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jr. member
Activity: 298
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September 30, 2020, 12:49:34 PM
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I will bookmark your website as I can surely use it in the future as I am planning to play in luckybit. I have no problem with the design but the
background is kinda annoying as I am getting dizzy upon looking at it but anyways your website is really helpful.
legendary
Activity: 3668
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So, was a complex process where we had to make some crypto steps, and this is not fo all.

Indeed, sha, string, hex, bin... this is not a big deal for some and difficult stuff for others.
And even those who would know how to do it may not check if it's not automated. Your site fixes that  Wink
I'll also complain, though, about the moving background....
legendary
Activity: 3332
Merit: 3116
Great design famososMuertos, i love it  Grin

@NeuroticFish This is why users have to understand how to verify their bets. And i think more than the 50% get stuck in the step 'Now hash the string with sha256'... Encryption is not easy for all. Let's take the example of luckybit:

1.-Make a string with 3 inputs, and do a sha256 from that string.
2.-take the last 4 digits and change them from Hex to Bin
3.-Each 0 and 1 represent a move to the right or left.

So, was a complex process where we had to make some crypto steps, and this is not fo all.
legendary
Activity: 3668
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Although it's possible to check your bets within the site, I'm wondering why the site doesn't make a more accessible and easy interface to use, like this.
that will be an extra work if they do that  and they also follow what all gambling sites do ( having a single verifier) . A trusted site isn't enough? when we loose why not accept it  .

Even more, if the check is done by the casino, some voices may tell that both (the website and the verifier) are rigged.
A 3rd party site for verifying is also imho the best approach.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 2995
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I think it is not a question of whether we verify the bet or not, the point here is that there are people who make an effort of their own and allow us to trust a certain betting site, thanks to a third party.
As in this case, it is certainly fair to say that thanks to this gesture, confidence surely grows.

This work done by @seoincorporation is in itself a certificate that endorses Luckybit not only with words
if not with facts.

The usefulness here is that casinos should ask for these external audits. And if it is made by a community player / user, it is better.

Ah! again someone answers; They all offer verification for you to do. Okay.

But let's add:

Wink
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1422
Each site uses their own ways to make the bets provably fair, Is not a normalized process, but the math behind each method proves the site is fair by his math.

I already read that some users would like this service for other sites, but what sites would you like to verify, if you give me a least at least i can take a look at their provably fair.
This are the casino's i'm currently using
- duckdice (doesn't know how to verify their flash bet)
- yolodice
- fortunejack

I would highly appreciate it. Thanks seoincorporation!

Ok, if i have some time soon i will take a look at their provably fair engines, but i can't promise it, is just one of those weeks with a lot of work to do.

I have seen some flash slots in the past and for me was impossible to verify the bets, i contacted support and they say their games provider has a gambling licence. But not prove at all of sistem for users to prove their bets.

seoincorporation, my take is that people often misunderstand what provably fair is about. Only some games which are provably fair can see their bets verified. For those other games (i.e. flash bets, 3d slots...) one can only trust the game provider. So my suggestion is to play only where you have 100% provably fair games. This way, at least, they can't cheat on you.
legendary
Activity: 3332
Merit: 3116
Each site uses their own ways to make the bets provably fair, Is not a normalized process, but the math behind each method proves the site is fair by his math.

I already read that some users would like this service for other sites, but what sites would you like to verify, if you give me a least at least i can take a look at their provably fair.
This are the casino's i'm currently using
- duckdice (doesn't know how to verify their flash bet)
- yolodice
- fortunejack

I would highly appreciate it. Thanks seoincorporation!

Ok, if i have some time soon i will take a look at their provably fair engines, but i can't promise it, is just one of those weeks with a lot of work to do.

I have seen some flash slots in the past and for me was impossible to verify the bets, i contacted support and they say their games provider has a gambling licence. But not prove at all of sistem for users to prove their bets.
hero member
Activity: 1722
Merit: 801
- duckdice (doesn't know how to verify their flash bet)
Duckdice.io has scam accusations against them.
Alt of DuckDice.io which was tagged for scam
In March this year, yahoo decided to remove neg feedback on Duckdice.io Duckdice.io feedback removal

There are some info I can give you for references.
hero member
Activity: 965
Merit: 515
Each site uses their own ways to make the bets provably fair, Is not a normalized process, but the math behind each method proves the site is fair by his math.

I already read that some users would like this service for other sites, but what sites would you like to verify, if you give me a least at least i can take a look at their provably fair.
This are the casino's i'm currently using
- duckdice (doesn't know how to verify their flash bet)
- yolodice
- fortunejack

I would highly appreciate it. Thanks seoincorporation!
legendary
Activity: 3332
Merit: 3116
I am newbie in regards with this kind of matter but do different casino uses different hashed? is the website only applicable to verify luckybit bets? I checked the site and it's good I hope you would offer as well a verifier for other casino so we would be able to know if they are fair or not.
Each site uses their own ways to make the bets provably fair, Is not a normalized process, but the math behind each method proves the site is fair by his math.

I already read that some users would like this service for other sites, but what sites would you like to verify, if you give me a least at least i can take a look at their provably fair.

First of all congrats for the great job you did with your site, merit deserved.
What I really appreciate to have there , if is not too time consuming for you, is the possibility to filter bets outcome by multipliers to check , for example, how many edges or near to edges I'd have hit in that simulation.

To see how many edges you hit it's easy with the 'Ctrl + F' command...

For plinko, if you are verifying silver bets then search for *9999... That way you will know how many times you get it with the coincidences on the search.

For Dice, search 0.9999 that way you will know how many x9824 you get.
legendary
Activity: 3402
Merit: 1227
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First of all congrats for the great job you did with your site, merit deserved.
What I really appreciate to have there , if is not too time consuming for you, is the possibility to filter bets outcome by multipliers to check , for example, how many edges or near to edges I'd have hit in that simulation.
hero member
Activity: 965
Merit: 515
I am newbie in regards with this kind of matter but do different casino uses different hashed? is the website only applicable to verify luckybit bets? I checked the site and it's good I hope you would offer as well a verifier for other casino so we would be able to know if they are fair or not.
legendary
Activity: 3332
Merit: 3116
Although it's possible to check your bets within the site, I'm wondering why the site doesn't make a more accessible and easy interface to use, like this.
that will be an extra work if they do that  and they also follow what all gambling sites do ( having a single verifier) . A trusted site isn't enough? when we loose why not accept it  .
...

The bets browser on the site is really accessible. I wouldn't complain about it:

https://luckyb.it/bet_browser

But i used a different logic. While they list all our bets and let us verify one by one, i ask for the parameter and make a simulation... The logic we use to validate each bet is the same.

My code can verify bets that wasn't made on the site, you can choose random parameters and see how lucky was that seed. Is easy to make simulations of tons of bets to choose the best betting method.

So, this code has two functions, to verify bets and to make simulations.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1422
I would like to read some feedback about the proyect, i know lot of things could be better, but this is just the start. Enjoy it!
Amazing work man! Checking provably fair bets sometimes can be a pain in the ass but not with your tool! Well done, do other great tools if you can  Wink
full member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 118
Although it's possible to check your bets within the site, I'm wondering why the site doesn't make a more accessible and easy interface to use, like this.
that will be an extra work if they do that  and they also follow what all gambling sites do ( having a single verifier) . A trusted site isn't enough? when we loose why not accept it  .

we don't need to find another reason for our loose . this tool created by op is still useful for those sites that are still not yet fully trusted , no not luckybit .  I don't want luckybit fans to get angry with me , I know luckybit was been here for a while and it's already been favored by most gamblers .
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1121
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Excellent tool, congratulations for your work.
Although it's possible to check your bets within the site, I'm wondering why the site doesn't make a more accessible and easy interface to use, like this.
In any case, it's very appreciated to be able to check the results in a place that is independent of the site.

P.S. The matrix background was amazing Cool
sr. member
Activity: 1512
Merit: 316
Thanks, OP, for making it. I had registered on the site and did played their games. Though it was fun and, in the end, lost it which is sort of okay because finally they have to make money. But this sort of tool will help to check in case if I need to see were, they genuine or not, which they should be else their business may not run for long. This also ensure that they always remain fair.
hero member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 669
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I see that what you are trying to do here is for the common good. This is gesture that is really appreciated.
Although, it is true that users have access and can verify bet by themselves, so they must learn how to do so.
Nevertheless, your service is great help and you could also provide demos for those who are having hard time.
It is indeed. Well, op can do it when there is enough time to do it. Maybe some may not know how to verify the bets themselves and this verifier that op made could help them verifying bets and see if the site did not manipulate the bet system or cheat their gamblers.
hero member
Activity: 2870
Merit: 574
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Well, though it is helpful the problem is I don't have an account on Luckybit.
For Luckyb.it users this is good, they can verify their bet to determine the provably fair system on the gambling site. However, perhaps this more exciting and helpful a lot if you will create another one for all in gambling sites, seed verifier not just only for Luckyb.it gambling sites only. But, thank you for sharing this good idea.

It will be good if we have something like that an independent verifier for top gambling Crypto gambling sites in the industry, it will help both gamblers and the gambling sites, for gamblers for his suspicion and for gambling sites for their reputation.

This could just be a start and we will have more coming, thanks, and congrats for starting something like this.
Maybe we will see another independent verifier as what @seoincorporation did to help the gamblers verify their bets.
Maybe he will create another verifier site to verify the other gambling website.
If the gamblers can verify the bets, they will see if the gambling website will not try to cheat the gamblers or not, and for the gambling websites itself can prove to the public that they always give the best to their members.
Besides that, I think the recommended gambling site will have their reputation among the other gambling sites, so they can be the top of gambling websites that have provably fair.
Good jobs.
hero member
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Epic stuff op. Is there some kind of issue with the provably fair algorithm of Luckybit that you went to such great lengths to create an entire verifier just for this site op? I know that you can check whether each bet is fair or not directly on their site.

The ability to check whether multiple bets are fair or not through your verifier is certainly helpful and I like the name too.

If possible, as the other posters mentioned, try to develop similar verifiers for more popular sites as long as the sites themselves are fine with it. This would definitely boost the popularity of your verifiers.
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