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December 09, 2022, 06:00:37 AM
#75

These very long term traders are generally just the big FIIs who have access to information which retail folks don't. These people generally just create groups of their own and manipulate the market to buy at the deeps and accumulate during bear markets. And they know how to pump the markets as well. Moreover the main thing is that they work in an ecosystem of media, social media, bankers etc. And all of them work as per their directions and help them in creating the wind that they want to about the market.
You are pointing to whales. Perhaps, the idea to manipulate the market isn't new to us and we are already aware of the situation that can be possible for these whales since they have the money and the capability to do it. But if you are just normal investors who just hold and wait for the market to rally, you have nothing to do but just to become patient. Too far from how these whales make action but yes, they both buy more potential coins during the dip and sell them at a high price. Their intention is to make profit, yet they make their own way of doing it.
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December 09, 2022, 03:03:32 AM
#74
Dear All

There are two bodies in crypto, Traders, and investors. Today's topic is for investors. Specially very longterm investors. There are investing strategies for everyone. Share your ones.

Most common and sometimes I adhere

Collect BTC  at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Collect potential Alts Bear market.


so lets share your belives on strategies. 
These very long term traders are generally just the big FIIs who have access to information which retail folks don't. These people generally just create groups of their own and manipulate the market to buy at the deeps and accumulate during bear markets. And they know how to pump the markets as well. Moreover the main thing is that they work in an ecosystem of media, social media, bankers etc. And all of them work as per their directions and help them in creating the wind that they want to about the market.
hero member
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December 09, 2022, 02:27:53 AM
#73
Dear All

There are two bodies in crypto, Traders, and investors. Today's topic is for investors. Specially very longterm investors. There are investing strategies for everyone. Share your ones.

Most common and sometimes I adhere

Collect BTC  at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Collect potential Alts Bear market.


so lets share your belives on strategies. 

Yes, it is always a better ideal when you purchase your Bitcoin at dip price, because that seriously help to allow you make a really profit compare to a person that buy when the Bitcoin price is pumping, So it better for you do your own research before you enter the market. and long-term holding  idea is always the best strategy because once you can able to hodl your Bitcoin at list 2 to 3 years, I believe you will likely to experience halving year period which is  where everybody believe bullrun will commonly occurs, according to history of Bitcoin and that have repeated itself in many times. Buy dip and hodl for a long term so you can able to make huge profit.
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December 08, 2022, 11:39:03 PM
#72
I do trading aswell in the short term, but your question is regarding investing - i am first and foremost an investor.

My plan is to accumulate bitcoin as much as i can.

For the long term i look at macro liquidity and general stock market sentiment. I also look at certain onchain data for bitcoin that coincides with the 4 year cycle. Even with this decade being so different, this has still worked.

Here is an image of M3 money supply of USA and Europe which shows strong correlation between bitcoin price and liquidity/fiat debasement that helps me for a zoomed out perspective.





Within this longer framework, i also use the volatility to accumulate. Other people like to dca consistently or buy dips, but I try to be more aggressive because i have constructed models with onchain data that allow me to have confidence to trade multi week or even multi month (some would call this swing trading). Here is an example of one of my models with backtesting.




Thanks for the explanation. where can i see charts


In terms of short term trading, i dont focus on technical analysis simply because everyone else is, so less edge. I prefer to focus on orderbooks (which can also be useful for long term confluence for finding tops and bottoms)
copper member
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December 08, 2022, 11:20:15 AM
#71
I do trading aswell in the short term, but your question is regarding investing - i am first and foremost an investor.

My plan is to accumulate bitcoin as much as i can.

For the long term i look at macro liquidity and general stock market sentiment. I also look at certain onchain data for bitcoin that coincides with the 4 year cycle. Even with this decade being so different, this has still worked.

Here is an image of M3 money supply of USA and Europe which shows strong correlation between bitcoin price and liquidity/fiat debasement that helps me for a zoomed out perspective.





Within this longer framework, i also use the volatility to accumulate. Other people like to dca consistently or buy dips, but I try to be more aggressive because i have constructed models with onchain data that allow me to have confidence to trade multi week or even multi month (some would call this swing trading). Here is an example of one of my models with backtesting.





In terms of short term trading, i dont focus on technical analysis simply because everyone else is, so less edge. I prefer to focus on orderbooks (which can also be useful for long term confluence for finding tops and bottoms)
sr. member
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December 08, 2022, 09:36:16 AM
#70
Dear All

There are two bodies in crypto, Traders, and investors. Today's topic is for investors. Specially very longterm investors. There are investing strategies for everyone. Share your ones.

Most common and sometimes I adhere

Collect BTC  at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Collect potential Alts Bear market.


so lets share your belives on strategies. 

This is the simplest and easiest way of making profits in the long run. Buying low Selling high from time to time is also good if you're getting bored on spot, though long term profits are still the best especially if you don't want to risk your chances in futures trading. This is also a best way to not waste your fiat sleeping on your bank account or even in your little vault in your room.

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December 08, 2022, 02:24:50 AM
#69
Since Bitcoin has make due for numerous enormous accident and FUDs around of mining as of recently, there's just a small opportunity Bitcoin would kick the bucket, this mean Bitcoin will liable to recuperate and make new ATH after the market currently back. In any case, there is not a glaringly obvious explanation to put resources into altcoins and sack hold them for long haul since they have no genuine potential. At the point when all the altcoins get is siphon and dumps, it is ideal to regard them as momentary unsafe exchanges as opposed to long haul speculation you ought to purchase and pack hold.
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December 08, 2022, 12:08:47 AM
#68
The only long term "winning strategy" in the crypto market is to hold long term and not to sell when you are a loss. You can afford to invest? You have money lying around that you won't be needing for years? Then go ahead, invest what you have no matter the price and keep holding till you reach your profit goal. Look at the chart, zoom out and you will see that in the long run the price always went up. No one can accurately predict the market. If a dip is happening, try to invest more, but don't keep on waiting for the dip to happen because you might end up losing opportunity to invest. As long as you are investing in well known coins, are bound to be safe.
legendary
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December 07, 2022, 05:17:58 PM
#67
so lets share your belives on strategies.  
For long-term investors?
Well, just collect more Bitcoin, Bitcoin, and Bitcoin in the trusted platform. Even the platform collapsed like FTX, you can still be bale to move the Bitcoin to Binance and other trusted top exchanges.
...

I believe you wanted to say "trusted wallet", not your keys not your coins! Platforms can collapse, so never hold big amounts there, FTX is not the first big exchange that went down the drain.

The winning strategy is investing in Bitcoin and holding it, the longer the better! I think some other coins are also great for long-term holding, we can underestimate the success of Ethereum, BNB, and some other great coins. We all know that these top coins (and some others for sure) have huge potential, so investing and holding them can pay out a lot one day, especially if we invest in them in these bearish periods.
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December 07, 2022, 04:59:49 PM
#66
Dear All

There are two bodies in crypto, Traders, and investors. Today's topic is for investors. Specially very longterm investors. There are investing strategies for everyone. Share your ones.

Most common and sometimes I adhere

Collect BTC  at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Collect potential Alts Bear market.


so lets share your belives on strategies.  
While others go for alts for long term investments, some are still smart enough to focus on bitcoin and just do DCA so they can always take advantage especially when the market is in deep bearish. That is the mindset of successful investors to keep on accumulating bitcoin at every price drop and once their efforts paid off, then they can start diversifying their investments with altcoins that are on top of the market list. These long term strategies have been proven effective and profitable for a lot of times.
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December 07, 2022, 02:34:26 PM
#65
The best strategy for Hold Top Coins.If you want to invest, it is better to go for bitcoin, if you may want to gamble by going for altcoins because they do increase in price more during bull run, because of this,But investing on altcoins is not bad.fundamentals like BTC, ETH and BNB.
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December 01, 2022, 06:37:30 PM
#64
so lets share your belives on strategies. 
For long-term investors?
Well, just collect more Bitcoin, Bitcoin, and Bitcoin in the trusted platform. Even the platform collapsed like FTX, you can still be bale to move the Bitcoin to Binance and other trusted top exchanges.

Nowadays, Bitcoin Pirce is very crashed because of some  FUD and also incidents happened like FTX and others. But, trust me and trust everyone who suggests investing in Bitcoin, after this bearish era, there will be a Bitcoin halving and bullish era. Although there is no guarantee, we can see from the cycle so far, Bitcoin will have bright future in the bullish era. That is why it is not only about how long you are investing, but about the moment we will take the profits. Bullish era, in whenever the period, will be the best time to take profits. And the bearish era like right now is the ebst way to do DCA for collecting more Bitcininlower prices. 
legendary
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December 01, 2022, 05:50:45 PM
#63
Bitcoin is extremely the best coin that is sensible to hold and forget. Every dip is worth another DCA.

Altcoins are another alternative to earning. Highly risky but they are the jackpot of a bullish market. Pick up several potential altcoins. It is not an easy venture, we have seen countless of these potential altcoins that became worthless. Top coins are easier picks for altcoin investments. There are occasions when we want to invest in brand new and low market cap coins and it involves due diligence. Invest with caution and always limit the size to an amount bearable if they become unsuccessful.
Choosing coins to trade is also a big factor to have positive results in trading. Some traders believe that choosing cheap coins will give them more but unfortunately, it was a big lie and a big opposite outcome.
For me, I choose those coins that have a huge trade volume because this is an indication that there is a heavily active trade happening on that project. Plus, the use of reputable exchanges will help a lot. They should be accompanied together with our strategies in order to work and get what you want.
 
This is a very basic mistake that a lot of traders make, since they want to obtain a lot of profits in a short amount of time, but they never consider that by doing this they are increasing the risks they are facing and the volatility they will have to go through, this means only expert traders should do something like this as they are the only ones that can deal with it, but newbie traders disregard those risks and eventually suffer massive losses because of it.
Everyone starts on being a newbie on which it would really be just normal that you would really be experiencing lots of mistakes and errors on which even  those professionals or experts were able to experience too when

they are still a newbie.As the time goes by where experience and knowledge had been accumulate through real time engagement of the market then you would really be able to create these methods and strategies for

yourself which it is really impossible if you cant able to do so considering that you do have already the experience and awareness.Just dont make yourself in rush
because you would really be fucked up along the way if you dont mind off things well.
legendary
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December 01, 2022, 03:23:08 PM
#62
Bitcoin is extremely the best coin that is sensible to hold and forget. Every dip is worth another DCA.

Altcoins are another alternative to earning. Highly risky but they are the jackpot of a bullish market. Pick up several potential altcoins. It is not an easy venture, we have seen countless of these potential altcoins that became worthless. Top coins are easier picks for altcoin investments. There are occasions when we want to invest in brand new and low market cap coins and it involves due diligence. Invest with caution and always limit the size to an amount bearable if they become unsuccessful.
Choosing coins to trade is also a big factor to have positive results in trading. Some traders believe that choosing cheap coins will give them more but unfortunately, it was a big lie and a big opposite outcome.
For me, I choose those coins that have a huge trade volume because this is an indication that there is a heavily active trade happening on that project. Plus, the use of reputable exchanges will help a lot. They should be accompanied together with our strategies in order to work and get what you want.
 
This is a very basic mistake that a lot of traders make, since they want to obtain a lot of profits in a short amount of time, but they never consider that by doing this they are increasing the risks they are facing and the volatility they will have to go through, this means only expert traders should do something like this as they are the only ones that can deal with it, but newbie traders disregard those risks and eventually suffer massive losses because of it.
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November 29, 2022, 05:56:54 PM
#61
Collect BTC  at Deep Dips.
Collect potential Alts Bear market.

As the famous quote says "buy the dip". That's the best time to accumulate more coins, especially in the bear market.

However, the majority are still hesitant to buy more even at the lowest possible dip because of:

- expecting more dip
- not enough funds / lack of funds
- listening to others
- unable to decide

As much as possible, let's try our best to take advantage of any market situation and don't treat the bear market in a negative way.
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November 29, 2022, 05:16:17 PM
#60
Dear All

There are two bodies in crypto, Traders, and investors. Today's topic is for investors. Specially very longterm investors. There are investing strategies for everyone. Share your ones.

Most common and sometimes I adhere

Collect BTC  at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Collect potential Alts Bear market.


so lets share your belives on strategies. 

Very often, the price of a cryptocurrency depends not only on the balance of supply and demand. 

Each coin or token has founders and developers.  Every cryptocurrency has people who are interested in its high price and who own a large number of coins.  If a trader has very good analytical skills (for example, he graduated from a physics and mathematics school with honors), then he can calculate the actions of "whales" (holders of a large number of coins). 

The actions of the "whales" are not chaotic, they are rational and aimed at achieving certain goals. 

Therefore, these goals and actions aimed at achieving them can be predicted and thus make a profit.
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November 29, 2022, 05:00:59 PM
#59
In my opinion that we should hold Cryptocurrency for long term until 2025 and we might see results that might be astounding and that could be the future.
And also I want to say that crypto market is good for us long term not short term and it could be a future. So also I wanna say I am holding my crypto till 2025.
It's very encouraging and acknowledging to hold a coin and especially a coin that have a potentiality like Bitcoin, so i believe some people today who are millionaires and billionaire through cryptocurrency and especially bitcoin started with when Bitcoin price is low before the invest and hold for long periods of time. In the aspect of Bitcoin increasing in 2925, it's not stamped that Bitcoin most experience bullrun in 2025, theirs every tendency that Bitcoin can fall beyond people's imagination in 2025, and their is every tendency that the price can accelerate more than our expectations in 2023 which is next year, everything is dependable by the investors.
sr. member
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November 29, 2022, 04:58:15 PM
#58
Bitcoin is extremely the best coin that is sensible to hold and forget. Every dip is worth another DCA.

Altcoins are another alternative to earning. Highly risky but they are the jackpot of a bullish market. Pick up several potential altcoins. It is not an easy venture, we have seen countless of these potential altcoins that became worthless. Top coins are easier picks for altcoin investments. There are occasions when we want to invest in brand new and low market cap coins and it involves due diligence. Invest with caution and always limit the size to an amount bearable if they become unsuccessful.
Choosing coins to trade is also a big factor to have positive results in trading. Some traders believe that choosing cheap coins will give them more but unfortunately, it was a big lie and a big opposite outcome.
For me, I choose those coins that have a huge trade volume because this is an indication that there is a heavily active trade happening on that project. Plus, the use of reputable exchanges will help a lot. They should be accompanied together with our strategies in order to work and get what you want.
 
sr. member
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November 29, 2022, 03:04:02 PM
#57
It is surprising when people expect that this or that strategy will be able to bring them big profits. Most often, the profit depends on the ability of the trader to apply this strategy. Working with a broker from Amarkets, I learned this on a demo account.
People can assume but who knows if they are right about it. Of course, you can't tell if that particular strategy is working or not if you never try it. If that will never work, then they will look for another. A trader doesn't rely on a single strategy, it often has a backup of many strategies but they usually use the strategy where they see it was more effective. Skill and knowledge are some factors that will affect the results but if you also have an ineffective strategy, that is still useless. They should be bound and work together.

That is why at first you really need to learn what trading is and get a grasp on it. After you learn it, you'll start creating your own strategies, whether you use indicators or not. When it comes to trading, every trader has their own strategy; it's like planning when and where to buy or sell that crypto if the conditions in your strategy are met; without it, you're just guessing where to buy or sell and hoping for luck to strike you so that you make a profit on that trade. 
Whenever you have decided on touching up trading then of course it would really be just sensible or the right thing that you should really learn up first and then try out to engage on real time
on which you do experience it out for yourself on whats trading.Dont anticipate that you could get a hold of it in a short time basis. Long term crypto winning strategy does particularly
talks or mention about the word "HODL".It might really be that not something requires movement or step but getting a hold of asset for a long term aspect is never been easy.
Market movements could really affect you out specially on a declining market.
hero member
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November 29, 2022, 10:29:56 AM
#56
It is surprising when people expect that this or that strategy will be able to bring them big profits. Most often, the profit depends on the ability of the trader to apply this strategy. Working with a broker from Amarkets, I learned this on a demo account.
People can assume but who knows if they are right about it. Of course, you can't tell if that particular strategy is working or not if you never try it. If that will never work, then they will look for another. A trader doesn't rely on a single strategy, it often has a backup of many strategies but they usually use the strategy where they see it was more effective. Skill and knowledge are some factors that will affect the results but if you also have an ineffective strategy, that is still useless. They should be bound and work together.

That is why at first you really need to learn what trading is and get a grasp on it. After you learn it, you'll start creating your own strategies, whether you use indicators or not. When it comes to trading, every trader has their own strategy; it's like planning when and where to buy or sell that crypto if the conditions in your strategy are met; without it, you're just guessing where to buy or sell and hoping for luck to strike you so that you make a profit on that trade. 
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