Topic: LoyceV's (Personal) Trust Flag viewer [daily updates] (NOW IN DESCENDING ORDER) (Read 3902 times)

I stopped doing automated updates years ago, and only run it manually once in a while. This just means I hadn't thought about it for a while. I'm running a full re-check of all Flags now. It should be done in about 8 hours. Let me know if anything fails.

Hello LoyceV, Sorry for bumping this topic after a long time. The last snapshot for the Trust flag viewer was back on 2024-05-27. Does this mean you stopped taking snapshots, or perhaps it's some glitch you might not be aware of?

Good point, I can keep weekly snapshots. But for now, it's still not working correctly, and I haven't had the time to figure it out exactly.

I think your question has been answered through a lack of an answer - I don't feel that people place that great an importance on who did what, when to the minute.  The weekly DT update is a good example of how an update each week is sufficient.  The only people who would need such information on a minute by minute basis are those either trying to garner support for or against a fresh flag.

The novelty wears off after a while.

My Trust Flag viewer is currently (a bit) broken, it doesn't update all Flags anymore. I need some time to fix this.
Considering the large number (around 2000) of Flags, I'll also stop scraping all Flags daily, and instead scrape the older Flags less often.

I'll update here when it works properly again.

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Question: should I keep all older records? I now have hundreds of daily snapshots, so you can see who supported which Flag when. Does anyone even use that, or can I just keep at most monthly snapshots?

Once in a while something fails scraping: if the file size is out of order, just skip that one. I only leave them in for the navigation to keep working (and never bothered to build in a check).

Improvement:

There you go, have it your way:

Allow me to use this opportunity to promote Add comments to Flags on LoyceV's Trust Flag viewer. Example:
The comments should be under the Flags, but I messed up the BBCode when I changed the order. This should be fixed in the next version.

Make sense 😉

I don't mind scrolling down, but the page gets slower to load now.

I stand on my initial thought which is descending order. I wonder what took a too long to have this in mind for you. 😉

By now the list is a lot longer with 1250+ Flags. I need votes on this: should I reverse the order and start with the latest Flag?

I don't think the current hosting is slower. However, I do notice downloads start "slow", then gain speed a bit later. As if the servers are still negotiating how fast their connection is:

I did notice directories with 10,000 files load a bit slower, maybe because I switched from Nginx to Apache. I could install Nginx, but I'm still not even done with restoring all services.

I could be wrong but early today when I imported data from loyce.club, I felt the speed is lower than before. Is it exactly what happened with your club?

Due to server changes, the banned-status in my Trust Flag viewer wasn't working in the last few updates. It'll be fixed in the next update.

At the risk of talking to myself a bit:
I made this:

Thanks for the clarification...


Neither do I - in part the reason not to support the flag.

When I wrote about Flags that don't have a valid Reference link, I meant "not valid" from a webbrowser's perspective: The link doesn't exist (anymore).
The description on my Trust Flag viewer is better: "Reference topic does not exist".

Many Flags have a Reference link with invalid content, but I can't highlight those without doing it manually.

I have suggested before that I can allow users to add comments to my Trust Flag viewer, but haven't had any feedback to this.

I don't really get why LFC_Bitcoin uses my topic on scammer BetKing.io as a reference topic for a Flag on game-protect.

I've referenced in these two threads that the reference threads were either not created by the flag creator, or, do not reference to the person who is the topic of the flag (hence are not valid reference threads)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/100-of-quicksellers-flags-are-false-5165940

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lauda-creating-flags-against-random-people-linked-to-threads-not-related-5161689 <-- this thread needs updating as the person involved has recommenced creating flags against users, however the flag recipient usually aren't the subject of the thread in most cases.

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It's quite likely other flags have non valid reference links.

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*edit*

Have just recalled this flag is a duplicate of a previous (still active) flag - essentially double dipping / double jeopardy...  The creator of the second flag has modified their OP that many times (and even references the first flag) bullying anyone [1] [2] who opposes the flag they created.

I've changed the wording: instead of "No such flag", my Trust Flag viewer now shows "This Flag has been deleted by the Bitcointalk forum administration".

Currently:

Quote continued:

Update: I'm now highlighting all Flags that don't have a valid Reference link:

To reduce scraping, I won't re-check all Reference topics each day, so there it could take a while to update after a Reference topic gets trashed.

These Flags are currenly involved:
Reference topic does not exist:

Yes, mate this is much better in my opinion, a lot easier to navigate.

Is not hard even to get the profile's users links to the forum clicking on the end of the 1st line.

At the risk of talking to myself: Done!

All Personal Trust Flag viewers now only link to the profile on Bitcointalk from the username on top, all other usernames point to that user's Personal Trust Flag viewer.
coinlocket$: is this how you envisioned it?

See http://loyce.club/trust/flags/101.html for the latest version.

Sample:

Adding a link to a personal page was intentional. It makes sense to keep all links within my Flag viewer, so you can easily navigate to other users' Flags.

LoyceV fix this!

Can I ask one thing?

Are the hyperlinks works as intended? Let me explain

If I click on a name here http://loyce.club/trust/flags/99.html like Theymos http://loyce.club/trust/flags/personal/35.html

I will get the flag user web page on your website BUT if I click on the following links from that page I will get the link to bitcointalk.

Isn't may be better to get links to your website here too? (we have the "see why" to get a link to bitcointalk.org)

No, all it needs it patience
I've prioritized uploading the Trust Flag viewer, and I'm updating it now.

Update: Daily updates should be automated again, let me know if something goes wrong.

I can help?

Working on it

404's on the flag pages///

The last update failed half way. I can't check my VPS from here, but the next update will probably be okay again.

I got myself a brand new VPS, and my Trust Flag viewer is the first part of my useful data on Bitcointalk running from there instead of my laptop. I'll run a daily cronjob at 3:18 AM (Amsterdam time). With close to 500 flags, it should take about 15 minutes to update.
I'm still uploading the data to my "old" http://loyce.club/trust/flags/ host. I want to see how the VPS performs before I change that.

If anything doesn't work, please post here

Correct. I really don't need much in terms of data, storage or CPU power, I just have a lot of files. All I need is a server that just stays online.

I'm running low on disk space already though, when I got this hosting I didn't expect to ever reach 10 GB of Bitcointalk-related files. When I have time, I'll play around with a VPS to gain experience.

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I'll stop going off-topic in my own topic now

I had used them to host my Full node in the past without any major issues or downtime that I can recall. I would imagine your website would be several orders of magnitude less resource intensive.

You may or may not be able to find a host cheaper than the couple dollars per month they charge for what you would likely need however I don’t think those savings would have a material impact on the financial performance of your project.

If PP is Paypal: I don't use that for anything crypto-related.

I've seen many VPS offers at lower price. I'm just not sure how reliable those are.

RamNode.

I can help you with the BTC ... Do you take PP?

Right after I sent an email to my webhost, it works again

The server is under high load and high disk usage though. Any recommendations for a cheap, reliable webhost that accepts Bitcoin?

It seems like his entire website is off. Probably just a small technical issue.

http://loyce.club/

Just a quick heads-up, your Flag page is offline...

TODO:
Remove [/size] from BBCode. Example:

Thanks, it was a dumb mistake. Reading the HTML turns out to be more annoying than I thought. Still not fixed, this is for another time.

This topic posted by bones261 made me speed up Personal Flag lists:

Appears to be happening when only DT members support a flag. E.g. #112.

Also see #105 for an example of the opposite: a larger font used for a non-DT member.

Vod's BPIP.org shows bans on the profile page (example). If a banned user starts posting again, it marks it as unbanned.
And there's my ban list, which is easiest for automated processing (but doesn't update unbans yet).

I'm not sure how to tell if an account is banned or not. I may not have flagged some accounts had I known they were banned. (Then again banned accounts have had their bans lifted, so maybe not).

Update: I've just added this.

Done! See http://loyce.club/trust/flags/15.html
Note that my List of banned users doesn't update unbanned users yet. This is still on my list to fix.
Also note that I only show the banned-status on flagged accounts, not for accusing or supporting/opposing users.

Sample:
Unless there is a very strong demand for this, I won't change it. I don't think it matters much.

I've added Flag Types for all Flags, and color codings to flags with sufficient support. I think I got them all correctly, let me know if something's wrong. Type 2 uses the same colors as type 3, but has a slightly different text.
See: http://loyce.club/trust/flags/10.html

I haven't added color coding to the BBCode yet.

This is on my list, thanks

It's a known bug, I need more time Fixed!

Has anyone mentioned that #36 "Opposed By" looks funny?



Throws you a few "random" links -
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=%3Cb%3EExpired.%3C/b%3E
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nphyx-36
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nphyx-36

Side-Note: Any plan to implement statistics?



Ahh :


This is why we read the thread, kids!

Can you add red color for flags 2/3?

Great! Here's an update: http://loyce.club/trust/flags/5.html
Archived in case it goes offline again.

Sample:

Seems to be working fine right now 



http://loyce.club/trust/flags/

This is the longest downtime I've had on this host so far. I've sent them a support ticket.
Meanwhile, I'm looking for another host.

The connection is timing out for me at the moment. 

LoyceV can you do something about "show all" on trust feedback, it is impossible for me to navigate on my sent feedback with the new page's division

They expire after 3 or 10 years after the incident (based on the type of the flag).


This specific test flag's "incident date" is May 2016.

So, 3 years after the incident (May 2019 in this case) the flag would have expired.

It's this bug:

I'm not sure, maybe it happens when the creator clicked "Delete opinion"? Others can still Support or Oppose the Flag though.
See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=36

Maybe later (much later) I did this for my Trust list viewer, but it means I have to update all older pages each time. And with at least daily updates, it's going to be a very long list.
I'm not much into User Interfaces, and more into just dumping all data

Yep, I thought that would be the reason. Maybe an extended pagination could do the job. Something like this:

<< prev 1 [ 2 ] 3 4 5 6 next >>

But thanks again for the development of this tool! This is just a suggestion / future improvement.

Expired?

What causes a flag to expire?

It's supposed to be like this, so you don't have to go through dozens of pages to get to the latest one once there are more files.

Great tool as always. Thanks LoyceV 
Can you please change 1.html to index.html in order to directly access Trust Flag viewer 1st page when we visit loyce.club/trust/flags/?

Thanks!

Thanks, I haven't implemented (or even seen!) all possible states. This Flag is Expired, which apparently breaks stuff. I'll add it to my list.

Something strange going on with line 36 in the "opposed by" section giving links..
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nphyx-36
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nphyx-36

Cool tool..

This is great. I forgot which flags I voted and was wondering if I did any wrongdoings with them. Great tool to track the latest situation.

Thanks, now everything is working smoothly  .

Everything works. Thanks.

Nice work, that didn't take long as long as expected then  Very useful to have a list of active flags to support and oppose.
I was wondering if the order is chronological or otherwise? Ie will new flags appear at top or bottom of list?

Yes nice feat. and thanks for the List , makes it a bit easyer to get some Overlook and Information of all flags .

Great work as usual Loyce, thanks.

In addition to a descending order, I think it would also be useful to list the name of the accused first, rather than the name of the accuser. When looking through the (upcoming) categories of type 2 and type 3 flags, I'd be most interested in who has recently had a new red type flag on them, as opposed to who was leaving them.

I've fixed most of the bugs, it should be okay to use now. The "next" button links to a 404 error when you're on the last page.

I'll think about it when the list gets much longer.

A descending order will be nice. That way we can start looking from the latest flag. Imagine having thousands of flags, in the current order the visitor will need to scroll down all the way to the bottom.

Thanks for the project.

It works again. It has too much down time, I need another host.

The page is not loaded 

Good lord where did they all come from? So many already No rest for the wicked now.
As ever with these things, thank you so much, LoyceV.

I don't think I supported that flag or maybe I did but I don't remember (let me check again).
I can see only the number 57 & 48 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594) that are currently active.

Earlier today:

With the unexpected Flag drama, I didn't want to wait. This is just a quick job, and I have to get up early, so I'll improve it later.

Trust Flag viewer
See loyce.club/trust/flags/ and click the latest version.
Use CTRL-F to find the usernames.

New: (Support | Oppose)
Because of Flag spammers, I've added quick links to (Support | Oppose) Flags.

New: Descending order
Starting January 22, 2020, my Trust Flag viewer is now in descending order (newest Flags first).

New: Add comments to Trust Flags
You can now add comments to my Trust Flag viewer, see Post here to add comments to LoyceV's Trust Flag viewer.

New: Highlightning non-existent Reference topics
I've added a bold red "Reference topic does not exist" warning to Flags without a valid Reference link. Even if those Flags are justified, they shouldn't be supported. But you can create a new topic in Reputation or Scam Accusations to create a correct Flag.
Don't use a scammer's own topic as Reference link, if the topic gets removed, the Reference is gone.

New: BBCode
I've added a link with BBCode to the latest version. This makes it very easy to list Flags on the forum.

Personal Trust Flag viewer
Click any username to see all Flags created/supported/opposed by that user or created against that user. This page is updated daily, I don't keep old records.

Updates
I'll do daily updates (sometimes more often), and keep old records.

Disclaimer
I'm don't know all possible text-formats yet, so a new Flag type might not scrape properly.

Bugs
I fixed most of the bugs, if you find more, let me know
If it says "Loyce Fix This", something went wrong

To do
Use smaller font when only non-DT-members responded. >> I think this is fixed.
New bug: sometimes the smaller font is used for DT-members too.

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