Long term Crypto winning strategies - page 3.

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Quote from: Fondarchand on December 25, 2022, 10:06:02 AM

Invest according to your fund and do not invest too much in just a single coin as you know that whenever the situation become against your your thoughts then it is alarming for you to get rid of your money. Just make a plan and invest accordingly, put cash in more than a single coin. Buy during this down market and keep holding for several months then it will improve your success.

That "plan" is what OP is trying to ask.

Trading in concrete is about buying things cheap and selling them for higher so yeah it' kind of true that you find the potentially good coins during the bear run and sell the off during the bull market.

One common strategy I use is short selling overhyped coins during the bull run. Basically you need to spot the coins that are in green suddenly and don't have a solid product to back the price and just short sell those coins and once the price drops, buy them and repay at cheaper price Wink

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As an investor, i think you need to know also something about trading too. Otherwise, you will lose to traders. Good market movement knowledge will also help.
I don't like to just buy and hold. My main goal would be to increase the assets, not the funds. So to do that, specially in a bear market situation like this, is to DCA. Dollar cost averaging. This can help to smooth out the impact of price fluctuations and reduce the risk of buying at the top of a market cycle.
I will DCA on altcoins if they show some potential. And on the other hand, as a long term investment, I will choose BTC.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on December 25, 2022, 11:18:05 AM

I believe that no strategy works the second time. Everything that works is just pure luck and good calculations. If your calculation and predictions are good, then definitely you can minimise the risk.

A strategy needs to be updated so that it can work all the time but you must still need to go for stoploss and technically derived target level so that a strategy will be working forever or else you can exit at small loss. The reason for having stoploss level in your trade is that no strategy is perfect against market fluctuations. So, with stoploss function, we can believe into all strategy all the times given that time to time posses are happening as well.

The simple trick here we need to consider is, stoploss should be half of what we are having as target level so that we can manage the losses at minimum against profitable trades.

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On the one hand, a crypt for me is an investment option for a short period, but there are quite a few nuances in terms of work and the market is dynamic. But at the same time, if you successfully choose an investment strategy for a long period of time, you can also make great money.

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I believe that no strategy works the second time. Everything that works is just pure luck and good calculations. If your calculation and predictions are good, then definitely you can minimise the risk. Basically the strategy for long term investment should be, how we can minimise the risk involved. Forget about the profits, basically during long term trades, most traders think how they can stop losses. And at last select the coin which is solid and constant for long term of time. Usually Bitcoins are the ideal pick for these types of investments.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 26, 2022, 11:45:02 PM

The only reasonable investment is bitcoin, more so in the dips. But there is no logical reason to invest in altcoins and bag hold them for long term since they have no real potential. When all the altcoins get is pump and dumps, it is best to treat them as short term risky trades rather than long term investment you should buy and bag hold.

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

For cryptocurrencies, bitcoin is considered the safest option but not the most profitable. It depends on each person's preference, if you like safety, then bitcoin is the choice, but if you want high returns and can accept the risk, then altcoin is the choice. Not everyone should invest in bitcoin, the cryptocurrency market is highly diverse for everyone to choose from according to their preferences.

my take on this - though btc may not be profitable as compared to other alts, but with btc, you are sure that this top currency won't disappear without a warning. most new alts can easily be dumped by their respective devs. yes, you may gain huge if you entered and exited at the right time, but who knows when such timings will happen? only those coin owners or developers. this is why they are the ones pocketing their profits with their creations.
better be sure with your investments rather than gamble with these new alts.

Why not invest in both? I will still invest in bitcoin, and it will still make up the majority of my portfolio, I still invest in altcoins, but it will only be a small part, and if there is a risk, then it will be insignificant. To be profitable when investing in altcoins, just have a plan, accept a small profit, then I think it's still safe to play.

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Invest according to your fund and do not invest too much in just a single coin as you know that whenever the situation become against your your thoughts then it is alarming for you to get rid of your money. Just make a plan and invest accordingly, put cash in more than a single coin. Buy during this down market and keep holding for several months then it will improve your success.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on December 25, 2022, 05:16:00 AM

Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 24, 2022, 06:18:04 PM

Quote from: Rigon on December 24, 2022, 04:33:08 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 26, 2022, 11:45:02 PM

The only reasonable investment is bitcoin, more so in the dips. But there is no logical reason to invest in altcoins and bag hold them for long term since they have no real potential. When all the altcoins get is pump and dumps, it is best to treat them as short term risky trades rather than long term investment you should buy and bag hold.

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

For cryptocurrencies, bitcoin is considered the safest option but not the most profitable. It depends on each person's preference, if you like safety, then bitcoin is the choice, but if you want high returns and can accept the risk, then altcoin is the choice. Not everyone should invest in bitcoin, the cryptocurrency market is highly diverse for everyone to choose from according to their preferences.

I don't see where the safest point is in Bitcoin, as it is highly volatile and a lot of people can lose money in just a night. Once you invest in it, it has a high risk and a high return. I don't know what coins are going to mean, but if you look at bitcoin in the previous years, you'll see that the price of bitcoin keeps increasing over time and that it is also becoming more difficult to own one as the price is higher than in previous years. Altcoin is also a good investment, but again, it is volatile, and we are not sure which coin has a chance to get into ATH as the price of it is mostly dependent on bitcoin or ETH.

When it comes to long-term investment, Bitcoin will always be the best option. You don't have to apply any complex strategy but rather just buy during the dip and sell when the market recovers or when we reach our targer profit. Aside from Bitcoin, well-established coins like ETH and BNB are also good choices. It's risky to buy non-established altcoins if our purpose is a long-term investment because some altcoins are just profitable in a short-term run.

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Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 24, 2022, 06:18:04 PM

Quote from: Rigon on December 24, 2022, 04:33:08 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 26, 2022, 11:45:02 PM

The only reasonable investment is bitcoin, more so in the dips. But there is no logical reason to invest in altcoins and bag hold them for long term since they have no real potential. When all the altcoins get is pump and dumps, it is best to treat them as short term risky trades rather than long term investment you should buy and bag hold.

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

For cryptocurrencies, bitcoin is considered the safest option but not the most profitable. It depends on each person's preference, if you like safety, then bitcoin is the choice, but if you want high returns and can accept the risk, then altcoin is the choice. Not everyone should invest in bitcoin, the cryptocurrency market is highly diverse for everyone to choose from according to their preferences.

I don't see where the safest point is in Bitcoin, as it is highly volatile and a lot of people can lose money in just a night. Once you invest in it, it has a high risk and a high return. I don't know what coins are going to mean, but if you look at bitcoin in the previous years, you'll see that the price of bitcoin keeps increasing over time and that it is also becoming more difficult to own one as the price is higher than in previous years. Altcoin is also a good investment, but again, it is volatile, and we are not sure which coin has a chance to get into ATH as the price of it is mostly dependent on bitcoin or ETH.

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Quote from: NicNacCoin on December 24, 2022, 06:58:33 PM

People never want to take risks. They always want a safe haven. I have also seen many people become completely destitute by investing in ALT coins.

That is why they want a "safer" haven and that is bitcoin>altcoins.

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Even though investing in Bitcoin is not very profitable according to you, but investing in Bitcoin is very reliable.

As compared to altcoins, yes. There are other uncertainties in bitcoin too like buying price, government crackdown, exchanges getting hacked and all. Still we can be assured that the support of bitcoin being large we will not sure rock bottom prices before buying starts.

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But those who invested in some altcoins at the high end of the market and suffered losses in this dumping market are unlikely to recover later.

Not everyone understands this and they hope for big gains while the coin is hyped and then lament about losses in the bear market.

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Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 24, 2022, 06:18:04 PM

Quote from: Rigon on December 24, 2022, 04:33:08 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 26, 2022, 11:45:02 PM

The only reasonable investment is bitcoin, more so in the dips. But there is no logical reason to invest in altcoins and bag hold them for long term since they have no real potential. When all the altcoins get is pump and dumps, it is best to treat them as short term risky trades rather than long term investment you should buy and bag hold.

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

For cryptocurrencies, bitcoin is considered the safest option but not the most profitable. It depends on each person's preference, if you like safety, then bitcoin is the choice, but if you want high returns and can accept the risk, then altcoin is the choice. Not everyone should invest in bitcoin, the cryptocurrency market is highly diverse for everyone to choose from according to their preferences.

People never want to take risks. They always want a safe haven. I have also seen many people become completely destitute by investing in ALT coins. Even though investing in Bitcoin is not very profitable according to you, but investing in Bitcoin is very reliable. At present the market is dumping a lot, those who have invested from the high level market have the possibility of recovery even if they have to wait for a long time. But those who invested in some altcoins at the high end of the market and suffered losses in this dumping market are unlikely to recover later. So although investment in Bitcoin is less profitable, Bitcoin investment is very reliable.

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Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 24, 2022, 06:18:04 PM

Quote from: Rigon on December 24, 2022, 04:33:08 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 26, 2022, 11:45:02 PM

The only reasonable investment is bitcoin, more so in the dips. But there is no logical reason to invest in altcoins and bag hold them for long term since they have no real potential. When all the altcoins get is pump and dumps, it is best to treat them as short term risky trades rather than long term investment you should buy and bag hold.

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

For cryptocurrencies, bitcoin is considered the safest option but not the most profitable. It depends on each person's preference, if you like safety, then bitcoin is the choice, but if you want high returns and can accept the risk, then altcoin is the choice. Not everyone should invest in bitcoin, the cryptocurrency market is highly diverse for everyone to choose from according to their preferences.

my take on this - though btc may not be profitable as compared to other alts, but with btc, you are sure that this top currency won't disappear without a warning. most new alts can easily be dumped by their respective devs. yes, you may gain huge if you entered and exited at the right time, but who knows when such timings will happen? only those coin owners or developers. this is why they are the ones pocketing their profits with their creations.
better be sure with your investments rather than gamble with these new alts.

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Quote from: Rigon on December 24, 2022, 04:33:08 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 26, 2022, 11:45:02 PM

The only reasonable investment is bitcoin, more so in the dips. But there is no logical reason to invest in altcoins and bag hold them for long term since they have no real potential. When all the altcoins get is pump and dumps, it is best to treat them as short term risky trades rather than long term investment you should buy and bag hold.

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

For cryptocurrencies, bitcoin is considered the safest option but not the most profitable. It depends on each person's preference, if you like safety, then bitcoin is the choice, but if you want high returns and can accept the risk, then altcoin is the choice. Not everyone should invest in bitcoin, the cryptocurrency market is highly diverse for everyone to choose from according to their preferences.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 26, 2022, 11:45:02 PM

The only reasonable investment is bitcoin, more so in the dips. But there is no logical reason to invest in altcoins and bag hold them for long term since they have no real potential. When all the altcoins get is pump and dumps, it is best to treat them as short term risky trades rather than long term investment you should buy and bag hold.

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time converted to shitcoin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 09, 2022, 08:56:05 AM

Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on December 09, 2022, 02:27:53 AM

snip~... Buy dip and hodl for a long term so you can able to make huge profit.

Holding for 5 years, 10 years - that is the meaning of long-term. Yet, holding for too long guarantees nothing for a huge profit but for sure, we can get bigger rewards compared to short-term investors. But of course, it really matters the coins we choose to hold because not all of them are worthy, many of them are worthless and just a waste of time.

Bitcoin and Ethereum are good coins for the long term. We should not miss the opportunity we have today for this will somehow change someday.

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 09, 2022, 08:56:05 AM

Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on December 09, 2022, 02:27:53 AM

snip~... Buy dip and hodl for a long term so you can able to make huge profit.

Holding for 5 years, 10 years - that is the meaning of long-term. Yet, holding for too long guarantees nothing for a huge profit but for sure, we can get bigger rewards compared to short-term investors. But of course, it really matters the coins we choose to hold because not all of them are worthy, many of them are worthless and just a waste of time.

Bitcoin and Ethereum are good coins for the long term. We should not miss the opportunity we have today for this will somehow change someday.

Well yes, eventually Bitcoin may be the best investment, and ETH may be a not so safe investment, after the mioviemtnos that Buterin did it is something that I did not like at all, that means that he wants to continue being the agent controlled by the market, and in any ecosystem where control or decentralization exists, always for my personal criteria, that is useless, because a person who wants to control everything for me is harmful and Buterin has achieved that, that's why every time someone asks me What is the best investment or what I recommend you buy, I will always say Bitcoin, because for me it is the safest.

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Everything that I know in the long term implies having a lot of patience and a well-armored heart for all the casualties that can be experienced in Bitcoin, there are many factors that can be triggered and this would affect the markets a lot, among them, the drums of war, war between different nations, well those things can influence not only the Bitcoin market but also all speculative markets, for me that bitcoin drops in price is an opportunity that I have to make a very good purchase and take advantage of it, of course this as long as My financial situation allows it. Otherwise, have a lot of patience and wait when it goes up because that moment is the one that should be enjoyed the most.

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Quote from: sulendra12 on November 28, 2022, 01:05:39 PM

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 26, 2022, 10:58:54 PM

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Been doing it even though it's just a small amount with the money I can afford, but still looking at my portfolio I'm still proud with it.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 26, 2022, 10:58:54 PM

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

While BTC is just one coin to choose. But choosing "potential" altcoins especially during bear market is pretty difficult. Tons to choose from but they react differently with FTX collapse, you'd probably need little effort with your technical analysis and indicators in order to choose the right one for altcoins. Otherwise, just stick with Bitcoin during these days.

It’s hard to trust and invest into altcoins especially when the market is still bearish because aside from the fact that most of the altcoins cannot survive and die eventually while waiting for market recovery, even potential altcoins cannot give us guarantee if they will progress in the process. So to lessen the risk and make yourself stay at ease, just focus on bitcoin. You can only start to diversify your investments when you are already in profits with bitcoin.

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Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on December 09, 2022, 02:27:53 AM

snip~... Buy dip and hodl for a long term so you can able to make huge profit.

Holding for 5 years, 10 years - that is the meaning of long-term. Yet, holding for too long guarantees nothing for a huge profit but for sure, we can get bigger rewards compared to short-term investors. But of course, it really matters the coins we choose to hold because not all of them are worthy, many of them are worthless and just a waste of time.

Bitcoin and Ethereum are good coins for the long term. We should not miss the opportunity we have today for this will somehow change someday.

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Quote from: teosanru on December 09, 2022, 03:03:32 AM

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 26, 2022, 10:58:54 PM

Dear All

There are two bodies in crypto, Traders, and investors. Today's topic is for investors. Specially very longterm investors. There are investing strategies for everyone. Share your ones.

Most common and sometimes I adhere

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

so lets share your belives on strategies.

These very long term traders are generally just the big FIIs who have access to information which retail folks don't. These people generally just create groups of their own and manipulate the market to buy at the deeps and accumulate during bear markets. And they know how to pump the markets as well. Moreover the main thing is that they work in an ecosystem of media, social media, bankers etc. And all of them work as per their directions and help them in creating the wind that they want to about the market.

disagree, retail do have access to information, data from blockchain and other metrics are not expensive or difficult to find. retail would much rather follow scammers though, its their own fault. lets not place all the blame on whales; people are responsible for their own actions, nobody wants to be accountable, just rich quick

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Quote from: udayantha11 on December 08, 2022, 11:39:03 PM

Quote from: bitcoindata21 on December 08, 2022, 11:20:15 AM

I do trading aswell in the short term, but your question is regarding investing - i am first and foremost an investor.

My plan is to accumulate bitcoin as much as i can.

For the long term i look at macro liquidity and general stock market sentiment. I also look at certain onchain data for bitcoin that coincides with the 4 year cycle. Even with this decade being so different, this has still worked.

Here is an image of M3 money supply of USA and Europe which shows strong correlation between bitcoin price and liquidity/fiat debasement that helps me for a zoomed out perspective.

Within this longer framework, i also use the volatility to accumulate. Other people like to dca consistently or buy dips, but I try to be more aggressive because i have constructed models with onchain data that allow me to have confidence to trade multi week or even multi month (some would call this swing trading). Here is an example of one of my models with backtesting.

Thanks for the explanation. where can i see charts

In terms of short term trading, i dont focus on technical analysis simply because everyone else is, so less edge. I prefer to focus on orderbooks (which can also be useful for long term confluence for finding tops and bottoms)

you need tradingview account, and then to search for what is listed in the top left corner

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