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Topic: [LOCKED] DoubleIcaras/Alexander Adams Collections Thread - page 2. (Read 4526 times)

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I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-looking-to-buy-1-4-cards-for-a-mining-rig-for-my-girlfriend-60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.

Not a case of not bothering to read, but I didn't read all 228 posts of his history.  And the search function isn't especially useful.  Thank you for point it out.  Presumably the delivery address will match the one Burt has (you might want to pm him).
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I am wondering if anyone who had given a loan to DoubleIcaras even bothered reading this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-looking-to-buy-1-4-cards-for-a-mining-rig-for-my-girlfriend-60181

He tried to scam me and after it didn't work and I tried to expose his attempt, he started making false accusations - it would have been more than obvious to anyone who had read that thread that he was a scammer, or at the very least, untrustworthy.
donator
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Did you go onto http://www.intelius.com/?

I think it gets family members, and gets their contact info.
Looks to be geared toward US residents, and if it's like many similar sites, only acts to charge for public information.
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Did you go onto http://www.intelius.com/?

I think it gets family members, and gets their contact info.
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5 days since the last post. Any updates?

No. His father isn't responding to contact requests and some of the contact information on him is invalid. Without knowing his father *is* his father, and without knowing for sure where he lives, I'm not willing to send sensitive information to the address I have, especially not with everyone's real name on the letter.

If another lender would like to take this up, I'll gladly turn over the written-up document and all information on DI & alleged father I have.
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5 days since the last post. Any updates?
legendary
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Yep, it's the same guy. Seems he saw this thread about him and wondered if he could make a run about it. No chance! Grin
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I also noticed an Icarus (same avatar) also knowledgeable about bitcoins on a similar/related gaming web site.
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There is now another DI responding on the Internet claiming he is being cyber-stalked by someone seeking to ruin his videogame handle's reputation.

This strikes me as odd for a couple reasons:
1) BTCTalk ("fake") DI changed his avatar to something generic after it became obvious he wasn't going to repay. Before, he was using the same avatar as is used by the so-claimed "real" DI. If DI wanted to make a fuss over the "real" DI, why would "fake" DI not use an identifying avatar?

2) Everywhere, users of the handle "DoubleIcaras" claim to live in the Bedfordshire area of the UK, which corresponds to the IP addresses of "fake" DI collected by forum admin. "Real" DI's alleged stalker lives near him, and his chosen venue of harassment is months-long loans he defaulted on, then gave an excuse for?


I do believe that's a sign of getting somewhere.  Smiley
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ETA: Removed. Was operating on old information.

Evidence suggests someone with the name "Alex" who wears near-identical glasses as Alex and has similar (or perhaps identical, depending on lighting variables) recently purchased drugs from Silk Road and is trying them out -- the link was found on DI's FB page. This was about a month ago, after he'd already have our money, but there's enough time for a SR seller to've already shipped him his purchase.
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Admin confirmed DI's IP address originates from the UK. No response to email to personal address. Sending to work address tonight. Tomorrow, phone call, possibly letter.
That's a relief to hear as we can be more assured that he is probably not using any proxies; hence he might be the same person under the username quite possibly.
What's his email provider? Is it one of those free email providers?
Personal email is free. Work email isn't. I'm going to wait until the very end of the day to send to his work email, as I consider that public. For reference, I'm still trying his dad. Contact requests to DI have come everywhere from Skype info I found to another person trying a forum he admin'd (which has since shut down).
legendary
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Admin confirmed DI's IP address originates from the UK. No response to email to personal address. Sending to work address tonight. Tomorrow, phone call, possibly letter.
That's a relief to hear as we can be more assured that he is probably not using any proxies; hence he might be the same person under the username quite possibly.
What's his email provider? Is it one of those free email providers?
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Admin confirmed DI's IP address originates from the UK. No response to email to personal address. Sending to work address tonight. Tomorrow, phone call, possibly letter.
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You're better than Steve Jobs, sometimes.  Grin

Make no mistake, I didn't make it. I'm just on-board as an adviser.

I am pretty proud of our extensive 2012 DCAO lineup though. We've got enough projects to keep Bitcoin busy for 5 years.

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One of our DCAO colleagues is working on a new system (it will be advertised in the Bitcoin Magazine actually) for a new secure and smart system for loans. You guys will love it.
Unless there's something totally revolutionary never done before in the new proposed system,
It's exactly that! Can't wait till it's announced formally.
You're better than Steve Jobs, sometimes.  Grin

I'll start checking my mailbox better to ensure I didn't miss my copy. Starting to become too exciting. Wink
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One of our DCAO colleagues is working on a new system (it will be advertised in the Bitcoin Magazine actually) for a new secure and smart system for loans. You guys will love it.
Unless there's something totally revolutionary never done before in the new proposed system,

It's exactly that! Can't wait till it's announced formally.
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Question. Who is DoubleIcaras, what did they do, and why does it seem like everyone on this forum falls for this shit every week?
You can read through the link in the OP if you're really curious. He was supposed to host an event raising awareness for Bitcoin in London. He sold t-shirts (which were apparently never delivered), accepted donations, and took out loans.

This seems to happen every week because we lenders seem to often make the mistake of thinking smaller loans do not require the same effort in IDing the person and demanding to know how the BTC will be paid back as we would with larger loans.

Both Pat & I (haven't heard from others) seem to be @ ~10% default rate (with regards to # of loans, if weighted for amount loans made for, probably much lower), and AFAIK (it's true for myself, at least), they're all for relatively small loans, never large single loans. Seems there's a strong correlation there and we're dropping the ball by thinking smaller lendees have a stronger right to privacy, or perhaps we're thinking we have a right to be lazy.

Oh that person who claimed he would remake the money back from standing outside shouting about bitcoin? Yea, I don't know what anyone would trust such a scam. How was he supposed to make money anyway? Selling bitcoins?

As for the lenders, sounds like being lazy tbh.

One of our DCAO colleagues is working on a new system (it will be advertised in the Bitcoin Magazine actually) for a new secure and smart system for loans. You guys will love it.
Dollartrader has an interesting system already up, just not public, afaik. It'd make a solid attempt at verifying a person by sending a post-card to their claimed address with a code via mail. They then enter that code into their account page, and are marked as verified. Other than that, the site has a rating system, with a page for everyone, and an easier way of taking loans out and advertising them than the forum.

Otherwise, we already have lists of defaulters, but it's useless with so many unproven people requesting a loan, and that's just a lack of self-discipline on our part to give out loans to relatively unproven people. People fake pay stubs, their pictures, addresses, identity, take out "confidence loans" and repay, etc. Unless there's something totally revolutionary never done before in the new proposed system, we'll still just end up needing to turn away those without a lot of rep, I suppose. I'm hoping the free escrow service I'm offering will help convince new sellers to pop up and get involved so they'll be accepted when they request new loans.
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Question. Who is DoubleIcaras, what did they do, and why does it seem like everyone on this forum falls for this shit every week?
You can read through the link in the OP if you're really curious. He was supposed to host an event raising awareness for Bitcoin in London. He sold t-shirts (which were apparently never delivered), accepted donations, and took out loans.

This seems to happen every week because we lenders seem to often make the mistake of thinking smaller loans do not require the same effort in IDing the person and demanding to know how the BTC will be paid back as we would with larger loans.

Both Pat & I (haven't heard from others) seem to be @ ~10% default rate (with regards to # of loans, if weighted for amount loans made for, probably much lower), and AFAIK (it's true for myself, at least), they're all for relatively small loans, never large single loans. Seems there's a strong correlation there and we're dropping the ball by thinking smaller lendees have a stronger right to privacy, or perhaps we're thinking we have a right to be lazy.

Oh that person who claimed he would remake the money back from standing outside shouting about bitcoin? Yea, I don't know what anyone would trust such a scam. How was he supposed to make money anyway? Selling bitcoins?

As for the lenders, sounds like being lazy tbh.

One of our DCAO colleagues is working on a new system (it will be advertised in the Bitcoin Magazine actually) for a new secure and smart system for loans. You guys will love it.
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1015
Question. Who is DoubleIcaras, what did they do, and why does it seem like everyone on this forum falls for this shit every week?
You can read through the link in the OP if you're really curious. He was supposed to host an event raising awareness for Bitcoin in London. He sold t-shirts (which were apparently never delivered), accepted donations, and took out loans.

This seems to happen every week because we lenders seem to often make the mistake of thinking smaller loans do not require the same effort in IDing the person and demanding to know how the BTC will be paid back as we would with larger loans.

Both Pat & I (haven't heard from others) seem to be @ ~10% default rate (with regards to # of loans, if weighted for amount loans made for, probably much lower), and AFAIK (it's true for myself, at least), they're all for relatively small loans, never large single loans. Seems there's a strong correlation there and we're dropping the ball by thinking smaller lendees have a stronger right to privacy, or perhaps we're thinking we have a right to be lazy.
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Question. Who is DoubleIcaras, what did they do, and why does it seem like everyone on this forum falls for this shit every week?
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