[LOCKED] DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread

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Quote from: John (John K.) on March 21, 2012, 10:33:54 PM

Gents, please take your discussion elsewhere as this is solely about the Alexander Adams loan. This thread will end up being locked if this continues on I think... Undecided

I think I will close it now.

Just to re-iterate, I do not know for sure "DI" is the "DI" with personal info on the web (the "real" DI is contesting our assumption of him as "our" DI). The person I think is DI's dad has not contacted me back when I tried contacting him via email - his telephone # just beeped continuously. I am no longer going forward with this and have no interest in releasing the information we have on "DI" except to other lenders. If you are another lender and are interested in the documents (including the Breach of Contract Notification I have written up with a table of who's owed what), please PM me.

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Away on an extended break

Gents, please take your discussion elsewhere as this is solely about the Alexander Adams loan. This thread will end up being locked if this continues on I think... Undecided

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on March 21, 2012, 10:18:11 PM

I can also tell you to go butt fuck yourself... Oh fuck... I already did...

Go slander me.

Oh yea, and that was your legal team's response? THEY'RE MORONS. Oh and you're too.

Using an american company to host your shitty site - PRICELESS.

American company? LOL
Now tell me who the moron is...

@Goat... oh fuck... Goat... (that' reminds me I know a guy who likes to have sex with goats) Roll Eyes

You'll have to send me the notice yourself without my help. Ask my registrar for my info...

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on March 21, 2012, 09:53:57 PM

Slander?

There is a real company behind that website, with a legal team. Don't let the whois privacy fool you. And if you look closely you'll see which company it is. You are just buthurt because someone posted that you are a fussy prick, which you are indeed. Sue us if you think we are slandering you. Our lawyers will be thankful...
Since that post was made, and you proudly showed it in your sig(I have screenshots with timestaps proving it), not even once you tried to refute what was written there, so I must assume it's the truth...
Also, I have an edit on that post striking wahtever was out of line there. Fight that if you wish. I'll PM you all my company info if you wish to prosecute us.

You can send that legal team to butt fuck themselves, they know absolutely zero about international law (which doesn't exist per say). If I sue them in US, I can pretty much fuck them if they deal with any US person or a company.

Go slander me.

I can also send you to butt fuck yourself...

Oh fuck... I already did...

Go slander me.

BTW... US? what's that? a brand of shampoo?

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Please, it's psy, not PSY... I'm not deaf, don't shout my name. I can read Roll Eyes

BTW, should I send you that PM now, so you can go file a lawsuit against us on a Thai court?

Or are you afraid that the court finds out that your phony company uses nulled themes with exploits for your website because you can't even afford a $40/year license for it?

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Quote from: Raoul Duke on March 21, 2012, 05:10:28 PM

Post all his info on the Bitcoin Shitlist.

I'll deal with him if he wants it removed Wink

Just refrain from posting his dad's info, but post all his other online ID's.

I don't think going that route is the way to go. Connecting ourselves with a site with nothing more than slander will not make us look good. We have other real and effective options if we want to use them.

Slander?

There is a real company behind that website, with a legal team. Don't let the whois privacy fool you. And if you look closely you'll see which company it is. You are just buthurt because someone posted that you are a fussy prick, which you are indeed. Sue us if you think we are slandering you. Our lawyers will be thankful...
Since that post was made, and you proudly showed it in your sig(I have screenshots with timestaps proving it), not even once you tried to refute what was written there, so I must assume it's the truth...
Also, I have an edit on that post striking wahtever was out of line there. Fight that if you wish. I'll PM you all my company info if you wish to prosecute us.

Raoul Duke

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Post all his info on the Bitcoin Shitlist.

I'll deal with him if he wants it removed Wink

Just refrain from posting his dad's info, but post all his other online ID's.

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Quote from: BurtW on March 21, 2012, 02:57:53 PM

Do you remember anyting about it? Country? City?

IIRC, I believe it was in England or at least somewhere in the UK, but I am not 100% sure.

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Do you remember anyting about it? Country? City?

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Quote from: BurtW on March 20, 2012, 03:13:30 PM

Vitaliy,

Patrick was a bit confused. Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one. So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge. It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address.

Thanks!

Unfortunately, his final PM to me on that matter was a request to "delete my shipping address and such also". This was sent before he started the false accusations, so I obliged.

The best thing I could think of to recover it would be to ask theymos if there is a history or log of deleted PMs.

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Quote from: Otoh on March 20, 2012, 05:22:26 PM

in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, ...

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Quote from: Kluge on March 20, 2012, 07:06:53 PM

Quote from: hongus on March 20, 2012, 07:02:30 PM

Quote from: Otoh on March 20, 2012, 05:22:26 PM

doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case

in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc

anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn

I think we don't just move on. We gotta rape the shit out of this guy. Make an example out of him and let people know that we rape people.

o.O

No. The motto in the Skype lending room is "Quickest Vulture Gets the Carcass" not "We gonna rape defaulters." That said, when I was going to sleep last night, I thought about cutting off the head of a dear for a Youtube video, then with me wearing the fresh-cut head, then sending that to all potential lendees to seem intimidating. I'm still considering it.

Any deer head raping? If yes, I approve

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Quote from: hongus on March 20, 2012, 07:02:30 PM

Quote from: Otoh on March 20, 2012, 05:22:26 PM

doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case

in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc

anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn

I think we don't just move on. We gotta rape the shit out of this guy. Make an example out of him and let people know that we rape people.

o.O

No. The motto in the Skype lending room is "Quickest Vulture Gets the Carcass" not "We gonna rape defaulters." That said, when I was going to sleep last night, I thought about cutting off the head of a dear for a Youtube video, then with me wearing the fresh-cut head, then sending that to all potential lendees to seem intimidating. I'm still considering it.

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Quote from: Otoh on March 20, 2012, 05:22:26 PM

doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case

in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc

anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn

I think we don't just move on. We gotta rape the shit out of this guy. Make an example out of him and let people know that we rape people.

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doesn't it all boil down to whether the info that you have on DI in rl is correct or not, he's a scammer so depending on how bright he is then a lot of that info may be just him doing identity theft & dissimulation, if you can establish his rl ID then I'd say he was doomed - a bunch of anons who know that for sure, so that there's no repercussions to them for whatever dastardly revenge they may plot & even execute, but after the fact looks too late to me to be sure of who an online person may be in rl when you're dealing with a con artist & it would be wrong to persecute whoever's ID he may be spoofing if that's the case

in future when lending over $1,500 or whatever it was, insist that the perp (sry - person) gets on Skype to live shows their mug, plus ID like driver's license/passport/ID card for screen shots, utility bill for 'know where you live', bank statement - this should not show -£1,000s btw, proof of work if the loan is to fund an event etc

anyway, horse's (BTC) bolted - live n' learn

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Quote from: hongus on March 20, 2012, 04:52:29 PM

Quote from: Kluge on March 20, 2012, 03:54:43 PM

Quote from: BurtW on March 20, 2012, 03:13:30 PM

Quote from: PatrickHarnett on March 20, 2012, 01:57:02 PM

Quote from: ForceField on March 20, 2012, 10:05:06 AM

I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-looking-to-buy-1-4-cards-for-a-mining-rig-for-my-girlfriend-60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history. And the search function isn't especially useful. Thank you for point it out. Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him).

Vitaliy,

Patrick was a bit confused. Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one. So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge. It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address.

Thanks!

I am no longer heading up the collections. I can turn over the letter written up along with all collected info. DI's dad hasn't replied to my contact requests, and some of the collected information is no longer valid. So, I don't want to send sensitive information to the address we have for him. There's now question whether or not "DI" is "DI," and I've been unable to verify DI's dad is DI's dad.

Can't you just release his sensitive information to the public? I mean this guy did scam a shitton of money from you guys.

I could, but I will not. Another DI who is the "real" DI claims his identity is being stolen. I'm about 80% certain BTCTalk DI is the "real" DI, but that's enough to make me uncomfortable. I am willing to turn over the information to another lender and their standards for dox'ing someone can be whatever they like.

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Quote from: Kluge on March 20, 2012, 03:54:43 PM

Quote from: BurtW on March 20, 2012, 03:13:30 PM

Quote from: PatrickHarnett on March 20, 2012, 01:57:02 PM

Quote from: ForceField on March 20, 2012, 10:05:06 AM

I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-looking-to-buy-1-4-cards-for-a-mining-rig-for-my-girlfriend-60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history. And the search function isn't especially useful. Thank you for point it out. Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him).

Vitaliy,

Patrick was a bit confused. Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one. So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge. It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address.

Thanks!

I am no longer heading up the collections. I can turn over the letter written up along with all collected info. DI's dad hasn't replied to my contact requests, and some of the collected information is no longer valid. So, I don't want to send sensitive information to the address we have for him. There's now question whether or not "DI" is "DI," and I've been unable to verify DI's dad is DI's dad.

Can't you just release his sensitive information to the public? I mean this guy did scam a shitton of money from you guys.

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Quote from: BurtW on March 20, 2012, 03:13:30 PM

Quote from: PatrickHarnett on March 20, 2012, 01:57:02 PM

Quote from: ForceField on March 20, 2012, 10:05:06 AM

I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-looking-to-buy-1-4-cards-for-a-mining-rig-for-my-girlfriend-60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history. And the search function isn't especially useful. Thank you for point it out. Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him).

Vitaliy,

Patrick was a bit confused. Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one. So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge. It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address.

Thanks!

I am no longer heading up the collections. I can turn over the letter written up along with all collected info. DI's dad hasn't replied to my contact requests, and some of the collected information is no longer valid. So, I don't want to send sensitive information to the address we have for him. There's now question whether or not "DI" is "DI," and I've been unable to verify DI's dad is DI's dad.

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Sorry, must be me being a starfish and all.

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Quote from: PatrickHarnett on March 20, 2012, 01:57:02 PM

Quote from: ForceField on March 20, 2012, 10:05:06 AM

I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-looking-to-buy-1-4-cards-for-a-mining-rig-for-my-girlfriend-60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history. And the search function isn't especially useful. Thank you for point it out. Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him).

Vitaliy,

Patrick was a bit confused. Kluge is in charge of this collection thread, I am in charge of a different one. So, when you get a chance could you please PM the delivery address you have to Kluge. It would help us greatly to verify we have the correct address.

Thanks!

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