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Topic: looking for truth: if dash is scam, where are the victims? - page 2. (Read 3335 times)

legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
... seeing how many member of them...

Two. I know it's hard to count, but two ffs.

Now three. But this will be my only post here.

generalizethis
smooth
cryptohunter
TPTB_need_war

that pretty much counts as 4 .. in 2 pages alone. Posting several times. They can also be found in any anti Dash thread...



Apparently reading isn't your forte either, those who said they lost money on the dashscam are myself, meme magic, and kennyP.

Still waiting on a refutation from anyone on the two design flaws in dash--instantx and X11..... Anyone? I know your dev gave up, but are you all just hoping the poor design decisions are going to magically disappear, like so many coins after an emissions cut?
full member
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I have herd a lot of things about dash who knows if it's really a scam though it's too soon to tell honestly
legendary
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looking for truth: if dash is scam, where are the victims?

I somehow doubt any of these Monero fanatics that replied in this thread are a victim here..... so where are they ?
victims please step forward, i promise no harm will come to you  Roll Eyes

From what I see, whatever the evidence is, everybody think "the others" attack and "we" own the truth.
Imho this was just another useless thread and imho the smart ones were the ones that did not reply.

OP forgot to tell about his newbie account, but enforces his conclusions.
I tend not to believe him, however, good luck DASH,  good luck XMR and let the best coin win.
legendary
Activity: 2548
Merit: 1245
... seeing how many member of them...

Two. I know it's hard to count, but two ffs.

Now three. But this will be my only post here.

generalizethis
smooth
cryptohunter
TPTB_need_war

that pretty much counts as 4 .. in 2 pages alone. Posting several times. They can also be found in any anti Dash thread...
to be honest i'm still waiting for iCEBREAKER &  Adam White, maybe they got stuck in traffic or something  Undecided

legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1036
Facts are more efficient than fud
looking for truth: if dash is scam, where are the victims?

I somehow doubt any of these Monero fanatics that replied in this thread are a victim here..... so where are they ?
victims please step forward, i promise no harm will come to you  Roll Eyes

^^look up, 3. I know dashtards are mathematically challenged, but come on!
legendary
Activity: 2548
Merit: 1245
looking for truth: if dash is scam, where are the victims?

I somehow doubt any of these Monero fanatics that replied in this thread are a victim here..... so where are they ?
victims please step forward, i promise no harm will come to you  Roll Eyes
member
Activity: 115
Merit: 10
... seeing how many member of them...

Two. I know it's hard to count, but two ffs.

Now three. But this will be my only post here.
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1036
Facts are more efficient than fud
i hear a lot of people (ehm monero or nsa or other anon coins supporters) screaming all around the web about the DASH scam or whatever

is there any victim of this scam? can you reveal here in which way and how much you lost? what is the scheme?
i want numbers, real stories


You demand quite some attention from a new account.
I doubt that this is your main account. Did you lose it?  Grin
However, oddly enough, you've got your answers.


yep, only one person felt a victom because he wasnt aware of the instamine and sold his Darkcoin afterwards which of course is a bit strange to hear as the instamine
has been discussed endless times in this section alone and also has been read by 13.688 viewers since 29th of march 2014 on Darkcoin / Dash's official site


https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/

and has been discussed in much more details here :

https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

Quote
In this article, we explore the impact of the “instamine” on the Dash ecosystem. There’s been talk from the very beginning of Dash about the very first 24 hours, 1.9 million coins were issued. We gained access to Evan Duffield to directly answer some questions about the instamine and give us an account of what happened.

A little bit of investigation about a coin's history before investing actually any money into it is really not that much to ask ... is it ?  Huh  

I could drag Monero's history into this as well, seeing how many member of them are gathered in this thread to spread fud about either the masternode network, Evan Duffield, Darksend mixing or the Dash community  but whats the point ? Its not like they are hiding their cripple miner software problems from their early days ? or trying to hide that their webwallet has more security holes in it then Swiss cheese or that
they still dont have an offically supported GUI wallet after more two years .... there is a word for this all of course, a simple powerfull word :

Hypocrites

  

Qwizzie, you're a fucking moron. The only reason there isn't a GUI is that the developers (unlike the shit developers at dash) want to get the coin right before making it available to a general audience--notice they didn't slam 11 algos together making the coin 11 times insecure or fuck up remedial math with a poorly thought out instantx scheme. As for the crippled miner, that's pretty well documented and hardly on par with dash's launch, but nice use of supposition as FUD.

But again, I ask you, Evan, Tok, Aleix or any of the dashtards to refute the claims that X11 and instantx are extra-shitty designs in a world of shit designs. Marketing (or scrambling to divert attention away from poor design) isn't going to save your coin from the epic fail that is Evan's design choice--but congrats to him for fooling a few speculators with x-names and soda machines in the meantime.
legendary
Activity: 2548
Merit: 1245
i hear a lot of people (ehm monero or nsa or other anon coins supporters) screaming all around the web about the DASH scam or whatever

is there any victim of this scam? can you reveal here in which way and how much you lost? what is the scheme?
i want numbers, real stories


You demand quite some attention from a new account.
I doubt that this is your main account. Did you lose it?  Grin
However, oddly enough, you've got your answers.


yep, only one person felt a victom because he wasnt aware of the instamine and sold his Darkcoin afterwards which of course is a bit strange to hear as the instamine
has been discussed endless times in this section alone and also has been read by 13.688 viewers since 29th of march 2014 on Darkcoin / Dash's official site


https://dashtalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/

and has been discussed in much more details here :

https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

Quote
In this article, we explore the impact of the “instamine” on the Dash ecosystem. There’s been talk from the very beginning of Dash about the very first 24 hours, 1.9 million coins were issued. We gained access to Evan Duffield to directly answer some questions about the instamine and give us an account of what happened.

A little bit of investigation about a coin's history before investing actually any money into it is really not that much to ask ... is it ?  Huh  

I could drag Monero's history into this as well, seeing how many member of them are gathered in this thread to spread fud about either the masternode network, Evan Duffield, Darksend mixing or the Dash community  but whats the point ? Its not like they are hiding their cripple miner software problems from their early days ? or trying to hide that their webwallet has more security holes in it then Swiss cheese or that
they still dont have an offically supported GUI wallet after more two years .... there is a word for this all of course, a simple powerfull word :

Hypocrite

  
  



sr. member
Activity: 291
Merit: 250
i hear a lot of people (ehm monero or nsa or other anon coins supporters) screaming all around the web about the DASH scam or whatever

is there any victim of this scam? can you reveal here in which way and how much you lost? what is the scheme?
i want numbers, real stories


You demand quite some attention from a new account.
I doubt that this is your main account. Did you lose it?  Grin
However, oddly enough, you've got your answers.
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1036
Facts are more efficient than fud

Still waiting for Tok, Aliex, Evan, or any of the dash community to refute the evidence that X11 and instantx are terrible crypto (even by dash's low standards)

I didn't invest because of its algo. I bought because of its monetary properties and I wasn't aware that I was having to account for your investments as well as my own.

If thats what's most important to you then presumably you're a big enough boy to go and pick something that suits you without my endorsement  Wink


I pick coins that won't break because they picked the right algo and weren't stupid enough to combine 11 of them for 11 times the insecurity.

Also, still waiting for one of the dash community to refute the weaknesses of X11 and instantx--your ideas on money properties hardly qualify as refutation of the bad crypto dash was built on. But I'm sure your house of sand won't blow away before you can cash out, if that's your worry.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188

Still waiting for Tok, Aliex, Evan, or any of the dash community to refute the evidence that X11 and instantx are terrible crypto (even by dash's low standards)

I didn't invest because of its algo. I bought because of its monetary properties and I wasn't aware that I was having to account for your investments as well as my own.

If thats what's most important to you then presumably you're a big enough boy to go and pick something that suits you without my endorsement  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1036
Facts are more efficient than fud
Still waiting for Tok, Aliex, Evan, or any of the dash community to refute the evidence that X11 and instantx are terrible crypto (even by dash's low standards), but I'm guessing they're theoretically-challenged and need to see the coin break before they realize there's a problem--until then they will try to distract with calls of butthurt jealousy and FUD. There will come a day when the theoretical problems outlined will become real to this cult of instaminers, and on that day, their ANN will ring triumphantly with posts of "I told you so, dumbass." Until then, they can bathe in the glory of their combined ignorance. My guess is there's a lot of pee in the water.
legendary
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Please don't waste my time again.

I don't think you need my help on that front.


 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188

Please don't waste my time again.

I don't think you need my help on that front.
sr. member
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You've documented lots of things around these forums. The reality is, far from being an technical "authority" on cryptos

Dude I've been schooling Gmaxwell and for example TierNolan among many others. Get a grip on reality.

Evan replied in my thread and did not refute my assertion of the egregious math error.

Please don't waste my time again. Please. I don't have time to respond to all your slobbering.
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1188

Imagine you're at a party with around 99 other people and you're told soon there will be a giant cake...

This analogy is nonsense. Kind of like the rest of the green-eyed, butthurt whining on here.

I acquired my Dash for peanuts - well after the launch and all its associated problems that you cite and I've been at a gain ever since.

I documented a high school level math lie"error" in InstantX where the masternodes compromise the security

You've documented lots of things around these forums. The reality is, far from being an technical "authority" on cryptos you're a trainspotter with zip experience outside of wallpapering bitcointalk threads with your own recycled quotes day after day.

(And long may it stay that way so we may be spared the daunting prospect of any of your idle ramblings actually turning a reality that wastes people's money as well as forum acreage Wink ).
sr. member
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Can anyone prove dark sent has defect? Or can anyone prove dark send is mathematically correct?

I documented a high school level math lie"error" in InstantX where the masternodes compromise the security. The similar math applies to the anonymity of DarkSend. Also I hear DarkSend requires 10 minutes. Monero's anonymity is instantaneous and no masternodes to spy on you.

I mean, the inventor sneak himself a few million, big deal. Bitcoin inventor also pocket himself a million coins. We can not ask everybody as Saint as satoshi.

I wrote:

As for satoshi, the coins he controls are not 1% (or 150.000)... numbers floating around are in the range of 1mn+.

5% is not 32.1%. And because no one cared about crypto-currency, because he invented the entire sector. Evan invented only how to scam cleverly because there are many now who want to mine. And I dispute that 5% estimate.
mkc
hero member
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Can anyone prove dark sent has defect? Or can anyone prove dark send is mathematically correct?
I mean, the inventor sneak himself a few million, big deal. Bitcoin inventor also pocket himself a million coins. We can not ask everybody as Saint as satoshi. I am okay with Evan.
The reason dark coin is still around is Dark Sent.
sr. member
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The other question I have is, does all this matter to people who buy dash now?  The devs can no longer victimize people, am I right?

The diagram of how Dash works now (and I suggest you click that quote below and read that entire thread over there):

[...]

Here is diagram of the scam of the flow of electronic digits printed ongoing out of thin air:

PRINTING PRESS ----> INSIDERS -----> INVESTORSFOOLS
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