lol: blockchain - yes; bitcoin - no - page 3.

lorylore

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1002

Quote from: BitUsher on July 20, 2015, 05:32:37 PM

Quote from: lorylore on July 20, 2015, 05:26:52 PM

It is just me or to everyone here, blockchain is working good? I got a payment fast really fast confirmation !!!

All my tx are fine as well.
95% of the complaints are likely troll or shill accounts. Seems to be getting worse lately on this forum.

Well yes, i have seen many posts here that their transactions were stuck (hold/pending) without any confirmation.

BitUsher

legendary

Activity: 994

Merit: 1035

Quote from: lorylore on July 20, 2015, 05:26:52 PM

It is just me or to everyone here, blockchain is working good? I got a payment fast really fast confirmation !!!

All my tx are fine as well.
95% of the complaints are likely troll or shill accounts. Seems to be getting worse lately on this forum.

lorylore

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1002

It is just me or to everyone here, blockchain is working good? I got a payment fast really fast confirmation !!!

BitUsher

legendary

Activity: 994

Merit: 1035

Quote from: errornone on July 20, 2015, 10:29:17 AM

im just a curious user, trying to understand both coins and if you have a better alt, why you shouldnt or should change to it!! jesus, open your mind to discussion.

The discussion is fine, but you seem to be under the impression that it isn't rude to derail a thread and spam an alt in the wrong section of this forum. Look above and you will see this section is called "Bitcoin Discussion"

You should be discussing Monero in these sections :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=160.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=161.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=197.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=198.0

Most of us do read over those sections as well.

The sad thing is I was starting to get interested in Monero before all of the spam and now I don't want to touch it or any competing privacy coin because of all the infighting and desperation with spam as of late that reaks as a pump and dump attempt and makes me more cautious. Any proponent of an alt would be wise not to offend others by doing what you are doing.

LiteCoinGuy

legendary

Activity: 1148

Merit: 1014

In Satoshi I Trust

Why Bitcoin and Blockchain Tech are Tied at the Hip

https://medium.com/@ryanshea/why-bitcoin-and-blockchain-tech-are-tied-at-the-hip-df1e6e33e2b6

errornone

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

error

Quote from: BitUsher on July 20, 2015, 10:21:23 AM

Quote from: errornone on July 20, 2015, 08:57:10 AM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on July 15, 2015, 02:56:16 PM

They can make an altcoin and voila, they'll have a blockchain.
But there's no stronger blockchain than Bitcoin's. And if that's advertised enough, organizations will come for the blockchain and will have to use bitcoin for that.

why bitcoin blockchain is safer than monero blockchain?

What is with all this Monero spam lately? Do they not understand that it makes us not want to touch it as it reflects a sense of desperation? Makes me even consider that it may be shills funded from competing privacy coins attempting to piss everyone off.

im just a curious user, trying to understand both coins and if you have a better alt, why you shouldnt or should change to it!! jesus, open your mind to discussion.

BitUsher

legendary

Activity: 994

Merit: 1035

Quote from: errornone on July 20, 2015, 10:22:30 AM

no, i just asking rational questions. If montero is better in every way than bitcoin, how can you know that "tomorrow" everyone will start to mine montero insted of bitcoins? you cant know this..

Monero isn't better than bitcoin in every way, and is far worse than bitcoin in the most important ways(investment, merchant adoption, user adoption, development, security, ect..)

Of course we can never know where any alt will be in 20 years , but we can know where it will be in 5-10 years because the market has priced their winner in as being bitcoin. All that VC funding and ASIC investment in infrastructure is undeniable and is evidence reflecting the momentum.

Please stop derailing this thread and post in the appropriate section.

errornone

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

error

Quote from: Lauda on July 20, 2015, 10:04:44 AM

Quote from: errornone on July 20, 2015, 09:54:03 AM

only because it has more users NOW. but in the future...

In the future it is definitely going to have a lot more hashing power than all others coins combined. What's your point exactly? Most people who preach that Bitcoin is going to be replaced in the near or far future are the ones that have most likely missed the initial profit chance.
If you had bought Bitcoin in 2012 or sooner you would be running around and yelling :"Bitcoin!". Wink

no, i just asking rational questions. If montero is better in every way than bitcoin, how can you know that "tomorrow" everyone will start to mine montero insted of bitcoins? you cant know this..

BitUsher

legendary

Activity: 994

Merit: 1035

Quote from: errornone on July 20, 2015, 08:57:10 AM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on July 15, 2015, 02:56:16 PM

They can make an altcoin and voila, they'll have a blockchain.
But there's no stronger blockchain than Bitcoin's. And if that's advertised enough, organizations will come for the blockchain and will have to use bitcoin for that.

why bitcoin blockchain is safer than monero blockchain?

What is with all this Monero spam lately? Do they not understand that it makes us not want to touch it as it reflects a sense of desperation? Makes me even consider that it may be shills funded from competing privacy coins attempting to piss everyone off.

Lauda

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 2965

Terminated.

Quote from: errornone on July 20, 2015, 09:54:03 AM

only because it has more users NOW. but in the future...

In the future it is definitely going to have a lot more hashing power than all others coins combined. What's your point exactly? Most people who preach that Bitcoin is going to be replaced in the near or far future are the ones that have most likely missed the initial profit chance.
If you had bought Bitcoin in 2012 or sooner you would be running around and yelling :"Bitcoin!". Wink

errornone

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

error

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: errornone on July 20, 2015, 08:57:10 AM

Quote from: NeuroticFish on July 15, 2015, 02:56:16 PM

They can make an altcoin and voila, they'll have a blockchain.
But there's no stronger blockchain than Bitcoin's. And if that's advertised enough, organizations will come for the blockchain and will have to use bitcoin for that.

why bitcoin blockchain is safer than monero blockchain?

The network security behind bitcoin is 360,540,831.57 GH/s, that is a lot more than monero and that is why it is safer.

only because it has more users NOW. but in the future...

BitUsher

legendary

Activity: 994

Merit: 1035

Another new discussion on this topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLFrgugC88Y

I will stick to Fiat if I want to have regulation and KYC. Bitcoin has better security because it gives consumers the choice of transparency or privacy. No corporate coin or government coin will offer that as they will insist on KYC and backdoors.

oblivi

hero member

Activity: 700

Merit: 501

Quote from: Possum577 on July 15, 2015, 05:13:19 PM

Ah, this is OK. Try not to take offense. They don't mean that Bitcoin must go away, they're just only interested in the blockchain technology for their endeavor.

Think about it. You have some business, you realize that blockchain technology can increase processing time, confidence in accuracy of transactions or processing, reduce risk, save you money, earn you money and you think "Yes, this blockchain technology is GREAT!" That's not a knock to Bitcoin, it's praise of Bitcoin.

There's all sorts of ways to apply this great new technology to the business world and Bitcoin will always be the project that started it.

Bitcoin will also (hopefully) remain as an alternative currency, and that'll will be determined by a community of people using Bitcoin and governments deciding not to outlaw it.

This further legitimizes Bitcoin - it's not some "internet video game currency", it's sophisticated, useful, and backed by something that is really, really ingenious.

Nope, they are getting it wrong. Thankfully, Andreas Antonopoulous addressed their bullshit on this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0mykANOMGQ

Watch the entire thing, it's about halfway. This video should be posted everytime this "blockchain yes and bitcoin no" is brought up. If you think you can split Bitcoin from blockchain you just don't get it. All companies that do that will end up bankrupt.

errornone

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

error

Quote from: NeuroticFish on July 15, 2015, 02:56:16 PM

They can make an altcoin and voila, they'll have a blockchain.
But there's no stronger blockchain than Bitcoin's. And if that's advertised enough, organizations will come for the blockchain and will have to use bitcoin for that.

why bitcoin blockchain is safer than monero blockchain?

goosoodude

hero member

Activity: 584

Merit: 500

Like some already wrote, they don't want to use "our" blockchain. They only want to adapt the tech behind. For sure their blockchain won't be as secure as ours though.

Though maybe, while playing with it, they will find that the bitcoin blockchain has some advantages they will use.

lorylore

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1002

Quote from: wadili89 on July 15, 2015, 07:14:57 PM

Quote from: lorylore on July 15, 2015, 05:54:28 PM

Well blockchain i dont like it, i like bitcoin but i hate blockchain, some unconfirmed transaction etc...

which is not true or i disagree i have tried may wallets computer and mobile both and blockchain works the best amoung all its very lite even with slow internet connection it works great and dont ask for any kind of documents like some other wallets and about the transactions this is just now ofcourse it is not gonna stay like this

Well i know that blockchain is the heart of the bitcoin, but i meant another thing anyway ok.

Amph

legendary

Activity: 3248

Merit: 1070

they can't get it about early adopters, i think, that they think they will enrich only those people if they start to accept bitcoin too, this is one of the big problem of bitcoin, few people controlling 100k-200k coin is not healthy at all

their centralized altcoin is the worst thing ever and will never work, look at the altsection it's a dead place, and they are not centralized, imagines now the same thing but heavy centralized, it will end like ripple, useless..

pooya87

legendary

Activity: 3472

Merit: 10611

well what bitcoin introduced to the world with its technology was a brilliant thing . so everybody wants to use its technology for their own purposes.

there are a lot of groups interested in blockchain technology and working on it. the last thing that i have heard was that NewYork bank financial group that was working on their own project using bitcoin blockchain technology.

but they are all just altcoins with separate blockchains and none of them could compete with bitcoin and come even close to it in the long run.

Kprawn

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1074

Some people do not want to use the Blockchain for it's currency feature... Let's not forget the blockchain is one big ledger system for all things.

Example : If you want to keep record of all traffic licences, you could use your own version of the blockchain to do just that. This blockchain will not get spammed by other transactions, but it will still be

accessable by everone for transparancy. {They could include write functions for employees and read functions for everone else}

Bitcoin {currency} are currently mixed with other features, and it's a bit of a mess and it's bulky... Companies see the potential in the technology, but they do not want all the transactions not based on

their business model. Wink

Ingatqhvq

hero member

Activity: 532

Merit: 500

Quote from: lorylore on July 15, 2015, 05:54:28 PM

Well blockchain i dont like it, i like bitcoin but i hate blockchain, some unconfirmed transaction etc...

Blockchain is the basic technology of bitcoin, you can't split block chain form bitcoin.
And bitcoin's blockchain is not the only blockchain.

Topic: lol: blockchain - yes; bitcoin - no - page 3. (Read 3152 times)