LocalBitcoins.com - Unfair dispute handling - page 2.

cryptoanarchist

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Quote from: sangaman on December 04, 2013, 07:33:19 PM

Quote from: cryptoanarchist on December 04, 2013, 06:50:51 PM

Sorry, I fail to see how this was bad support from LocalBitcoins. If the buyer didn't have the funds in by the deadline that was originally part of the deal, than it is what it is.

I think you should have just taken the 12.7 BTC and not been so fussy, ginbank. You still would have gotten a great deal. Shouldn't have gotten all greedy.

Just to note, there may be something to the hacking story. I had my sell price changed on it once to a way lower price, but I only do cash deals and just canceled it.

The part about punishing OP for taking the issue to reddit was pretty bad, at a minimum.

I'm not sure we're getting the whole story about that from the OP. Notice how the message he copied was cropped. I have a feeling it had to do with information he was disclosing on reddit. Either way, he wasn't being "punished".

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Firstbits.com/1fg4i :)

Wait, wasn't he told to go talk on forums about it by one of their employees?

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Quote from: cryptoanarchist on December 04, 2013, 06:50:51 PM

Sorry, I fail to see how this was bad support from LocalBitcoins. If the buyer didn't have the funds in by the deadline that was originally part of the deal, than it is what it is.

I think you should have just taken the 12.7 BTC and not been so fussy, ginbank. You still would have gotten a great deal. Shouldn't have gotten all greedy.

Just to note, there may be something to the hacking story. I had my sell price changed on it once to a way lower price, but I only do cash deals and just canceled it.

The part about punishing OP for taking the issue to reddit was pretty bad, at a minimum.

cryptoanarchist

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Sorry, I fail to see how this was bad support from LocalBitcoins. If the buyer didn't have the funds in by the deadline that was originally part of the deal, than it is what it is.

I think you should have just taken the 12.7 BTC and not been so fussy, ginbank. You still would have gotten a great deal. Shouldn't have gotten all greedy.

Just to note, there may be something to the hacking story. I had my sell price changed on it once to a way lower price, but I only do cash deals and just canceled it.

sangaman

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Pathetic handling by LBC, good luck ginbank. And def stay safe although I can't admit I fully understand what's going on with strange men trespassing on your property. I won't ever be using LBC's escrow service.

ginbank

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It's been ridiculous from the start, anyone who takes the time to review everything I posted can see it.

Gomerlin, if you are wondering how anybody would contact you on your personal gmail.com address, your blogspot page could easily be found with a google search and your gmail address is listed on the page. Since you took down your personal blog, it can still be found via web.archive.org ... (waybackmachine) as well as google cache. You can not permanently delete your blog.

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Quote from: ginbank on December 04, 2013, 07:49:31 AM

Gomerlin is continuing to make up stories about hackers accessing his account on LocalBitcoins.com, indirectly threatening me. The stories he is coming up with are ridiculous and don't make any sense, he is just trying to make it look like he had nothing to do with the person who came to my house.

Quote from: gomerlin via localbitcoins.com

Dear Christina,
I hope you can read this and not share it with anyone. I know you are still posting about what happen to you and I totally understand you; but please be careful. I don't want anything bad happen to you because it will reflect in me. I just notice there was a "Guy" called "Garizzle" that replied to your post. I have serious suspicious this guy is the hacker. He contacted me to my personal email, that only the hacker could have access to. also he threaten me and asked me for one bitcoin and he will forget about the whole deal. the same as He wrotes to you when he hacked in my account. Please Christina, He might be trying to become your friend to harm you, remember that he had access to my account and he knows where you live and he speaks German. Now in this post you just informed him that you live alone. please find yourself a companion he obviously is a dangerous person.
With all my empathy
Juan Carlos
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This is getting ridiculous.

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Quote from: ginbank on December 04, 2013, 07:49:31 AM

Gomerlin is continuing to make up stories about hackers accessing his account on LocalBitcoins.com, indirectly threatening me. The stories he is coming up with are ridiculous and don't make any sense, he is just trying to make it look like he had nothing to do with the person who came to my house.

Quote from: gomerlin via localbitcoins.com

Dear Christina,
I hope you can read this and not share it with anyone. I know you are still posting about what happen to you and I totally understand you; but please be careful. I don't want anything bad happen to you because it will reflect in me. I just notice there was a "Guy" called "Garizzle" that replied to your post. I have serious suspicious this guy is the hacker. He contacted me to my personal email, that only the hacker could have access to. also he threaten me and asked me for one bitcoin and he will forget about the whole deal. the same as He wrotes to you when he hacked in my account. Please Christina, He might be trying to become your friend to harm you, remember that he had access to my account and he knows where you live and he speaks German. Now in this post you just informed him that you live alone. please find yourself a companion he obviously is a dangerous person.
With all my empathy
Juan Carlos
----

What? Now in this post you just informed him that you live alone. please find yourself a companion he obviously is a dangerous person
lol Tongue

ginbank

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Gomerlin is continuing to make up stories about hackers accessing his account on LocalBitcoins.com, indirectly threatening me. The stories he is coming up with are ridiculous and don't make any sense, he is just trying to make it look like he had nothing to do with the person who came to my house.

Quote from: gomerlin via localbitcoins.com

Dear Christina,
I hope you can read this and not share it with anyone. I know you are still posting about what happen to you and I totally understand you; but please be careful. I don't want anything bad happen to you because it will reflect in me. I just notice there was a "Guy" called "Garizzle" that replied to your post. I have serious suspicious this guy is the hacker. He contacted me to my personal email, that only the hacker could have access to. also he threaten me and asked me for one bitcoin and he will forget about the whole deal. the same as He wrotes to you when he hacked in my account. Please Christina, He might be trying to become your friend to harm you, remember that he had access to my account and he knows where you live and he speaks German. Now in this post you just informed him that you live alone. please find yourself a companion he obviously is a dangerous person.
With all my empathy
Juan Carlos
----

Gomerlin

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Please _Gin_Bank_ you have my personal email. contact me ASAP it's very important!

ginbank

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Update

Dec 3 - LocalBitcoins.com have released the remaining ~12.7 BTC out of escrow back to the seller. The case is with my lawyer.

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Wow that sucks!

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Quote from: ginbank on November 26, 2013, 08:20:54 AM

update:

Nov 26 - LocalBitcoins admins are still supporting the seller to back out of the trade (I bought 13 BTC with $7367.23 AUD on Nov 18),
saying they will return the amount of BTC that is remaining in escrow to the seller, and let him return the AUD to my bank account! This would be outrageous.

What?
So, the deal will be cancelled even though you have sent the seller money on time?
That is just unbelievable.

ginbank

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Thank you Garizzle for sharing this information!

The advantages of making this public become obvious.

I will not get LocalBitcoins and the seller Gomerlin get away with this. Obviously LocalBitcoins are aware of at least one more person who was having trouble with this seller.

Garizzles case it a little different, because the BTC are not even secured in escrow since the payment was not marked complete. The seller should at least have the obligation to return the bank transfer in Garizzles case.

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I'd just like to chime in that I also had a bad experience with user "Gomerlin" on this site. In my case, it was my mistake in that I somehow forgot to click "Payment Complete" after I had transferred him $2,000AUD. Once I realised (unfortunately it was the next day, I think), I immediately requested him to re-open the purchase, but this was futile as obviously he had the bitcoins returned to him. He kept ignoring me and trying to mislead me in various ways, but I knew that he had received the funds. Anyway, eventually he agreed to "return my money" (this was several days ago), and since then has ignored all my attempts to contact him, including directly via email. I had even attempted to cut a deal with him (via email), to at least send me 1 BTC back, otherwise I would pursue the matter with appropriate authorities. As he still has not replied, I have begun taking action. We will see how this goes.

Note: I also filed a dispute to Localbitcoins, but I don't expect there to be any resolution. It seems Localbitcoins staff are either extremely busy or just hold disputes in contempt because they didn't even think it worthy to respond at all. This was a few days ago already.

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Quote from: ginbank on November 26, 2013, 09:49:27 AM

Quote from: coqui33 on November 26, 2013, 09:06:21 AM

Quote from: PenAndPaper on November 26, 2013, 08:54:02 AM

Judgment of Solomon. I say take the deal and run. And be carefull from who you buy in the future Tongue

I agree. I believe that LBC's resolution was more than fair to the buyer.

Can you explain what was fair about cutting the amount of BTC I bought down to ~12.7 for no reason?

Yes it would have been more economical, taking a 0.3 BTC loss at this stage as opposed to paying my lawyer. But considering the threats and accusations and the unprofessional behavior by the seller and localbitcoins, I will rather give my lawyer the money.

My physical security was threatened, and having a man trespass on my property has affected me badly as a female living alone.

You should definately do that if you think that they harmed you in any way.
Also it seems that i missed the part that someone trespassed your property. wtf Huh

ginbank

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Quote from: coqui33 on November 26, 2013, 09:06:21 AM

Quote from: PenAndPaper on November 26, 2013, 08:54:02 AM

Judgment of Solomon. I say take the deal and run. And be carefull from who you buy in the future Tongue

I agree. I believe that LBC's resolution was more than fair to the buyer.

Can you explain what was fair about cutting the amount of BTC I bought down to ~12.7 for no reason?

Yes it would have been more economical, taking a 0.3 BTC loss at this stage as opposed to paying my lawyer. But considering the threats and accusations and the unprofessional behavior by the seller and localbitcoins, I will rather give my lawyer the money.

My physical security was threatened, and having a man trespass on my property has affected me badly as a female living alone.
My funds are being illegally withheld, I will sue for damages, lost income, lawyers fees, whatever my lawyer recommends. I have enough evidence and the stupid comment by localbitcoins stating that they would have already released my BTC from escrow had I not made the case public, _after_ localbitcoins staff himself suggested to me to make the case public and ask the opinion of the community will be a good indication of their behavior to anyone reviewing this case.

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Quote from: PenAndPaper on November 26, 2013, 08:54:02 AM

Judgment of Solomon. I say take the deal and run. And be carefull from who you buy in the future Tongue

I agree. I believe that LBC's resolution was more than fair to the buyer.

PenAndPaper

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Judgment of Solomon. I say take the deal and run. And be carefull from who you buy in the future Tongue

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I could tell you from the start that this will be their solution but didn't want to be the bringer of bad news.

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