the situation.

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We don't really know how SiNeReiNZzz is out there, but I'm not going to go too far into speculating like he's dead or something. He should have been able to pay off the loan properly, but we don't really know what happened to cause the loan to default. I hope one day he will come back to you, that's just wish from me.

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Quote from: shasan on January 27, 2023, 09:00:35 AM

1. The person died
2. The person is in prison
3. The account has been hacked or sold/bough
There might have any other reason but can't guess.

In the end if fiat money as opposed to crypto had been lent by a brick and mortar bank, then said bank would have marked them as having defaulted on their loan much sooner. Embarrassed

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Quote from: Little Mouse on January 27, 2023, 08:38:22 AM

Why would he scam for this tiny amount? It was very much possible to earn within a few week from signature campaign considering the pay rate these days we can see. Shame!

You are right that it is possible to earn multile times of my fund if the person was active on the forum. I can't imagine this type of incident may happen to a legendary member. I think there might have 3 reasons:
1. The person died
2. The person is in prison
3. The account has been hacked or sold/bough
There might have any other reason but can't guess.

Quote from: Little Mouse on January 27, 2023, 08:38:22 AM

Did he scam because the date never came in his calendar? You mean 31st December?

Typing mistake LOL

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on January 27, 2023, 08:55:13 AM

I commend OP for his level of patience, if it was me, I am not sure I will be patient for this long before calling him out here or tagging him.

I usually post here a long after (though for active users I do not make this type of delay). BUt I tag if I do not get any response. Also, before tagging I give several warning.

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It's really a shame though, to destroy a legendary account for an amount not up to $300 when checked with the current price of bitcoin, it's free really a shame, and if this be the reason why he become inactive here(which I highly doubt), then he's indeed a loser..

Quote from: Little Mouse on January 27, 2023, 08:38:22 AM

Why would he scam for this tiny amount? It was very much possible to earn within a few week from signature campaign considering the pay rate these days we can see. Shame!

Quote from: shasan on January 26, 2023, 10:27:13 PM

What happened:: SiNeReiNZzz took 0.01BTC Loan from me on 12th November 2021 and repayment amount should be 0.01100643BTC on 41st December 2021.

Did he scam because the date never came in his calendar? You mean 31st December?

OP meant 31st December obviously, so it means the defaulter asked for one month extension which is 31st of January 2022,

I commend OP for his level of patience, if it was me, I am not sure I will be patient for this long before calling him out here or tagging him.

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Why would he scam for this tiny amount? It was very much possible to earn within a few week from signature campaign considering the pay rate these days we can see. Shame!

Quote from: shasan on January 26, 2023, 10:27:13 PM

What happened:: SiNeReiNZzz took 0.01BTC Loan from me on 12th November 2021 and repayment amount should be 0.01100643BTC on 41st December 2021.

Did he scam because the date never came in his calendar? You mean 31st December?

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Quote from: Rikafip on January 27, 2023, 05:06:37 AM

Weird case indeed, that member with a good reputation ends like this over few hundred of dollars worth of bitcoin that he could have earned in a couple of weeks via signature campaign. Anyway, flag supported.

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on January 27, 2023, 02:59:30 AM

He was active on twitter last November so nothing happened to him since the loan.

My first thought when I saw that he hasn't been online since March 2022 was that maybe something has happened to him, but I guess that's not the case.

I agree with you that this amount could be earned with a low effort and at the time of accepting the loan request the user was on a signature campaign. There is nothing happened to the user if there is something with the user then still the telegram is active. If there is something wrong then these accounts might be handled with his/her inheritance. But those people are not aware of the forum account and the way of earning funds from the account. Anyway, the person who is operating the telegram is aware of the scam of this fund.

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Weird case indeed, that member with a good reputation ends like this over few hundred of dollars worth of bitcoin that he could have earned in a couple of weeks via signature campaign. Anyway, flag supported.

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on January 27, 2023, 02:59:30 AM

He was active on twitter last November so nothing happened to him since the loan.

My first thought when I saw that he hasn't been online since March 2022 was that maybe something has happened to him, but I guess that's not the case.

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The amount he defaulted the loan isn't high, he's not a shitposter and had decent reputation, it's kinda stupid to ruin his account due to this case.

It's possible if he's comeback and pay full amount of the initial loan with the interest, but I just hope few users who leave him positive feedback need to consider to delete it. I don't think leaving neutral feedback when the loan is fully payed and warn other user to be careful to lend money to this user is enough, because he's already lost his reputation and some people might convinced after looking for his positive feedback.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on January 27, 2023, 01:33:33 AM

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Sad for you both. But It's really abnormal inactivity. He was last active in this forum on March 04, 2022, 03:22:10 PM. it's around a year. I don't know what could the exact reason but I assume this long inactivity can not be for the 10mBTC loan. Maybe something serious happened to him. Otherwise, a Legendary-ranked profile can not leave the forum for this little amount.

Btw OP already waited for a long time for him. So it's worthy supporting the flag or tagging him.

He was active on twitter last November so nothing happened to him since the loan.

I will keep my eyes open if I can spot him in Stake German chat.

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Sad for you both. But It's really abnormal inactivity. He was last active in this forum on March 04, 2022, 03:22:10 PM. it's around a year. I don't know what could the exact reason but I assume this long inactivity can not be for the 10mBTC loan. Maybe something serious happened to him. Otherwise, a Legendary-ranked profile can not leave the forum for this little amount.

Btw OP already waited for a long time for him. So it's worthy supporting the flag or tagging him.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on January 27, 2023, 12:56:24 AM

Since he is also a gambler we know where the money might have gone.

Very sad to waste a legendary account because of this.

Hope you somehow get it back Shasan.

The SiNeReiNZzz is a legendary member this amount could be gained only less than a month by joining on the signature campaign. I could not understand the reason for defaulting on the loan. The has had several green/positive trusts too on his/her profile. I am a loser but SiNeReiNZzz is more loser than me as his/her profile was more valuable than my fund.

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Since he is also a gambler we know where the money might have gone.

Very sad to waste a legendary account because of this.

Hope you somehow get it back Shasan.

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There's a couple of people who DT trust him. Hopefully they revoke their support soon.

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