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Watch the video about how to handle Government, medical and others who attempt to coerce you into doing all kinds of useless junk regarding Covid.


Dr Tenpenny and Hugs Over Masks - Important Activist Training - What we are going to do?



In this introduction to important activist training webinars lead by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, she will answer your questions and help you organize with strategic calls to action. You will be a part of your city's chapter in a world wide organization, Hugs Over Masks Nation, taking the necessary steps to stop mandates, empower your community and take back your freedom.


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There don't seem to be any stats for covid deaths, only deaths from people with covid symptoms.

Masks extend the recovery time through reinfection, and can cause a variety of problems such as hypoxia. They also provide a convenient protective hiding place for the virus.

Is there any evidence that covid kills? All causes mortality seems to be reducing in countries that don't suffer from malnutrition. That is counter intuitive if you believe that covid is deadly.
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Informed opinion seems to believe that 70-80% of the population already has immunity. That seems to be herd immunity, but the government seems to have not-heard-immunity.

Covid doesn't kill, but lockdowns, unemployment and debts do. ( and masks Smiley ).

What is 'informed opinion'?

Is there a source on that? Is anyone else repeating that claim who has any credentials in the world of medicine, science, etc?

COVID does kill.

Obviously lock downs, unemployment and debt does as well. But you can't fully reopen an economy if COVID is still ravaging on and killing people. The economy can't recover unless this is gone, we're just going to continue to have to lockdown every so often if outbreaks continue.

Also - What's wrong with masks?
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Informed opinion seems to believe that 70-80% of the population already has immunity. That seems to be herd immunity, but the government seems to have not-heard-immunity.

Covid doesn't kill, but lockdowns, unemployment and debts do. ( and masks Smiley ).
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People don't fully understand how bad herd immunity is. Vaccine is a much better option in terms of the amount of people dead / sick / etc.

vaccines and herd immunity rely on the exact same mechanism: the immune system develops anti-bodies that recognize the proteins protruding from the virus


Not even talking about the overflowing hospitals we would have if we went about doing this.

no evidence exists that any such thing would happen. evidence quite to the contrary does (countries with high death rates were simply recording SARS-Cov2 deaths incorrectly, the actual typical death rate is similar to that of seasonal influenza)


it's a basic fact of epidemiology that deadly pathogens don't spread well, and that as pathogens become more benign they spread faster, e.g.

  • ebola, guarantee of death is high, spread very poorly
  • influenza, very low death rate, spreads so pervasively that it's a fact of life for everyone

sorry to interrupt your death-cult doomsday nonsense, but the facts are (sadly) quite simple

70-80 % of people have to get the Coronavirus for herd immunity to be effective, right? That means that there are going to be a massive increase in the amount of hospitalizations, infections, deaths, and so on and so forth.

Even in the most conservative estimates of hospitalizations, with 70% of the population getting it, you'd still be overflowing hospitals and having some people dying solely due to the overflow.

However, there are some major problems with relying on community infection to create herd immunity to the virus that causes COVID-19. First, it isn't yet clear if infection with the COVID-19 virus makes a person immune to future infection.

Research suggests that after infection with some coronaviruses, reinfection with the same virus — though usually mild and only happening in a fraction of people — is possible after a period of months or years. Further research is needed to determine the protective effect of antibodies to the virus in those who have been infected.

Even if infection with the COVID-19 virus creates long-lasting immunity, a large number of people would have to become infected to reach the herd immunity threshold. Experts estimate that in the U.S., 70% of the population — more than 200 million people — would have to recover from COVID-19 to halt the epidemic. If many people become sick with COVID-19 at once, the health care system could quickly become overwhelmed. This amount of infection could also lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those who have chronic conditions.

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How are they going to find people who haven't had contact with the virus for vaccination? ....

Maybe the jackbooted stormtroopers could be put to work on this job. I hear they have not had much work lately, and they too have families to support.

For a while it looked like Antifa would hire them, but they found aging, derelict Occupy protestors living in storm sewers who would riot for almost nothing, just enough to buy some drink and weed.

Then it seemed like the stormtroopers could get work defending federal buildings against Antifa violent operations, but no....

So that's my suggestion. Squads of them going house to house searching.
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People don't fully understand how bad herd immunity is. Vaccine is a much better option in terms of the amount of people dead / sick / etc.

vaccines and herd immunity rely on the exact same mechanism: the immune system develops anti-bodies that recognize the proteins protruding from the virus
Even if vaccines and herd immunity perform the same function in the body, they do not quite follow the same process, for herd immunity, you'll expect quite a large percentage of the population to contract the virus and well, anyone who survives it, then gets the immunity; but in the case of a vaccine, you do not need to have contracted the virus to get vaccinated, hence it somewhat reduces the fatality risks, whereas for herd immunity, the risks of deaths are very high.
Particularly about covid 19 the mortality rate is very low and people died for other reasons as well after infected with virus but still most of the government report it as covid 19 death.Here in my place few people got infected but they found that they are completely okay now in only one week of time so this is not a deadly virus to lock the whole world inside their house.
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How are they going to find people who haven't had contact with the virus for vaccination? I suspect most people will have had contact by now, so they will need to vaccinate those with natural immunity to cover their investment. This has the added benefit for them that it could generate cytokine storms, and thus foster the myth of the deadly disease. It also allows them to add their organ destruction additives to the vaccine. I wonder if the vaccine released for the sheeple will be the same as the one that underwent the so-called tests.
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People don't fully understand how bad herd immunity is. Vaccine is a much better option in terms of the amount of people dead / sick / etc.

vaccines and herd immunity rely on the exact same mechanism: the immune system develops anti-bodies that recognize the proteins protruding from the virus
Even if vaccines and herd immunity perform the same function in the body, they do not quite follow the same process, for herd immunity, you'll expect quite a large percentage of the population to contract the virus and well, anyone who survives it, then gets the immunity; but in the case of a vaccine, you do not need to have contracted the virus to get vaccinated, hence it somewhat reduces the fatality risks, whereas for herd immunity, the risks of deaths are very high.
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Gone are the days when mass people feared the covid-19 virus, come-on how do they expect the people to live on luck down -until when- -through out the year?-
Reports has it many vaccines are reaching going from stage to stage, I think this can make the government instill more fear till the pharmaceutical industry comes up with something,
In old time we can't say viruses and infective micro-organism never existed but they tackled it -they did not have the chemicals and sophisticated laboratory- as we can see today, natural remedies was a prize to them. Even if a vaccine to covid-19 is found in some years another contagious disease/sickness surges up, do we then go back again to finding vaccines for it, precious time that will cost some infected people their life's as we see with the covid-19 virus. Our immunity is there Incase of advent of sickness or invaders, nature has in it effective power to boost immunity and remedies for sickness. Covid-19 is not the beginning of sickness and will not be the end.
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I gather that all causes deaths are at a 5 year low - that doesn't fit with a deadly pandemic. They keep adding symptoms to the infection indicators. Pretty soon they will add dirty fingernails, and then report that anyone with dirty finger nails has died from the virus. One of the reasons that the virus is able to allow people to die from other causes is the rise of vaccinations, and the destruction of natural health. Also I suspect that the real count of deaths from the virus is pretty low, and as the immunity spreads, it will leave traces that allow for misreporting.

You should also consider factors like malnutrition. The body does what it can to protect life, and if it can't get enough nutrition, then it starts to shut down various functions. Unfortunately the immune system is one of the earliest victims of this shutdown, and this is why some of the undeveloped countries have an increase in deaths.

[NOTE} Trust me I'm not a doctor, and haven't been indoctrinated by Pharma propaganda.
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People don't fully understand how bad herd immunity is. Vaccine is a much better option in terms of the amount of people dead / sick / etc.

vaccines and herd immunity rely on the exact same mechanism: the immune system develops anti-bodies that recognize the proteins protruding from the virus


Not even talking about the overflowing hospitals we would have if we went about doing this.

no evidence exists that any such thing would happen. evidence quite to the contrary does (countries with high death rates were simply recording SARS-Cov2 deaths incorrectly, the actual typical death rate is similar to that of seasonal influenza)


it's a basic fact of epidemiology that deadly pathogens don't spread well, and that as pathogens become more benign they spread faster, e.g.

  • ebola, guarantee of death is high, spread very poorly
  • influenza, very low death rate, spreads so pervasively that it's a fact of life for everyone

sorry to interrupt your death-cult doomsday nonsense, but the facts are (sadly) quite simple
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I think the animal's system will become ineffective because doctors are unable to stop it in any way With the spread of coronavirus social infections across the country and therefore the number of infections and deaths breaking new records a day the govt isn't showing any initiative to realize the important goal of testing many people for corona. Although the treatment of the coronavirus has been credited in various ways since the onset of the coronavirus epidemic within the world all achievements in coronary tests and health care in Lezgobar seem to be failing Everything will become more ineffective until the vaccine is out there.
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I'm pretty sure through all of this you're pretty much saying that people in lockdown are unable to get herd immunity,, which is a reason that the virus hasn't gone away yet? Maybe some conspiracy stuff thrown in about how the government is trying to kill the economy by making up this virus or some shit like that.

You do understand that for herd immunity to be effective you need around 70-80% of the population to get COVID. Which means that the amount of people in every country (and int he world) who are going to die is tremendous. Like millions of people are going to die if we just say 'fuck it, we'll just stop all of this and let everyone get it'

People don't fully understand how bad herd immunity is. Vaccine is a much better option in terms of the amount of people dead / sick / etc. Not even talking about the overflowing hospitals we would have if we went about doing this.
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The UK has announced an increase in the lockdown restrictions. This is obviously intended to reduce the spread of immunity, and this follows billions of pounds of taxpayers money being given to the Pharma companies for vaccines. Several reports have stated that vaccines that are getting close to natural immunity are possible, but these seem to be based on synthetic viruses. Why not just go for the free immunity that nature gives us. I understand that it has become difficult to test covid products as so many people have natural immunity, and there aren't many people who are infected at the moment. They are getting round this by requiring self isolation for people with symptoms rather than the virus infection. The number of associated symptoms are being increased as well.

It all seems like a government panic as people are starting to realise that covid-19 is not the problem that they pretended it was/is.
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