Topic: Low Hashrate Mining Ethereum with GeForce GTX 1070 on MinerGate (Read 59244 times)

First, I have tried overclocking my card with not very good results.  I didn't install MSI Afterburner (as I don't have an MSI card - not that it probably matters...) but instead installed ASUS GPU Tweak II overclocking software.  (Yes, I even downloaded the ROG skinned version since I have the ROG card...)  I also installed GPU-Z, which is more just a hardware monitor than anything else (which it turns out that GPU Tweak II has a built-in hardware monitor as well for the video card...).  I have tried a few different overclocking settings with Genoil Ethminer (both cranking up the GPU core clock and the GDDR5 memory clock speeds as well as underclocking the GPU and overclocking the memory) and no matter what I do, I can't seem to get an average hashrate better than about 26MH/s out of my card.  In fact, my card seems to get roughly the same hashrate overclocked as I get with the stock settings, which seems very odd to me.

Secondly, I recently purchased a second video card for my computer to try to mine with.  I do still use my computer for many things, including gaming, and I have to close Ethminer and stop mining when I want to play games online with friends as it will kill my framerate if I mine and game at the same time.  I was HOPING that with two cards, perhaps I could set it up to mine with one card and I can use the other card to play games with and have it not affect the performance of the game at all.  Then, when I am at work, sleeping, or just not gaming, I can set it back to mine with both cards and get double the hashrate that I have been getting.  However, this has not been the case at all and for some reason I can't get Ethminer to actually mine with both cards!

I am not sure if the problem is that I now have a mixed environment of AMD and nVidia cards in my computer or if there is some other underlying issue?  I figured since I keep hearing how the AMD Radeon cards are so much better at mining Ethereum that I would try to find one.  Since the AMD cards are still hard to find anywhere, I managed to buy an older used card to throw in my computer.  I bought an ASUS ROG Radeon R9 380 4GB GDDR5 video card.  I now have both cards in my computer (the GeForce GTX 1070 and Radeon R9 380) and I have both AMD and nVidia drivers installed.  I also tried to install the AMD OpenCL APP SDK (which I am not 100% sure if I need that to mine or not?), but the automated installer for version 3.0 doesn't work worth a damn, so I had to install version 2.9.1 instead.

However, even with all of this installed (and multiple reboots) and running Ethminer with the -G option (for OpenCL), the only card that is detected to mine with is still the GeForce 1070!  That's right, even on OpenCL mining mode, it still only detects my GeForce GTX 1070 card and tries to mine with it in OpenCL mode, rather than in CUDA mode!  This is very weird to me and I figured that if I ran Ethminer with the -G option, it would only use the Radeon card to mine with and I could use the nVidia card to play games with.  There is also an -X option in Ethminer that will set it to mixed mode for a system with both AMD and nVidia cards in it.  Even when trying that mode, it still only detects the GeForce 1070 card and mines with that.  It seems like it is mining with it on BOTH OpenCL and CUDA mode though as I get status messages that it is accepting work for both OpenCL #0 and CUDA #1, but the hashrate I get is still only the same 24-26MH/s that I get from the GeForce GTX 1070 card only.  I get no increased hashrate at all that would make me believe that it is actually using both cards to mine with.

Just about the ONLY way that I have managed to try to get Ethminer to use the Radeon card at all was I had to switch the monitor cable over to the Radeon card, rebooted the computer, then went into Device Manager and actually disabled the GeForce card entirely so Windows wouldn't even use it, and then started Ethminer with the -G option.  However, even when doing that, Ethminer didn't seem like it identified the card properly or something.  When using the GeForce card, Ethminer knows exactly what it is and says that it detected a "GeForce GTX 1070 with 8589934592 of memory".  However, it doesn't properly identify the AMD Radeon R9 380 card and instead just says that it detected "Tonga".  What is even weirder is that if I run Ethminer.exe -G --list-devices, it actually lists THREE OpenCL devices.  OpenCL #0 is the GeForce GTX 1070.  Then OpenCL #1 is Tonga with a memory size of 2147483648 and OpenCL #2 is Tonga again with a memory size of 2147483648 as well.  So, for some reason, it is splitting the Radeon card into two separate video cards each with only 2GB of memory rather than a single card with 4GB of memory!!  This is very bizarre to say the least!  But anyways, even trying to run Ethminer with the GeForce GTX 1070 card disabled in Device Manager, it started trying to mine with the Radeon R9 380 card but shortly after it built the DAG, I kept getting 0MH/s readouts on it for about a minute and then my monitor just went totally black.  It didn't go into power saving mode or anything and the monitor still detected a signal as the monitor was actually on the whole time, but it just stopped displaying anything at all.  So, I had to do a hard restart on my computer and when Windows loaded up, it said that a critical error occurred with the video card and it had to be shut down.

So, for right now I am using my system backwards from how I was anticipating using it, lol...  I have my monitor plugged into the Radeon R9 card and using that as my primary display card.  Then, I am using Ethminer in -U CUDA Mode to mine with the GeForce GTX 1070 card only on Alpereum Pool (which BTW, as soon as I joined, they stopped doing the 0% miner fees and now have a 0.2% miner fee, but they lowered the minimum payout from 0.1 ETH to 0.05 ETH, which is fine since it takes me all week just to mine 0.05 ETH anyways with only one card getting 26MH/s...).  So, at least I can still use my computer with no slowdowns using the Radeon R9 card and last night I was playing BattleField 4 with the Radeon card with no problems while mining with the GeForce GTX 1070 card.  Like I said, not exactly how I had envisioned making this setup work on my system, but it is working somewhat at least.  I am still pissed that I can't get BOTH video cards to mine and now I feel like I got ripped off paying a premium for another video card that I can't even mine with!

Hey guys, thank you for that very informativ thread so far.

Im new to mining and like so many others I tried minegate first. Auto-mining chose XMRfor me.
My system is a xeon E3 123 v3, 8 GB DDR3 Memory and a AMD Radeon R9 390. Not top notch, I know...

So far with minegate I get around 120-140 H/S with CPU mining and around 40-60 H/S with GPU mining. But Im reading about mega hash rates here. I dont even get over 3,6 k Hash/minute with my GPU. Is that because of my slow hardware, the bad mining software or maybe because of some other issues? Im no way near 1Mh/m atm...

 

With only 1 GPU you should mine on a pool. Solomining and propriete software doesn't deliver good results. I recommend nanopool using Claymore 9.5 mining software. You can mine 2 coins parallel (i.e. SIA and ETC) and you should get at least 28-29 Mh/s on ETH and about 300 Mh/s on SIA. Download official SIA Wallet and make some extra money to compensate electricity. :-) without influencing Hashrate of ETH. I still have a Notebook with a GTX 1060 6GB. It delivers about 20 MH/s on ETH.
You should use MSI Afterburner to OC your GPU. Have a look to my settings https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19773784

Hi GTX 1070 miners,

here are my 5 cent concerning MH/s rates for my mining rigs.
I bought 12 ASUS GTX Strix OC 8GB and built 2 rigs. 10 Cards have Micron RAM, 2 have Samsung. In Asus forum many people were pissed of the Micron RAM because it obviously has worse specifications concerning overclocking than Samsung has.
I can state this. In spite of this issue i investigated optimal settings for overclocking to get a Hashrate of about 180 MH/s for each mining rig. What can i say: It worked for me - also with Micron RAM.
Here are my settings with MSI Afterburner (great tool).

Power Limit = 70%
Core Clock = +25%
Mem Clock = +650 (worked stable for all Micron Cards for more than 24h) For a couple of hours i pushed them up to +700. This also worked for a while but at the end this was too risky while sleeping. Won't get any BSOD result when i wake up in the morning.
Both rigs pull 1550 W out of the wall (Kill-A-Meter)

I do Dual Mining with Claymore 9.5 (ETH + SIA) on nanopool. The Micron GPUs deliver 29.7 to 30.1 Mhs

Screenshot: http://www.winkler-fotodesign.de/banner/asus-gtx-micron.jpg

On the other hand there are 2 GPU's with Samsung RAM in my second rig. The other 4 have Micron. Thanks to Afterburner you are able to OC each single GPU. The Microns are overclocked with the settings above. The 2 Samsung GPUs can be pushed up to +800 which leads into 9.216 Mhz. (Afterburner divides this by 2).

Screenshot: http://www.winkler-fotodesign.de/banner/asus-gtx-samsung.jpg

I think these results are not that bad, compared to AMD 480's or 580's.
Happy mining
Bodyworks

Hello guys,

I got a MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X.
GPU Clock = 1582 (stock)
Mem Clock = 4552 (+750Mhz clock).
Windows 10 build 15063.413
Miner = Claymore 9.5 ETH+SIA
Hash/s ETH = 30
Hash/s SIA = 300
Nvidia = 382.52
Power = 75% (~120W)
Pool = nanopool.

I can barely hit the 30Mh/s with the memory OCd with + 750Mhz.

Any ideea what could be the "problem? ?

http://imgur.com/a/vay1z

Thank you.

low mining rate is majorly because of windows update.latest update you need is with windows update assistant. and second major update is the latest windows built. or else check on Windows 10 update. once done u shud b good to go.

still if issues download claymore 9.5. also copy cl. dll files. still facing issues mail me on [email protected]

this is my first day of mining from 3 years (earlier I mined btc by 5870 and ltc by r9 2xx)

today I built simple miner on 2x gtx1070 FE

stock win10
stock drivers

ethminer 0.9.41-genoil1.16

I not even put my wallet in this - just unpack and start ethermine-stratum-CUDA.exe

stock speed 42-45mhash

after tweaking (-200 core 4450 mem) i got 57-59mhash stable

Hey Jackson, you mentioned "Just found this video. Yes, increasing memory clock gives me quite some more MH/s". My first question is how many MH/s increase did you get.

I'm really interested in what you tweaked, and what you got!

Maybe this is also an interesting read? https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/7780/gtx1070-linux-installation-and-mining-clue-goodbye-amd-welcome-nvidia-for-miners/p1

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single card: +285 & +1800 is the max, single card pushes you to 37.19MH/s with Cuda or 32,66MH/s with OpenCL
multi card: + 275 & + 1775 is the max, but not stable (read: 6 hourely crashes) and pushes 4MH/s per card
multi card: +200 & + 1600 semi stable, needs more testing but this might be better and pushes another 3MH/s per card
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Did you already test these settings?

I hope this helped and keep us up to date

I tweaked my GTX 1070 like this, as suggested by user "Shoo" in a comment here: http://wccftech.com/ethereum-mining-gpu-performance-roundup/

70 % Power
-200 MHz GPU clock
4450 Mhz memory clock
Fan: 55-65 % (depending on temp)

Result are nearly as good as before with less power consumption. I will measure off the wall wattage soon and post it here.

Just found this video. Yes, increasing memory clock gives me quite some more MH/s. I don't know the wattage for MH/s trade-off, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6RdF7q5mo

Hi,

I'm using Ethminer with GTX 1070 @25-26 MH/s.

I also expected around 29MH/s. Maybe there is a way to tweak the card?

I'm also thinking about getting a RX 580, which seems to have around 31MH/s... but has higher power consumption.

Does anyone have experience with both cards maybe and can share their experience here ?

Thanks for thr extensive write-up, it helps newbies like me a lot!
Any luck on tuning your card(s) to get over the 30 number?

Well, apparently not...  They are still holding my funds and I cannot withdraw them yet:

http://www.pittinaro.com/images/MinerGate_Pool-Unable_to_Withdraw_Funds_06-02-2017.jpg

It isn't just me though.  They have posted an alert at the top of their website that says:


However, it has already been at least three days (maybe longer that that, I'm not sure how long this has been an issue, I just know I have been trying since Friday with no luck...), so I don't know how long their idea of fixing something "As Soon As Possible" is, but this is pretty ridiculous I think.  I have also seen a lot of people complaining about this in their forums and in the chat window on their main webpage.  Hopefully they lose a lot of customers because of this (and their crappy software and high fees).  Hopefully no one will want to keep mining for a pool that holds their mining rewards and they can't withdraw their funds from.

Well, I know I just started mining tonight a little while ago, so I don't have a ton of data to come up with a decent average hashrate yet, but so far the highest numbers I have been seeing in the Command-Line window that ETHMiner is running in are 25.15MH/s and 26.20MH/s.  (In fact, it seems to alternate back and forth between these two numbers for the most part...)  See the screenshot below:

http://www.pittinaro.com/images/ETHMiner_Running-GeForce-1070_06-03-2017_01.jpg

This isn't bad by any means, especially compared with what I was getting before, but it isn't averaging around 30-32MH/s like Zac said that I should be getting in his post above.  Does anyone know of how I can tweak the output from ETHMiner to try to increase my hashrate from my Video Card?  Can I do any overclocking of my Video Card with ETHMiner and if so how?



Thanks!  I'm glad that I got it working quickly and easily as well!  Like I said, I don't know what I was expecting, but it turned out to be MUCH easier than I was thinking to get this working tonight!
$4.00-$4.50 per day isn't bad for one Video Card, I guess, but I'd like MORE, obviously!  lol...  If I can tweak ETHMiner somehow to give me a better hashrate and/or overclock my Video Card to try to boost my hashrate, I'm hoping that I can improve that estimate as well...

It is still a good time to be a miner, I will say, but I still feel that I am getting started WAY TOO LATE.  The BEST time to have been an Ethereum miner was probably a year or two ago, when it first launched.  That is where all of the BIG money was made on Ethereum, I have a feeling...  Now is the time when all of us NooBz start getting into it because the price went way up and people have just started hearing about it now and want to get in on the Gold Rush now, even though a lot of the Gold has already been mined...

I'm glad to see that you got it working for you. You can probably make a good $4.00-4.50 per day at that hashrate with current price of Ethereum. It's a good time to be a miner right now indeed.

Well...  Unfortunately, as much as I hate to admit it, I honestly have to say that...

                              I'M A DUMBASS!!

There, I said it...  

I just feel like such an idiot for procrastinating for as long as I did before ditching that stupid MinerGate and using some mining software that actually WORKS!  I think part of it was I was just psyching myself out earlier in the week thinking that it was going to be this long, involved process installing and setting up another miner software package on my computer and getting it to work with a new mining pool.  But it just...  wasn't!  It was actually so much easier to download and run the command-line miner than MinerGate, it is kind of embarrassing.

Well anyways, moving on then...


So, what did I end up doing then you may ask?  So, I basically flipped a coin and it came up heads, so I went with Alpereum for a mining pool.  (0.0% Pool Fees was actually pretty attractive too, I have to admit...)  They are an anonymous mining pool too, so there was no account to create before I could start mining there or anything.  (You just use your wallet address you are going to use to receive your payouts as your "account name" when you configure the miner software to point at the pool.)

Then the next step was to pick the miner software to use.  Again, I kind of flipped a coin on this one and it came up tails this time, so I went with the Genoil ETHMiner.  (The Alpereum Pool even has a link to their own "flavor" of the Genoil ETHMiner right in their Help Center.)  Once I downloaded the ZIP file, there was nothing to even install.  It is just an EXEcutable with a few .DLL libraries and that's it.  I mean it was just stupid how easy it was to get running.  I just created a .BAT file in the directory to call ethminer.exe with the correct options to get it to mine to the Alpereum Pool and that was it - I'm up and mining!  

For reference, here is the command line statement I used to call ETHMiner:

So far, it seems that I am getting around 25-26MH/s on average with ETHMiner now...    That's MUCH better than the meager 8.87MH/s I was getting from stupid MinerGate!  Now I will have to see what kind of payouts I can get with that hashrate from the Alpereum Pool...  Hopefully better than only $6 for an entire week of mining!  lol...



So, MinerGate is now officially uninstalled and permanently deleted from my computer and I'm not looking back!  I just hope they will let me transfer my paltry 0.03004086 ETH to my other wallet and then close my account down with them.


Thanks again to everyone for their help in pointing me in the right direction!

Well, thank you all for the feedback, help, and guidance so far! ...


Thanks, will do!



Well, it is not so much that I don't know what I am doing (even though I don't REALLY know what I am doing just yet, lol...), it is just that I haven't quite found the best solution to mine Ethereum with using the setup that I have.  This isn't my first time mining in general or anything...  I have been mining BitCoin since 2013 and I have gone through quite a few different miners since then.  I only wish that I had gotten into mining Ethereum years ago when it was $11-$12 before the price really skyrocketed recently...  I would be all set now if I had!  lol...  However, I was still actively working on my BitCoin mining farm trying to get the most out of that and adding new miners, etc...  I think I am finally at the point where I can go no further with my BitCoin mining farm (for now anyways), so that is why I am now turning my attention to Ethereum.

However, unlike BitCoin mining currently, it seems that it is a bit trickier and more time consuming trying to get setup to mine Ethereum.  It's not just like go out and buy a miner, plug it in, configure it to point at your mining pool, and let it run to start earning BitCoins.  There is a little bit more to it than that in order to mine Ethereum and that is what I am trying to figure out now.  I know it may be relatively simple to those of you who have already done it and have been mining Ethereum for years, but when you don't know exactly what to do, it can be confusing to try to figure it out on your own, especially since there is not just one single way to do it and no one way is really the "right way" to do it or anything...

I did look into NiceHash, but I think I will stay away from that as I am already mining BitCoin currently with six AntMiner S9's and one AntMiner S7 in my basement (approximately 87-88TH/s average on the pool right now...).  However, it is an interesting business model, allowing people to rent out their mining equipment (whether they are ASICs, GPUs, or CPUs) to get a steady income of BitCoins.  However, I don't really understand why anyone would do that when you can just mine the currencies yourself with the mining hardware you have and keep all the earnings for yourself?  (Unless for some reason there are some people out there who either don't want to or can't figure out how to mine themselves who are willing to pay more for the hashrate than you can earn from it if you used it to mine with yourself?  But if that is the case, that seems overly opportunistic to take advantage of people like that who don't know any better...)

About the only thing interesting about Nicehash though is that they have their own mining software as well, called Excavator.  I have no idea if it is more optimized than the crappy MinerGate software and will work better or not?  I haven't played around with it either to see if you can use their software to mine on a different pool with so you can keep the Ethereum that you have mined.  With the Ethereum price having gone up as high as it has (and I'm thinking it will continue to go up more in the future), I really want to mine ETH to try to add to my position as much as possible before the next major price increase.  (I already cashed out all the BitCoin I had around the end of April and bought Ethereum with it when the price was around $76-$78.  I ended up buying 30 ETH at the time for about 1.73 BTC.  (You can do the math on it to figure out how much I made off of that purchase in about a month...  )



Thanks a lot for that explanation as well, Zac!  That does make a lot of sense and I will definitely be moving away from MinerGate as soon as I can.  I haven't researched Alpereum's Pool yet, but it sounds very promising.  Another pool I was contemplating using is Nanopool.  I also saw that the AntPool has recently started offering Ethereum, LiteCoin, and ZCash mining on their pool as well, but apparently no one is using it for mining much else other than BitCoin right now.

As far as MinerGate goes though, I thought that they only have a 1% PPLNS fee (or a 1.5% PPS fee) on their pool?  However, like you said, they do end up sending all of your mining revenue to their own wallet, which you then have to withdraw your funds from to put it into your wallet so that you can use it (or sell it or whatever you plan to do with it...).  So, I'm not sure if that is where you came up with the 2% fee for MinerGate that you stated above?  Obviously the lower the fees the better.  It does seem sneaky though too that MinerGate holds onto all your mining revenue in their wallet instead of sending it to your wallet as you mine like just about every other pool on the planet does.  It definitely seems that they are trying to target beginners who are just getting into mining and may not have their own wallet setup yet.  (Plus they advertise their site everywhere it seems as it came up very quickly and repeatedly when you start searching for Ethereum Mining Pools...)

I am still debating between Genoil's ETHMiner and Claymore's Miner right now to setup on my computer...  I'm not really sure if either one is better optimized for nVidia graphics cards than the other or not?  Still, it sounds like anything will be a major improvement over MinerGate anyways, so I better just pick one and go for it!  I will update once I have set something up and started mining on a different pool to let you know how I made out.  (I have just been very busy this week and have been kind of lazy by the time I get home from work and I don't feel like messing around with installing and configuring mining software until midnight...)




BTW - So far trying to mine Ethereum for almost 5 days on MinerGate with my GeForce GTX 1070 card only averaging about 8.87MH/s, I have only mined a total of 0.02914652 ETH (worth about $6.46).     I figure I should be getting more than that out of it!  

If you're not quite sure of what you are doing just yet and don't mind being paid in Bitcoins, you should use NiceHash. They are somewhat similar to MinerGate, but allot better and offer way more options for GPU mining. Very easy to use too. www.nicehash.com --- try them out for abit and later if you learn more about how to set things up yourself you can try mining directly to a more traditional pool if you like.

Minergate sucks, they steal hashrate. Use any comandline miners like Claymore.

Thank me later

Yes, thank you very much for the help, tdipd!  I will definitely look into other options as far as miner software goes.  So, is this Genoil basically the latest stable build of ETHMiner then?  (Otherwise it looks like the "original" ETHMiner cannot be used anymore to mine with, at least from what I read here: https://github.com/ethereum/webthree-umbrella/releases  and here:  https://github.com/ethereum/cpp-ethereum.)

It is too bad that MinerGate's own software sucks to mine with because it looked to have a nice interface and it would be great if it actually worked worth a damn!  lol...  Perhaps it works better with Radeon cards, but it just plain sucks with nVidia cards!  Other than their software, how is MinerGate as a Pool in general?  Are their payouts pretty good?  I have heard some complaints from others on these forums (not necessarily about MinerGate in particular) that one pool may report better hashrates mining on it than another and/or people have noticed that their mining revenues are higher for the same hashrate on one pool over another, etc...  Just wondering if it is worth sticking with MinerGate to mine Ethereum on once I am running better mining software or if I should switch to a different pool?

Thank you all for the help so far.  I will look into installing Genoil (or possibly another mining software) on my computer as soon as possible to see if that makes any difference in my mining hashrate with my Video Card.  I will let you know how I make out.


          -Thanks!





(Actually, you did quite well.  I probably would not have even known that English wasn't your native language unless you mentioned it as I have seen plenty of native English speakers butcher the language pretty badly, lol!  It definitely isn't an easy language to master.  I made some grammatical edits to your original post when I quoted you too so you can see how I changed it to make it read a bit better.  Otherwise, it was pretty good!)