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Topic: Localbitcoins stole my bitcoins just because I'm Iranian - page 2. (Read 595 times)

legendary
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Did you get your money back?
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Iran banned bitcoin,but localbitcoin still offers service for them
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LocalBitcoins does not offer the use of its services in the Federal Republic of Germany, or the States of New York or Washington in the United States of America. You confirm that you are not a resident or governed by the laws and regulations of these jurisdictions.

So legality is not the reason why you got suspended.
About your country no one can comment because rules differ for every countries and their citizen must have to obey them or better leave that country.
jr. member
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Dude I'm not in North Korea I'm in Iran lol
We've got internet although we'll need to use VPN since half of the websites are banned by our government and the other half are banned because of sanctions.
My understanding is the Iran government has blocked the majority of the internet and given the free speech nature of the forum, I would have assumed they would have banned this forum.

As I said, my only advice is to leave Iran. I understand the Iran government killed 1,000 protesters around a month ago and there are rumors they killed protesters who were protesting the Iran government shooting down the Commercial airliner. I would consider living in Iran to be very dangerous.

Well... Iran's both better and worse than what you think about it.
It's not "dangerous" to live here but it's not comfortable too.
To get a feeling of how it is to live here I would suggest you see the Peter Santenello series on his travel to Iran.
But about leaving here, that's not easy too. Since our currency value has declined our money and savings are worth nothing outside our country and if we want to move out we would leave everything behind and start our lives from absolute zero, which in many cases would be even harder than living inside our country.
I'm planning to apply for an educational visa to some country and study there for a while and then maybe come back to Iran, but after that I would have the chance to leave the country whenever I want.
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Dude I'm not in North Korea I'm in Iran lol
We've got internet although we'll need to use VPN since half of the websites are banned by our government and the other half are banned because of sanctions.
My understanding is the Iran government has blocked the majority of the internet and given the free speech nature of the forum, I would have assumed they would have banned this forum.

As I said, my only advice is to leave Iran. I understand the Iran government killed 1,000 protesters around a month ago and there are rumors they killed protesters who were protesting the Iran government shooting down the Commercial airliner. I would consider living in Iran to be very dangerous.
jr. member
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I've got some good news!

lbtc just accepted my address verification!  Grin
I can withdraw all of my money now. I'm so excited!  Cheesy

Thanks everyone for your support and ideas.
Stop calling the sites are scam at first instances,good you got your bitcoins back.And the blame should be on your for not knowing their announcement which was way back longer and have enough time for people to withdraw if they did't like their KYC terms.

First of all, this wasn't in the first instance. I had been arguing with them for around 2 months over this problem. Second, they cannot hold my money because of their KYC terms which shouldn't have applied to me in the first place according to their own rules since I never had more than 1500 euros annual transaction amount. They can only prevent me from using their platform for trading bitcoins.
Third, I already provided them the required documentation for my address verification, but they kept rejecting it for no reason.
You are using their wallet also for that you may have to accept their terms of service.
So I am wondering whether you are able to trade on their domain now since they have accepted your address verification or you are still banned and can only make withdrawals on the sites only.

Actually no. my account is suspended. I can only withdraw my money.

Suspended because of?

Normally it will happen if you have unresolved disputes on trade and if this is you also can't withdraw bitcoins as well.

Because of being Iranian.
It's not the first time I get banned for my nationality! even the most regular services ban us. You cannot play any Origin games if you live in Iran, you cannot update your Nvidia graphics card or Intel chipset drivers, you cannot access GitHub, and many others that have become a normal thing for me.

If you don't believe me, you can check my feedback on my lbtc account here.


LBC doesn’t allow people located in Iran to trade on their platform. The US has sanctions against Iran. I don’t know the specific laws/rules governing the sanctions, but facilitating the transfer of money, including coin would probably be violating the sanctions. I wouldn’t be surprised if LBC had the US DOJ sign off on releasing the OPs coin out of an abundance of caution.

It is a very bad situation and the only advice I can offer is for the OP to leave Iran if he can. I am a little surprised he can even access the forum from Iran (it appears he is claiming to be in Iran).

Dude I'm not in North Korea I'm in Iran lol
We've got internet although we'll need to use a VPN since half of the websites are banned by our government and the other half are banned by yours.
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LBC doesn’t allow people located in Iran to trade on their platform. The US has sanctions against Iran. I don’t know the specific laws/rules governing the sanctions, but facilitating the transfer of money, including coin would probably be violating the sanctions. I wouldn’t be surprised if LBC had the US DOJ sign off on releasing the OPs coin out of an abundance of caution.

It is a very bad situation and the only advice I can offer is for the OP to leave Iran if he can. I am a little surprised he can even access the forum from Iran (it appears he is claiming to be in Iran).
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I've got some good news!

lbtc just accepted my address verification!  Grin
I can withdraw all of my money now. I'm so excited!  Cheesy

Thanks everyone for your support and ideas.
Stop calling the sites are scam at first instances,good you got your bitcoins back.And the blame should be on your for not knowing their announcement which was way back longer and have enough time for people to withdraw if they did't like their KYC terms.

First of all, this wasn't in the first instance. I had been arguing with them for around 2 months over this problem. Second, they cannot hold my money because of their KYC terms which shouldn't have applied to me in the first place according to their own rules since I never had more than 1500 euros annual transaction amount. They can only prevent me from using their platform for trading bitcoins.
Third, I already provided them the required documentation for my address verification, but they kept rejecting it for no reason.
You are using their wallet also for that you may have to accept their terms of service.
So I am wondering whether you are able to trade on their domain now since they have accepted your address verification or you are still banned and can only make withdrawals on the sites only.

Actually no. my account is suspended. I can only withdraw my money.

Suspended because of?

Normally it will happen if you have unresolved disputes on trade and if this is you also can't withdraw bitcoins as well.
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 1
So I am wondering whether you are able to trade on their domain now since they have accepted your address verification or you are still banned and can only make withdrawals on the sites only.

Actually no. my account is suspended. I can only withdraw my money.
sr. member
Activity: 868
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I've got some good news!

lbtc just accepted my address verification!  Grin
I can withdraw all of my money now. I'm so excited!  Cheesy

Thanks everyone for your support and ideas.
Stop calling the sites are scam at first instances,good you got your bitcoins back.And the blame should be on your for not knowing their announcement which was way back longer and have enough time for people to withdraw if they did't like their KYC terms.

First of all, this wasn't in the first instance. I had been arguing with them for around 2 months over this problem. Second, they cannot hold my money because of their KYC terms which shouldn't have applied to me in the first place according to their own rules since I never had more than 1500 euros annual transaction amount. They can only prevent me from using their platform for trading bitcoins.
Third, I already provided them the required documentation for my address verification, but they kept rejecting it for no reason.
So I am wondering whether you are able to trade on their domain now since they have accepted your address verification or you are still banned and can only make withdrawals on the sites only.
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 1
I've got some good news!

lbtc just accepted my address verification!  Grin
I can withdraw all of my money now. I'm so excited!  Cheesy

Thanks everyone for your support and ideas.
Stop calling the sites are scam at first instances,good you got your bitcoins back.And the blame should be on your for not knowing their announcement which was way back longer and have enough time for people to withdraw if they did't like their KYC terms.

First of all, this wasn't in the first instance. I had been arguing with them for around 2 months over this problem. Second, they cannot hold my money because of their KYC terms which shouldn't have applied to me in the first place according to their own rules since I never had more than 1500 euros annual transaction amount. They can only prevent me from using their platform for trading bitcoins.
Third, I already provided them the required documentation for my address verification, but they kept rejecting it for no reason.
full member
Activity: 1106
Merit: 166
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I've got some good news!

lbtc just accepted my address verification!  Grin
I can withdraw all of my money now. I'm so excited!  Cheesy

Thanks everyone for your support and ideas.
Stop calling the sites are scam at first instances,good you got your bitcoins back.And the blame should be on your for not knowing their announcement which was way back longer and have enough time for people to withdraw if they did't like their KYC terms.
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 1
I've got some good news!

lbtc just accepted my address verification!  Grin
I can withdraw all of my money now. I'm so excited!  Cheesy

Thanks everyone for your support and ideas.
jr. member
Activity: 32
Merit: 1
Weren't you the same guy complaining about not being able to ship in the ICs needed for a project? Wow, this sucks big time.  Angry

I don't have any solutions I can suggest and there's really not much you can do against them. If I were you I'd probably go follow Spendulus' suggestion of trying to make formal communications and hope someone picks it up and then try work out a solution from that. I don't know if social media are blocked there but if you can carpet bomb their Twitter with you complaint they might actually try to contact you since that's going to agitate customers.

Yeah, I'm the same person.
That's a good idea, I will try that if they don't respond to my support tickets. Thanks for that.
sr. member
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Weren't you the same guy complaining about not being able to ship in the ICs needed for a project? Wow, this sucks big time.  Angry

I don't have any solutions I can suggest and there's really not much you can do against them. If I were you I'd probably go follow Spendulus' suggestion of trying to make formal communications and hope someone picks it up and then try work out a solution from that. I don't know if social media are blocked there but if you can carpet bomb their Twitter with you complaint they might actually try to contact you since that's going to agitate customers.
legendary
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No reason but who is going to punish them for that? Tell me who?

They do it, because they can get away with it. They do it, because they can.

Why do you think USA killed the Iranian general?

Because they can.
I mean if lbtc was USA based I wouldn't trust them for sure. But I trusted them because they're based in Finland, while the EU is still a part of the JCPOA.
It seems like I was wrong...
You can't trust anybody if you don't have leverage.

Not your keys, not your coins.
jr. member
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No reason but who is going to punish them for that? Tell me who?

They do it, because they can get away with it. They do it, because they can.

Why do you think USA killed the Iranian general?

Because they can.
I mean if lbtc was USA based I wouldn't trust them for sure. But I trusted them because they're based in Finland, while the EU is still a part of the JCPOA.
It seems like I was wrong...
You can't trust anybody if you don't have leverage.
legendary
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I mean even if they did KYC and everything and you kept your money on the exchange, you still should be able to get your money back. No reason for them to 'steal your money' just because of this.

I'd compare this to online gambling sites 'banning Americans' (I put it in quotes because EVERYONE uses a VPN) when someone wins a large sum of money and they want verification the American (when submitting their american stuff) is stripped of their winnings but is returned their original funds that were placed on the site. You can't just run off with peoples money -- well at least not in the regular world, the wild west of crypto is a bit interesting.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
There's no reason for them to hold my money because I could not verify my address. Not to mention that according to their own rules and terms there's no need for accounts with less than 1500 euro income per year to verify their address. I have already verified my passport and identity.
They're just making an excuse to steal my money knowing that I would not be able to stand against them because of the sanctions.

No reason but who is going to punish them for that? Tell me who?

They do it, because they can get away with it. They do it, because they can.

Why do you think USA killed the Iranian general?

Because they can.
jr. member
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I mean even if they did KYC and everything and you kept your money on the exchange, you still should be able to get your money back. No reason for them to 'steal your money' just because of this.

I'd compare this to online gambling sites 'banning Americans' (I put it in quotes because EVERYONE uses a VPN) when someone wins a large sum of money and they want verification the American (when submitting their american stuff) is stripped of their winnings but is returned their original funds that were placed on the site. You can't just run off with peoples money -- well at least not in the regular world, the wild west of crypto is a bit interesting.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
There's no reason for them to hold my money because I could not verify my address. Not to mention that according to their own rules and terms there's no need for accounts with less than 1500 euro income per year to verify their address. I have already verified my passport and identity.
They're just making an excuse to steal my money knowing that I would not be able to stand against them because of the sanctions.
legendary
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Localbitcoins started KYC'ing people long time ago. If you knew it and still decided to take the risks, you had it coming. Any business with a .com domain name has a secret partner: The U.S.

Unlucky for you, Iran is the country they decided to bomb next.

I mean even if they did KYC and everything and you kept your money on the exchange, you still should be able to get your money back. No reason for them to 'steal your money' just because of this.

I'd compare this to online gambling sites 'banning Americans' (I put it in quotes because EVERYONE uses a VPN) when someone wins a large sum of money and they want verification the American (when submitting their american stuff) is stripped of their winnings but is returned their original funds that were placed on the site. You can't just run off with peoples money -- well at least not in the regular world, the wild west of crypto is a bit interesting.
legendary
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Why don’t you send them something else as address verification? O.O

I live with my parents and none of the utility bills are registered to my name. I only have my bank account which they don't seem to accept for some reason :/

This might be why. They might be using credit agencies databases to verify your KYC info. See if you can ask your parents for help to use their bank/address info to fulfill KYC obligations if you can. With the new round of sanctions against Iran they probably are crossing all of the Ts and dotting all of the Is as far as regulations.
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