LOOKING TO BUY BTC FROM A TRUSTED MEMBER VIA PAYPAL - page 2.

markj113

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Quote from: eddie13 on January 09, 2017, 09:14:24 AM

Quote from: 0x0010 on January 09, 2017, 09:13:15 AM

Quote from: isoneguy on January 09, 2017, 09:11:36 AM

Listen up kids.

Throwing tantrums and pointing fingers and general acts of shitshowing never make for successful business. It also makes you look like someone who's scam has been revealed.

Successful traders are patient, polite and generally don't cry in public.

Tell you what.

If you pay me $75 in paypal...I will pay a trusted escrow to hold the $75 btc for the 1 year charge-back period and then release it to you if no charge-back has occurred. I will give positive trust at the end of the 1 year period.

Fair enough? That way nobody gets screwed.

Someone does get screwed. Him. He has to wait one year for $75. Do you think through the logic when you post something?

Why don't you sell him BTC for paypal then?

Looking at 0x0010's feedback perhaps they could use quickseller for Escrow Grin

markj113

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Quote from: 0x0010 on January 09, 2017, 09:13:15 AM

Someone does get screwed. Him. He has to wait one year for $75. Do you think through the logic when you post something?

sarcasm obviously wasted on you then Cheesy

eddie13

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BTC or BUST

Quote from: 0x0010 on January 09, 2017, 09:13:15 AM

Quote from: isoneguy on January 09, 2017, 09:11:36 AM

Listen up kids.

Throwing tantrums and pointing fingers and general acts of shitshowing never make for successful business. It also makes you look like someone who's scam has been revealed.

Successful traders are patient, polite and generally don't cry in public.

Tell you what.

If you pay me $75 in paypal...I will pay a trusted escrow to hold the $75 btc for the 1 year charge-back period and then release it to you if no charge-back has occurred. I will give positive trust at the end of the 1 year period.

Fair enough? That way nobody gets screwed.

Someone does get screwed. Him. He has to wait one year for $75. Do you think through the logic when you post something?

Why don't you sell him BTC for paypal then?

0x0010

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Quote from: isoneguy on January 09, 2017, 09:11:36 AM

Listen up kids.

Throwing tantrums and pointing fingers and general acts of shitshowing never make for successful business. It also makes you look like someone who's scam has been revealed.

Successful traders are patient, polite and generally don't cry in public.

Tell you what.

If you pay me $75 in paypal...I will pay a trusted escrow to hold the $75 btc for the 1 year charge-back period and then release it to you if no charge-back has occurred. I will give positive trust at the end of the 1 year period.

Fair enough? That way nobody gets screwed.

Someone does get screwed. Him. He has to wait one year for $75. Do you think through the logic when you post something?

isoneguy

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Listen up kids.

Throwing tantrums and pointing fingers and general acts of shitshowing never make for successful business. It also makes you look like someone who's scam has been revealed.

Successful traders are patient, polite and generally don't cry in public.

Tell you what.

If you pay me $75 in paypal...I will pay a trusted escrow to hold the $75 btc for the 1 year charge-back period and then release it to you if no charge-back has occurred. I will give positive trust at the end of the 1 year period.

Fair enough? That way nobody gets screwed.

0x0010

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female ;)

Quote from: TampaBayBucs on January 09, 2017, 09:00:42 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:40:54 AM

Quote from: 0x0010 on January 09, 2017, 08:34:20 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:29:44 AM

Quote from: TampaBayBucs on January 09, 2017, 08:24:30 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:18:59 AM

No escrow will accept this trade for all the reasons listed here. It just means the escrow would lose money as well as the btc seller. Unless you're willing to wait a year for the funds to be released (as there is a time limit on payment reversals). Nobody reputable is going to take the trade, as many people have been scammed by this in the past.

To be quite frank there is actually no need if I find the seller to be reputable enough. Escrow is just more hoops to jump thru for this simple transaction & tbh I'm so sick of reading the word scam. What has this world come to where everyone wanting to buy something online via paypal is auto labled a scam artist?? It's ridiculous.

Why are you so insistent on PayPal then? It obviously gives you protection but whoever you buy off has zero defence if you reverse the payment. You're the one being unreasonable if you cannot see this. Nobody is labelling PayPal users scammers - just PayPal users who want to buy bitcoin. You're "new" here but you'll soon learn that nobody takes these trades for a reason.

PayPal is the #1 payment processor. Sure there are scammers, but there are legit people. Get off your high horse my friend. People want to move from PayPal to bitcoin but when they get charged 50% after showing their ID on LocalBitcoins or when they get harassed here, they have no choice but to continue using PayPal.

Who are you exactly? A multi account shill for the original poster? This is a bitcoin forum. In the scams section you will find a clear warning to avoid these trades. If you're such a Good Samaritan then you can complete the trade for them. You are simply deflecting from the point, repeated many times, that this trade will protect the buyer and allow them to get their money back by reversing the payment. Good luck finding a poor soul to do the trade.

LMAO You poor old soul...Full of conspiracies & rubbish I tell you. Also, thanks for all the recommendations people but no thx. I have my mind made up & this isn't some kind of circus I'm about to go through to get my btc..In addition I dont live in a large city like Tampa lol & I'm not in the selling business. I have no intentions of using this SLOW site to sell stuff to establish a rep to make a measily btc purchase. For the record, the timeouts attached to messages & posts on this site make it almost unbearable. To the techs, was it really necessary? Maybe you should take a look into how the guys over @ 2+2 created their site. lol

http://www.twoplustwo.com/?

The site that got hacked? lol got the db

TampaBayBucs

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Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:40:54 AM

Quote from: 0x0010 on January 09, 2017, 08:34:20 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:29:44 AM

Quote from: TampaBayBucs on January 09, 2017, 08:24:30 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:18:59 AM

No escrow will accept this trade for all the reasons listed here. It just means the escrow would lose money as well as the btc seller. Unless you're willing to wait a year for the funds to be released (as there is a time limit on payment reversals). Nobody reputable is going to take the trade, as many people have been scammed by this in the past.

To be quite frank there is actually no need if I find the seller to be reputable enough. Escrow is just more hoops to jump thru for this simple transaction & tbh I'm so sick of reading the word scam. What has this world come to where everyone wanting to buy something online via paypal is auto labled a scam artist?? It's ridiculous.

Why are you so insistent on PayPal then? It obviously gives you protection but whoever you buy off has zero defence if you reverse the payment. You're the one being unreasonable if you cannot see this. Nobody is labelling PayPal users scammers - just PayPal users who want to buy bitcoin. You're "new" here but you'll soon learn that nobody takes these trades for a reason.

PayPal is the #1 payment processor. Sure there are scammers, but there are legit people. Get off your high horse my friend. People want to move from PayPal to bitcoin but when they get charged 50% after showing their ID on LocalBitcoins or when they get harassed here, they have no choice but to continue using PayPal.

Who are you exactly? A multi account shill for the original poster? This is a bitcoin forum. In the scams section you will find a clear warning to avoid these trades. If you're such a Good Samaritan then you can complete the trade for them. You are simply deflecting from the point, repeated many times, that this trade will protect the buyer and allow them to get their money back by reversing the payment. Good luck finding a poor soul to do the trade.

LMAO You poor old soul...Full of conspiracies & rubbish I tell you. Also, thanks for all the recommendations people but no thx. I have my mind made up & this isn't some kind of circus I'm about to go through to get my btc..In addition I dont live in a large city like Tampa lol & I'm not in the selling business. I have no intentions of using this SLOW site to sell stuff to establish a rep to make a measily btc purchase. For the record, the timeouts attached to messages & posts on this site make it almost unbearable. To the techs, was it really necessary? Maybe you should take a look into how the guys over @ 2+2 created their site. lol

markj113

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I would say TampaBayBucs put your money where your mouth is.

When you have sourced some bitcoin, come back and put it up for sale to newbies via paypal and we'll see how it plays out.

eddie13

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BTC or BUST

Quote from: TampaBayBucs on January 09, 2017, 08:43:20 AM

PayPal is the #1 payment processor. Sure there are scammers, but there are legit people. Get off your high horse my friend. People want to move from PayPal to bitcoin but when they get charged 50% after showing their ID on LocalBitcoins or when they get harassed here, they have no choice but to continue using PayPal.

Indeed,you took the words right outta my mouth. Some people will never realize that LocalBitcoins is anything but an ideal site to Purchase btc... & the other sites that sell would more less like for you to provide a DNA & urine sample just to get a verified account. Which is why Paypal is my preferred method, not because it gives me some unfair advantage over the seller smh

But it does, it gives you an EXTREME scammer advantage over even the most trusted BTC seller..

Payapl is our enemy, it represents everything us bitcoiners want to destroy..

Who in their right mind would want paypal anyway?
Even if the guy selling a Ferrari was offered 110% trade value in Kias would he take it?
Why would a sportscar connoisseur want a yard full of grocery getters?

eddie13

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BTC or BUST

Dude...

I almost moved to Tampa just now and checked out the BTC scene in the area...

Their is no shortage there of BTC dealers on Craigslist.. Find one of them and trade for cash in person at a coffee shop or something..

The simple fact is.. It is typical to scam people out of their BTC using paypal.. Paypal is terrible..
If you do find someone that will trade for your paypal, it could and very well should cost you a 25% premium due to the risk involved taking your paypal..

Grab some cash, look on Craigslist..

isoneguy

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Yeah, I think that if you want to build trust using paypal you should allow someone to buy from you with it...not the other way around.

I mean, I usually give everyone the benefit of the doubt...but people who stick to their guns using cyclical commentary are usually scammers.

It's not worth the effort, the risk or the headache when most of us already have a way to sell bitcoins risk free. Few of us are altruistic anymore.

Buy something with paypal...sell it here for bitcoin using escrow.

Tada...you now have 1-2 positive trust ratings and everyone is happy.

Tell you what, I am in need a cat poop scooper. I will pay you $10 in bitcoin to ship one to me if it isn't a piece of trash.

Viola...you'd be 1/7th of the way there.

I'm not going to offer any additional solutions...

0x0010

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Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:40:54 AM

Quote from: 0x0010 on January 09, 2017, 08:34:20 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:29:44 AM

Quote from: TampaBayBucs on January 09, 2017, 08:24:30 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:18:59 AM

No escrow will accept this trade for all the reasons listed here. It just means the escrow would lose money as well as the btc seller. Unless you're willing to wait a year for the funds to be released (as there is a time limit on payment reversals). Nobody reputable is going to take the trade, as many people have been scammed by this in the past.

To be quite frank there is actually no need if I find the seller to be reputable enough. Escrow is just more hoops to jump thru for this simple transaction & tbh I'm so sick of reading the word scam. What has this world come to where everyone wanting to buy something online via paypal is auto labled a scam artist?? It's ridiculous.

Why are you so insistent on PayPal then? It obviously gives you protection but whoever you buy off has zero defence if you reverse the payment. You're the one being unreasonable if you cannot see this. Nobody is labelling PayPal users scammers - just PayPal users who want to buy bitcoin. You're "new" here but you'll soon learn that nobody takes these trades for a reason.

PayPal is the #1 payment processor. Sure there are scammers, but there are legit people. Get off your high horse my friend. People want to move from PayPal to bitcoin but when they get charged 50% after showing their ID on LocalBitcoins or when they get harassed here, they have no choice but to continue using PayPal.

Who are you exactly? A multi account shill for the original poster? This is a bitcoin forum. In the scams section you will find a clear warning to avoid these trades. If you're such a Good Samaritan then you can complete the trade for them. You are simply deflecting from the point, repeated many times, that this trade will protect the buyer and allow them to get their money back by reversing the payment. Good luck finding a poor soul to do the trade.

I just love how whenever I post something siding with someone, everyone's first assumption is the same.

"A multi account shill for the original poster?"

Right, because I'd make an alt account to do a $75 exchange when I could do it on my account here (0x0010.)
Not everyone is a 'scammer', I've done $200-300 worth of deals so far (I think) and some involved PayPal. Not a single problem here. But oh well.

TampaBayBucs

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Quote from: 0x0010 on January 09, 2017, 08:34:20 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:29:44 AM

Quote from: TampaBayBucs on January 09, 2017, 08:24:30 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:18:59 AM

No escrow will accept this trade for all the reasons listed here. It just means the escrow would lose money as well as the btc seller. Unless you're willing to wait a year for the funds to be released (as there is a time limit on payment reversals). Nobody reputable is going to take the trade, as many people have been scammed by this in the past.

To be quite frank there is actually no need if I find the seller to be reputable enough. Escrow is just more hoops to jump thru for this simple transaction & tbh I'm so sick of reading the word scam. What has this world come to where everyone wanting to buy something online via paypal is auto labled a scam artist?? It's ridiculous.

Why are you so insistent on PayPal then? It obviously gives you protection but whoever you buy off has zero defence if you reverse the payment. You're the one being unreasonable if you cannot see this. Nobody is labelling PayPal users scammers - just PayPal users who want to buy bitcoin. You're "new" here but you'll soon learn that nobody takes these trades for a reason.

PayPal is the #1 payment processor. Sure there are scammers, but there are legit people. Get off your high horse my friend. People want to move from PayPal to bitcoin but when they get charged 50% after showing their ID on LocalBitcoins or when they get harassed here, they have no choice but to continue using PayPal.

Indeed,you took the words right outta my mouth. Some people will never realize that LocalBitcoins is anything but an ideal site to Purchase btc... & the other sites that sell would more less like for you to provide a DNA & urine sample just to get a verified account. Which is why Paypal is my preferred method, not because it gives me some unfair advantage over the seller smh

Fortify

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Quote from: 0x0010 on January 09, 2017, 08:34:20 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:29:44 AM

Quote from: TampaBayBucs on January 09, 2017, 08:24:30 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:18:59 AM

No escrow will accept this trade for all the reasons listed here. It just means the escrow would lose money as well as the btc seller. Unless you're willing to wait a year for the funds to be released (as there is a time limit on payment reversals). Nobody reputable is going to take the trade, as many people have been scammed by this in the past.

To be quite frank there is actually no need if I find the seller to be reputable enough. Escrow is just more hoops to jump thru for this simple transaction & tbh I'm so sick of reading the word scam. What has this world come to where everyone wanting to buy something online via paypal is auto labled a scam artist?? It's ridiculous.

Why are you so insistent on PayPal then? It obviously gives you protection but whoever you buy off has zero defence if you reverse the payment. You're the one being unreasonable if you cannot see this. Nobody is labelling PayPal users scammers - just PayPal users who want to buy bitcoin. You're "new" here but you'll soon learn that nobody takes these trades for a reason.

PayPal is the #1 payment processor. Sure there are scammers, but there are legit people. Get off your high horse my friend. People want to move from PayPal to bitcoin but when they get charged 50% after showing their ID on LocalBitcoins or when they get harassed here, they have no choice but to continue using PayPal.

Who are you exactly? A multi account shill for the original poster? This is a bitcoin forum. In the scams section you will find a clear warning to avoid these trades. If you're such a Good Samaritan then you can complete the trade for them. You are simply deflecting from the point, repeated many times, that this trade will protect the buyer and allow them to get their money back by reversing the payment. Good luck finding a poor soul to do the trade.

0x0010

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Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:29:44 AM

Quote from: TampaBayBucs on January 09, 2017, 08:24:30 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:18:59 AM

No escrow will accept this trade for all the reasons listed here. It just means the escrow would lose money as well as the btc seller. Unless you're willing to wait a year for the funds to be released (as there is a time limit on payment reversals). Nobody reputable is going to take the trade, as many people have been scammed by this in the past.

To be quite frank there is actually no need if I find the seller to be reputable enough. Escrow is just more hoops to jump thru for this simple transaction & tbh I'm so sick of reading the word scam. What has this world come to where everyone wanting to buy something online via paypal is auto labled a scam artist?? It's ridiculous.

Why are you so insistent on PayPal then? It obviously gives you protection but whoever you buy off has zero defence if you reverse the payment. You're the one being unreasonable if you cannot see this. Nobody is labelling PayPal users scammers - just PayPal users who want to buy bitcoin. You're "new" here but you'll soon learn that nobody takes these trades for a reason.

PayPal is the #1 payment processor. Sure there are scammers, but there are legit people. Get off your high horse my friend. People want to move from PayPal to bitcoin but when they get charged 50% after showing their ID on LocalBitcoins or when they get harassed here, they have no choice but to continue using PayPal.

Fortify

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Quote from: TampaBayBucs on January 09, 2017, 08:24:30 AM

Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:18:59 AM

No escrow will accept this trade for all the reasons listed here. It just means the escrow would lose money as well as the btc seller. Unless you're willing to wait a year for the funds to be released (as there is a time limit on payment reversals). Nobody reputable is going to take the trade, as many people have been scammed by this in the past.

To be quite frank there is actually no need if I find the seller to be reputable enough. Escrow is just more hoops to jump thru for this simple transaction & tbh I'm so sick of reading the word scam. What has this world come to where everyone wanting to buy something online via paypal is auto labled a scam artist?? It's ridiculous.

Why are you so insistent on PayPal then? It obviously gives you protection but whoever you buy off has zero defence if you reverse the payment. You're the one being unreasonable if you cannot see this. Nobody is labelling PayPal users scammers - just PayPal users who want to buy bitcoin. You're "new" here but you'll soon learn that nobody takes these trades for a reason.

TampaBayBucs

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Quote from: Fortify on January 09, 2017, 08:18:59 AM

No escrow will accept this trade for all the reasons listed here. It just means the escrow would lose money as well as the btc seller. Unless you're willing to wait a year for the funds to be released (as there is a time limit on payment reversals). Nobody reputable is going to take the trade, as many people have been scammed by this in the past.

To be quite frank there is actually no need if I find the seller to be reputable enough. Escrow is just more hoops to jump thru for this simple transaction & tbh I'm so sick of reading the word scam. What has this world come to where everyone wanting to buy something online via paypal is auto labled a scam artist?? It's ridiculous.

Fortify

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No escrow will accept this trade for all the reasons listed here. It just means the escrow would lose money as well as the btc seller. Unless you're willing to wait a year for the funds to be released (as there is a time limit on payment reversals). Nobody reputable is going to take the trade, as many people have been scammed by this in the past.

isoneguy

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escrow you would want to consider using:

phillipma, monbux, ognasty...there's a list somewhere but it's not up to date or complete.

monbux does free escrow, phillipma wants to do more escrows than he's already doing...and ognasty is like royalty here.

I'd offer to escrow but I'm probably a bit fresh and ornery for you.

TampaBayBucs

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Quote from: Gutierez on January 09, 2017, 07:49:14 AM

Quote from: isoneguy on January 09, 2017, 07:06:46 AM

Nobody wants to do PayPal trades with fresh accounts. The reasoning behind this is the frequency of scam attempts. Nobody with experience will want to risk you scamming them.

You can buy bitcoins through coinbase.com or cex.io using your bank account or card. Alternatively you can sell things we might be interested in here on the forums, the best things to sell are things that aren't already being sold. Escrow is a great way to build trust because of the extra people involved in the trade(extra feedback = additional rapour).

You should look into localbitcoins.com and make the trade in person if you would like to remain anonymous.

Your first few trades should either be selling something of value to us or a purchase from someone here on the forum.

Good fortune to you and welcome to bitcointalk.

p.s. we're trying to help you, don't ignore our free advice...

yes, That is my thought. Some guys with newbie ranks usually want to buy bitcoin with paypal so that they will easily make scams and then do disputes with paypal for refunds. Why doesn't this guy want to buy on coinbase or Cex.io??? it's very easy and safe for him

Not looking to scam & already found a seller but in need of a reputable escrow...Also it's not easy to buy from those sites as the verification process is absurd, long & drawn out.

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