Topic: Logic of some gamblers against math (Read 518 times)

When you mention a substantial amount, it's necessary to be specific. Without a defined target, you're akin to sailing a boat without direction. This aspect must be considered to ensure sustained profitability. Greediness often leads people to violate their own rules. For instance, $1000 may seem like a sufficient amount before the game, but during a winning streak, the desire for more might prompt you to take greater risks.

However, luck is transient, and there's a possibility of losing your winnings. This is when self-reflection becomes crucial, as losing control could become a reality.

Based on my own experiences mate ,  better to stand from the table once you hit a good amount because trust me the longer to stayed there is the bigger you will lose again those amount , why not stand for a while and come back tomorrow that just trying to drain your luck? this is why many gamblers goes home a loser because of greediness.

That's following the old saying strike while the iron is hot, but it does not apply to gamble in gambling once you win a big amount, and you continue to play there's a tendency that you will lose because you are focused on trying hard to recover your losses and winning more.

We all know that gambling is a game of luck and when you're looking for luck most of the time it will not favor you, the house edge will always beat you, and you can only continue playing if you're here to have fun and don't care about your losses, because the house edge will always play out.

In gambling, you need to know your limitations, and you need to moderate your greed, never think that it's your lucky day and you can play all the way and recover all your losses, many have tried and lost their winnings.

Forget about math , instead look for greed  

Those people are mostly the kind of person that sees gambling as opportunity to become rich in an instant , and mostly a lazy kind of person that hates having Daily Job but loves sitting in the table seeking for luck .

Jackpot is only comes ones in a million , but gamblers mostly believe they are the one   ending? they keep looking for bigger and bigger winning.
if we know how to handle this then we will be safe in gambling.

I have always thought that every casino game has to have a lot of mathematics, formulas and a lot of logic. In addition , we can do Several things that have to do with mathematical modeling and that can be related to game theory and everything that has to do with it. with the random, that is why when we focus on trying to make any movement of money , because things Happen in a more difficult way, since I was in the U, I have tried to look for all the patterns in the roulette wheels, to see which bet can be the most winning, in this order of ideas I tell myself that it is something very difficult , and almost impossible, but not Impossible, because randomness is the factor that Always makes us lose or win, in In the case that we look for schemes or patterns, what is Random makes us lose and what we do without thinking becomes Random , and that is something that is very difficult to determine.

From what I have seen, the casinos are Quite Jealous with their Machines , I don't know if it is Provably Fair and for anything that has to do with it , the casinos are Practically very jealous in that regard and the Provably Fair determines a lot of what they It has to do with the legality of the casinos and it is also very Accepted by the players , for everything it represents , I have seen many threads here in the forum that say that they already beat the Probably Fair, which is something that does not have sense, but things are like that, there are many people who are always looking for a way to win whatever it takes, but I think that when Things are done to be Able to win, it is something that algorithms do to try to read what the system does, and what The seed and everything it has in its technical part is what gives Confidence, this is something that not Everyone knows but between that and Google's random system, it can be done that the Greatest Acceptance is there, that is why we We must consider all this before playing.

For me it makes a lot of sense to Know the mathematics applied to games of chance , and with respect to the random factor it is Quite difficult to win when it comes out, and what is not Known is that this random factor is Present at any moment of the Game.

My opinion in this post was the math may be considered as probability.Correct me,if I was wrong in the assumption.But the previous post also stated the math as the probability in the gambling,we know probability was the concept of mathematics.The gamblers mostly get the greedy and it was no limit to the gamblers.This was the main reason for the gamblers to loss the money after the big win in the gambling site.The gambler should wait for the certain period after the continuous win in the gambling,playing for longer duration will leads to big losses in the gambling site.


The gambling had the probability of winning and losing in the equal level.But most of the gamblers fail to crack the algorithm of the gambling site may leads to the loss of money at the initial stage of the game.The gamblers who loss at the starting stage will not back to the gambling again.

I don't know what you mean by math, but I see he's just trying his luck hoping for a bigger win. Of course, if you gamble like this you will keep losing because you can't control when you win, in other words we have become greedy.

Because believe it or not, if you play gambling there are no consecutive wins even though the percentage is very small, the winning algorithm is like that, if you have won it will be difficult to win again unless you move to another game. . The only advice is that if you have won, you should stop for a moment and continue again later because if you follow your desires by doubling your winnings you will regret it if you lose.

Gamblers are believers. Sadly they are not believers of math. They are believers of luck. The little they know though, luck is also based on math... The whole point of gambling is to see if you are lucky in that particular moment. Math people and luck people (gamblers) see this event differently. Math people know that you can be lucky if you play once or twice and get away with it while gamblers (luck believers) think they can keep getting lucky if they keep playing. The house edge ensures the profits for the casino in the long run, so luck believers will always get poorer and poorer while math believers won't.

That's right, the chance of luck is very low when it comes to gambling. There are also people who really hope to win again once they win, you can't take that away from a gambler but you must still control yourself, you must know when to stop. The others are losing their self-discipline, they forget their responsibility as gamblers, so winning ends up in tears.

I know the law of gravity but what is the law of mathematics regarding luck?  Did you mean probability?

Strange but it make sense, let say you bet $1 and hit 100x so the reward will be $100 and you decided to continue because you felt the luck factor so I won't be surprised if you did repeat $1 bet 10 times or 20 times even after the continuous bust, it doesn't make any sense if they lose 99 times and believe that remaining 1 will give another 100x.

Odds are variable and unknown in many games, its why some prefer to calculate precisely in card games that were being played a hundred years ago or more.   Some games the amount of luck required to win can be external to any one user, it can be the machine itself will pay out by its own determinations.  I think I do prefer the known odds in as much as they are variable but the game so well played that its easier to state the outcome on average over a hundred tries.  It really depends what people prefer to play and how,  I've done well on slots but now I think back Im not sure how I pulled it off especially except I played fairly low in my bets but many spins and tried to cash out each day when ahead so that I may come back.  Others want to press the luck till it breaks then walk, its hard to know when for sure.

Your point emphasizes gambling's unpredictability and hazards. In our world, luck rules and certainty is an illusion. Despite this, gamblers often believe they can beat the system. It's a psychological trap - "beating the odds" is appealing but unlikely. We must acknowledge this.

A friend, an enthusiastic gambler, thought he had perfected betting. He kept betting after losing, believing his strategy was good. He was riding chance, but reality was cruel. His example shows that gambling, especially with debts, is risky. Leisure activities should be done with money you can lose.

Gambling to recover losses is risky, especially with borrowed money. A spiral of loss and desperation typically results. Gamblers must accept this fact and bet wisely, acknowledging luck and our boundaries.

They are not thinking about the Math here actually, they are more focus with their emotion and thinking about the luck after wining. Gamblers can be very greedy after winning and that’s normal. Who will think about Math in that situation? Not unless you have you strategy in the first place then this is possible. If you are going to gamble and will able to get big win, make sure that you have your exit plan and know how to secure some profit.

People are often seeing, I have x and the higher the multiplier means I could have x multiplied by y. It is driven by pure greed, let's be frank, and is what keeps casino and bookmakers in business. Everyone tries to beat the bookmaker, but it's one of the oldest professions around and with a bit of basic knowledge can be very profitable. A lot of gamblers also aren't interested in the math or may simply not be able to comprehend the magnitude of odds against them. It's why parlays/multibets are so profitable, because not only do bookmakers knock down the odds but string together multiple high odds makes the chances a player will lose exponentially higher. So yes, everyone should try to refine and understand the basic math involved in games.

You say the simple right things. And your arguments are logical. But there is a big problem for some people that does not allow them to understand this. Some people turn off rational thinking when they lose money or win money. Both can lead to problems. If a person could control himself, he would take the money and leave instead of losing every penny

Doesn't it look like they're swaying with chance and choice? We don't understand why they chase losses when the math behind gambling is so harsh.  It's more than just being content and having a big win. A deeper psychic journey happens. Players have to deal with cognitive errors and the odds. The gambler's fallacy, which says that chance events in the past can change what will happen in the future, is a common mistake. They want more than just a win; they want proof that they can beat the odds

Our view on gambling needs to be more nuanced. What we call it is harmful, but isn't it more complicated? Yes, both desire and failure can be bad, and the math behind gambling means that you can't help but lose. But realizing this is the first step toward a better way of doing things. You said that smart gambling needs balance and knowing yourself. It means knowing when to stop, being aware of the risks, and being okay with both wins and loses. Along with gambling, it teaches you how to deal with risks, set realistic goals, and enjoy the trip

I have seen many youtubers and streamers that if they win one time they win more often I don't know why but maybe they are lucky enough to win every game or most of the time.
It can happen sometimes but we do not need to play more thinking it is my lucky day, it takes just minutes for casino to make your lucky day into unluckiest day of the life.
so I just secure my profits after a big win but it happens with me very less I just lose and always lose.

To understand this more better, mathematics is needed in gambling but not necessarily the reason behind why any gambler should make winning, when we are gambling, we also needs to have some mathematical reasonings to have in mind and use for the best of our own interest, this will aid the performance on what we make as decisions on some particular games we are playing, this is more of having a logical reasoning ability and not directly the applicable use of mathematical functions in gambling, most happens subconsciously.

Gamblers who are addicted to gambling only think about gambling. They don't care about mathematics because they care about how they can place bets with their money and win.
But when they win from gambling and win, they don't want to stop gambling but even more want to get another win even though they already know that they won't necessarily be able to win again in the next game or round.
Maybe if they lose at gambling, they will think they can win in the next game.
And that's why many gamblers don't immediately cash out their winnings. They still want another win, so they just keep gambling until they get another win. But it won't be as easy as they imagine.

Your approach is good and can save a lot of gamblers, but if they are truly in for the game, I don't see a reason why they should be often quick to withdraw their profits simply because they gained. What I expect from every gambler is to have their budgets and plans around their calculative way of playing their games. Discipline and determination are also needed here. It would be very unwise for you to believe that withdrawing some part of the money has totally prevented you from making mistakes of overplaying. I have seen cases where the gambler will win and withdraw almost the money in the account, but this same person will still come back again to play more, and after losing the little money left, they keep depositing more money and also paying transaction fees. Why not keep the money there and save yourself the stress?

So, there is no perfect way to go about gambling, but for gamblers to know what they are doing and ensure that they are not addicted or acting based on emotions. The best in gambling is for us to, even before starting, know what it takes to be a responsible gambler and to also know what to do that will help us and what to do that will affect us negatively. To crown it all, a very good managerial approach to gambling might be the way out in this regard and that entails the management of the account of the gambler and also the management of his psychology as well. They should be enough to stabilize the issue and make sure that the gambler does as they plan to do, which is why planning beforehand is very important in this regard.